The latest on Cocoa's 3.5CL
Originally Posted by ThinJim
I've got to comment on this. Leaded gas will not eat your valve seats. when the car world made the switch to unleaded gas in the mid 70's, most cars on the road at that time were made for leaded gas. the cars that were made for leaded gas had a problem with unleaded because of materials used in the valve seats. Lead acts as a lubricant on those vehicals. People had more problems running unleaded in cars that were made for leaded, not the other way around.
I've been running leaded fuel in my cl now for months with the occasional tank to attempt to wash away lead deposits that are left on the 02 sensors. I have not had one problem and the car does run better with leaded than unleaded, whether or not the unleaded is 100 octane or not. Your valve seats were ate up by some other reason.
If anything, the seat material on cars nowadays are superior to that of material in the leaded gas days as they are hards and withstand the heat from unleaded gasses.
There was a day when I'd go to a Sunoco and fill er up with 108 octane. They had a dial on the side of the pump and you turned it to the desired octane you wanted, anywhere from 90 octane and up.
Cheers and keep us posted on your ride, looking forward to seeing some numbers!
I've been running leaded fuel in my cl now for months with the occasional tank to attempt to wash away lead deposits that are left on the 02 sensors. I have not had one problem and the car does run better with leaded than unleaded, whether or not the unleaded is 100 octane or not. Your valve seats were ate up by some other reason.
If anything, the seat material on cars nowadays are superior to that of material in the leaded gas days as they are hards and withstand the heat from unleaded gasses.
There was a day when I'd go to a Sunoco and fill er up with 108 octane. They had a dial on the side of the pump and you turned it to the desired octane you wanted, anywhere from 90 octane and up.
Cheers and keep us posted on your ride, looking forward to seeing some numbers!
Mmmmmm......yea I did love the way the car ran with 110 leaded race gas. Never had a problem with it throughout every run that night. But as soon as I switched back to unleaded 91 octane 3 days later, my car gave out on me about 10 minutes later.
I always thought that leaded gas contained some metal compound that eats away the valve seats. I also thought that leaded gas ran a lot hotter than unleaded gas.
I have always tried researching the topic online, but always come up with biased information. I'm going to have to agree with you, untill I find hard evidence that leaded gas can cause for valve seats to be destroyed.
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From: ShitsBurgh
Originally Posted by $peed])emon
yo u should do a 5.8 L hemi CL......PIMP!
Then those hicks from the commercials will start chasing around CL's 
Originally Posted by Cocoa
How's your secret project coming along 
Making some progress. I removed the delay in the build by picking up my parts from the builder I unfortunatley decided to go with. I had been waiting since aug of 04 on this thing. He's doing nothing I can't do anyway after looking into it a bit.
Anyway, I had to send 4 pistons back to CP because the guy that had my parts had a flood and 4 of the pistons ended up corroded some, but CP gave them the thumbs up. I did have to send them back to be re-coated, now just waiting for them to arrive back to my doorstep and I'll start to mock up the motor. Which leads me to a question for you.
On one of your motors you have laying around, Do you have the complete parts for the front of the motor? I'm looking for cam gears, tensioner, crank gear, covers, old belt, the works. I need this for a measurement involving the crank I have. There is a possibility that the crank I have may not work, but need these parts to see.
Sorry for the slight highjack of this thread, let me know what you have and if you'd like to part with it or loan it to me for a while. thanks
Originally Posted by ThinJim
Making some progress. I removed the delay in the build by picking up my parts from the builder I unfortunatley decided to go with. I had been waiting since aug of 04 on this thing. He's doing nothing I can't do anyway after looking into it a bit.
Anyway, I had to send 4 pistons back to CP because the guy that had my parts had a flood and 4 of the pistons ended up corroded some, but CP gave them the thumbs up. I did have to send them back to be re-coated, now just waiting for them to arrive back to my doorstep and I'll start to mock up the motor. Which leads me to a question for you.
On one of your motors you have laying around, Do you have the complete parts for the front of the motor? I'm looking for cam gears, tensioner, crank gear, covers, old belt, the works. I need this for a measurement involving the crank I have. There is a possibility that the crank I have may not work, but need these parts to see.
Sorry for the slight highjack of this thread, let me know what you have and if you'd like to part with it or loan it to me for a while. thanks
Anyway, I had to send 4 pistons back to CP because the guy that had my parts had a flood and 4 of the pistons ended up corroded some, but CP gave them the thumbs up. I did have to send them back to be re-coated, now just waiting for them to arrive back to my doorstep and I'll start to mock up the motor. Which leads me to a question for you.
On one of your motors you have laying around, Do you have the complete parts for the front of the motor? I'm looking for cam gears, tensioner, crank gear, covers, old belt, the works. I need this for a measurement involving the crank I have. There is a possibility that the crank I have may not work, but need these parts to see.
Sorry for the slight highjack of this thread, let me know what you have and if you'd like to part with it or loan it to me for a while. thanks
Originally Posted by 5150crx
see you thursday
I stopped by and dropped off what you needed. It's on the driver seat. I called ahead of time, but couldn't get a hold of you. What time do you want to get started on it again? You think we can have her done before the 19th for the A-CL meet? I'm down to pull all nighters if you got the time.
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From: Accokeek, Maryland
Originally Posted by Cocoa
I stopped by and dropped off what you needed. It's on the driver seat. I called ahead of time, but couldn't get a hold of you. What time do you want to get started on it again? You think we can have her done before the 19th for the A-CL meet? I'm down to pull all nighters if you got the time.
Are you using the stock Cl-S 6 speed ecu? Sorry if I overlooked something in the thread about that.
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From: Coventry, RI
Originally Posted by 5150crx
sorry about the further delay...I was away to do some work with mtv news this last week... see you monday...and mon-night
Originally Posted by ghost_masterCL
jersey? your shits gonna get stolen man.
Originally Posted by 972xghost
possibly, more likely of a chance if he had a civic or integra. central and north jersey are really ghetto though, it all depends on what part u live in. south and western jersey ur fine.
northern nj isnt along the beach its along NYC, central and southern nj are along hte beach, monmouth county beachs are ghetto like asbury park, long branch etc, but anything ocean county and below are nice.
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From: Montreal
this si the greatest thread ever! since i got the car with the auto. tranny i have been talking about swaping...this has inspirred me! but i would really like to know how much! and how much is the projected total of the project?
let me know when Cocoa 
says "hello to my TLX".
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From: San Diego, Ca
Originally Posted by Cocoa
The day it's running, will be the same day I post 100 new races on the boards.
here go my few mods. hehe
to all jersey haters.
Just got back from the shop. I know, it's 4am and I just got home. Left the shop at 3am but damn freeway was closed so I was running around for an extra 30min looking for a way to get home. We'll be getting back on it today around 11am-noon. I'll keep you guys updated tomorrow night.
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From: NJ
Originally Posted by SupraManAG
NJ sucks balls. I had the impression that Seaside NJ was a cool place but if you look closely its full of rednecks. Its filthy.
1. its not seaside its SLEEZside
2. its not full of rednecks thats tomriver- totally different unfavorable crowd in seaside (dont have time for the flame war so wont go into detail)
3. time of day greatly effects experience
4. most importantly nj does not suck ballz. nj insurance rates do!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyways you stay away from the super trendy areas and then you'll have fun. if your in the seaside area you should really head over to point pleasant or belmar instead, however they are starting to become infiltrated as well. what you should really do is get a bunch of friends and hit up LBI or further south. much different crowd. one of the only states that you can do pretty much anything within 1.5hr drive.
southern jersey is almost the equivalent of the US south. northern and central jersey is where the majority of the real wealthy areas are due to the close location to NYC, they are surrounded by not so nice places though.
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From: ShitsBurgh
Originally Posted by Cocoa
It might be running by Monday. I'll keep you guys updated. We'll be working on it all weekend. Therefore I won't be making it to the meet after all.
Hope you get it running mang 
