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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 04:16 AM
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oil in spark plug???

how much to fix ,i think (pretty sure ) its the head gaskets .need quotes DAAAAMMMMMM!!!!!!!
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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Need more info, where exactly is the oil on the spark plug? How did you discover the problem? Did it through a code? Run ruff etc?

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Old Jul 19, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 04:09 AM
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Need more info, where exactly is the oil on the spark plug? How did you discover the problem? Did it through a code? Run ruff etc?

Smoky
only on the tip, i just checked the plugs, havent checked 4 code but i know theres one and it was sputtering while it was idleing not when i gave it some gas
now i just doesnt turn on.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 04:10 AM
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i need around 700$ to fix that's what some mechanics r telling me. saving up .
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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if its just around the top of the spark plug then its the spark plug tube seals.. they come with valve cover gaskets and should only cost maybee 150$ go change, or you can do it your self for like 35$. if the head gasket was gone you'd know. car would usually over heat, or have oil in the antifreeze or antifreeze in the oil making it look like chocolate milk. its just the tube seals.. once the cylinder fills up with oil it dicipates the spark making your car run like shit. heres a write up from another forum..

http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/te...ns/techsho.htm

i know its long but you will get all the info u need
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:10 AM
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if its just around the top of the spark plug then its the spark plug tube seals.. they come with valve cover gaskets and should only cost maybee 150$ go change, or you can do it your self for like 35$. if the head gasket was gone you'd know. car would usually over heat, or have oil in the antifreeze or antifreeze in the oil making it look like chocolate milk. its just the tube seals.. once the cylinder fills up with oil it dicipates the spark making your car run like shit. heres a write up from another forum..

http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/te...ns/techsho.htm

i know its long but you will get all the info u need


You can get the valve cover gasket and tube seals for like $22 at the auto store, it would take you about 20 mintutes to change the valve cover gasket and all spark plug tube gaskets, unless they are like melted to the valve cover, which happend to me on my old car. Then you have to use a torch to heat it and scrape it off.
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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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i changed my tube seals a few weeks ago..
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Old Jul 21, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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thanks for the info , but the oil is on the tip (where the spark is at) only there, not on the boot . what does that mean?how much$$$ to repair? thanks.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:48 AM
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Which engine and which cylinder is giving the problem? The head gasket diagnosis is looking a little suspect at this time. More info please. how did you discover the problem? If oil is on the plug tip a missfire could be the cause, or the indication. This is hard to trouble shoot on line but if you'll be patient maybe we can help.
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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if there is a combination of bad tube seals and an improperly torqued plug this will also happen..
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 03:28 PM
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[QUOTE=wilp99]if its just around the top of the spark plug then its the spark plug tube seals.. they come with valve cover gaskets and should only cost maybee 150$ go change, or you can do it your self for like 35$. if the head gasket was gone you'd know. car would usually over heat, or have oil in the antifreeze or antifreeze in the oil making it look like chocolate milk. its just the tube seals.. once the cylinder fills up with oil it dicipates the spark making your car run like shit. heres a write up from another forum..

http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/te...ns/techsho.htm

i know its long but you will get all the info u need

i want to do it by my self how. do i do it, what do i need. thank's
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Old Jul 26, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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It is probably just the valve cover/spark plug gaskets below the valve cover.

Shouldn't take more than an hour to change by yourself. Go pick up a valve cover gasket kit and some RTV sealant and go to town.
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by aaron1017
It is probably just the valve cover/spark plug gaskets below the valve cover.

Shouldn't take more than an hour to change by yourself. Go pick up a valve cover gasket kit and some RTV sealant and go to town.





what do i need ?(tools) and how do i go to town?
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Old Jul 27, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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do you have a 2.x or 3.0?
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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Old Jul 28, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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remove the spark plug wires, i think theres only like 5-6 screws that hold down the valve cover.. they should be 10mm bolts. just un screw them and pop off the top, disconnect the breather tube. then once the cover is off. remove the old valve cover gasket and tube seals. take a rag and clean out the track that the gasket was in. then get some gasket sealer (1.50$ at autozone) put alittle in the groove of the tube seals and vlave cover gasket, and put the new gasket in the track. the sealer will come out of the sides which is ok cause your gonna just wipe off the excess stuff. remember do not drop anything into the head with the valve cover off. then re-install valve cover being careful for the tube seals dont fall out when you turn it over. reinstall the breather tube and reinstall the nuts. dont gorilla torque them down cause you will strip them out. they only get like 8 lbs of torque. reinstall spark plug wires. start the car and check for leaks.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 04:39 AM
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thanks, ill see what happens 2morrow (sat)
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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sooo.. whats the beef..?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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couldn tdo anything i took off the cover looked around and found a little of some creamy oil? on the camshaft, what is that? and the battery had died and i recharged it ,now the turn signals dont work and when i put the hazard lights on theres a buzzing sound coming from the fuses next 2 the clutch whats going on ? still saving$
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couldn tdo anything i took off the cover looked around and found a little of some creamy oil? on the camshaft, what is that? and the battery had died and i recharged it ,now the turn signals dont work and when i put the hazard lights on theres a buzzing sound coming from the fuses next 2 the clutch whats going on ? still saving$
Sounds like your car's been possessed like Christine
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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check the dipsitck, and see if there is any rust on the dipstick itself.. creamy oil on the cam doesent def mean you have a blown head gasket. any kind of moisture in the valve cover will cause this.

the turn signal thing sounds like you have a bad connection from your battery or its got a dead cell.... how many miles do you have on the car?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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F22 motors have always had a problem with their tube seals, but.....the number one problem that i've been finding is the lower rocker arm seals. After time, these rubber seals turn extremely hard like plastic and start allowing oil into the tube cylinders. In order to get to these, you've got to remove the rocker arm assembly. If you take it to the dealership, they'll probably know what you're talking about.

I typically charge 3 hours of labor to replace lower rocker arm seals, tube seals, valve cover gasket, plugs, and wires. This also INCLUDES a valve adjustment, because anytime you remove the rocker arm assembly, the positions move, so this is absolutely needed.

I would definately not try and attempt to remove the rocker arm assembly by yourself, unless you actually know what you're doing.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:01 AM
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check the dipsitck, and see if there is any rust on the dipstick itself.. creamy oil on the cam doesent def mean you have a blown head gasket. any kind of moisture in the valve cover will cause this.

the turn signal thing sounds like you have a bad connection from your battery or its got a dead cell.... how many miles do you have on the car?


i got 119k . dead cell? i just recharged it.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:02 AM
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my car was kiking ass before all this.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:04 AM
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F22 motors have always had a problem with their tube seals, but.....the number one problem that i've been finding is the lower rocker arm seals. After time, these rubber seals turn extremely hard like plastic and start allowing oil into the tube cylinders. In order to get to these, you've got to remove the rocker arm assembly. If you take it to the dealership, they'll probably know what you're talking about.

I typically charge 3 hours of labor to replace lower rocker arm seals, tube seals, valve cover gasket, plugs, and wires. This also INCLUDES a valve adjustment, because anytime you remove the rocker arm assembly, the positions move, so this is absolutely needed.

I would definately not try and attempt to remove the rocker arm assembly by yourself, unless you actually know what you're doing.

how much does that run 4.. do u think its a blown head gasket?
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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cells in a battery can die.. say you have 8 cells, once the battery goes totally dead you may recharge it and it shows a good voltage, however thats assuming all the cells are good.. ity may show 12 volts and only have 200 cranking amps if you have a dead cell. compared to all 8 cells combinde having 5-600 cca's. if you have a dead cell you pretty much need a new battery. change that and youll be aiit. get yourself an optima red.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CLTECH
F22 motors have always had a problem with their tube seals, but.....the number one problem that i've been finding is the lower rocker arm seals. After time, these rubber seals turn extremely hard like plastic and start allowing oil into the tube cylinders. In order to get to these, you've got to remove the rocker arm assembly. If you take it to the dealership, they'll probably know what you're talking about.

I typically charge 3 hours of labor to replace lower rocker arm seals, tube seals, valve cover gasket, plugs, and wires. This also INCLUDES a valve adjustment, because anytime you remove the rocker arm assembly, the positions move, so this is absolutely needed.

I would definately not try and attempt to remove the rocker arm assembly by yourself, unless you actually know what you're doing.

are you talkin bout valve guide seals? i dont have much experience w/ these motors but ive never heard of a rocker arm seal. not callin u out but i want to expand my database of shit to know.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:02 PM
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i recharged my battery,now the check engine light is not on b4 it was, should i turn the car on i dont want to cause any more damage. oh and the car didnt start before cause of the chek engine light was on whats with the buzzing turn signals no light just buzzin???
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