732xghost

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im tired of my eilbach sportlines and tokico blues. there not low enough and my front passenger side sags. i want some adjustability. i need advice from people who have dealt with (Ground Control Coilover via Koni Yellows- Form & Function Type-II Coilovers- and D2 Coilovers), im completely certain i can go absolutely slammed with any of those setups. those are 3 ive narrowed it down too. so if anyone has expierience with any of the 3, help me out. pics would be awesome too

But heres are gonna be my problem with going any lower:
1. those stupid front camber kits are gonna be banging the shit out of my shock towers. so i might have to go back to stock.

2. i have stock 55 series tires. there probaly gonna rub. i might need 45 series tires.

I DONT WANT INSIGHT FROM NOOBS WHO AINT IN THE KNO.SORRY

klepto

well I cant comment on the first two, but I have k-sports which are just like D2's





You've all seen the pics, thats the height it is with two collars REMOVED in the rear, basically MAX drop, its almost tucking rim, the 2nd pic the rear looks higher than it really is . The front still has a ways to go. I am running no camber kit in the front and the control arm does smash into the shock tower on huge dips :gheylaugh: The rear is fine, no rubbing issues at all. The front also has the fender liners removed. 225/40/18, would prefer running 215's all around.

732xghost

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thanks justin. im leaning toward the D2's now, cuz i found a spot that will ship them to my house for $775. sounds good to me.

BTW if your on H-T you should definitly post your car in the "slammed car thread". you would probaly open some eyes with those pics.

klepto

excellerate can also get you a deal on the k-sports, thats where I got mine from. As for the pic posting thing, I don't go on H-T, but free free to post my pics for me just shoot me the link after

There are tons of other slammed cars on there though.

732xghost

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yea i didnt forget about k-sports i just always thought they didnt go as low and were alot of money.

klepto

k-sports are the exact same as D2, they are manufactured in the same place. It's just if you want orange or purple

732xghost

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hmmm i see. well ill see what excelerate could do for me then.

suremang

i really like the function and form coilovers with 2 of my friends having them. the build quality is extremely nice on them but the ots spring rates are 6/8 which are a little too soft for my liking.

AznX TL

my vote goes to F2!

732xghost

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i still havent found a qoute on those. there coilovers give me a hard on though. for real.

Palayah8ta

http://www.hondasociety.com/board/sh...d.php?t=132078

732xghost

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not bad but i getting free shipping qoutes from distributors on H-T.

i had this one place qoute me $775 shipped for D2's.

97BlackAckCL

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x2 I voted F2 as well

Palayah8ta

thats very reasonable..

97BlackAckCL

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All these posts and only 3 votes? wtf

lnsyone

h-t vendors are the way to go. go for whatever you can get a deal on.. like justin said ksport/d2/omni all same shit basically just different spring rates and features.

DaInFaMMuS1

im partial to ground controls cuz i've seen other cars ride well with them slammed and i'm putting them on my car soon also lol

spencer_homer

ive got 55's too. and im pretty low. i dont rub but its close. just roll your fenders if you really wanna slam it

AznX TL

why roll the fenders if hes not going wider?

teh CL

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d2's ftw..

spencer_homer

i retract my previous statement. i thought he said he wanted to go wide. haha damn vicoden

RYANGP

ohhh F2's are sexy as hell. they get my vote

CLpwner

I vote K-sports because I have those... Sittin at my house not on yet... And they're only 799 shipped for me... from excel

Outlaw

Not sure about the first 2 options, but the D2s are a good choice if you're trying to slam your car. They're pretty damn stiff though. The F2s look hella nice.

I'm selling my D2s if you want em. I've had them for about 2 years, and the ride is too uncomfortable for me so I'm switching over to some Tein Super Streets. PM me if you're interested.

Sleep_DEPRIVED_Sleeper

Go for the Ground Control and Tokico Illuminas (adjustable one). You can specify which spring rate you want. I got 425lb/in in front and 350lb/in rear, but it was really soft for what I was doing - weekend tracking/HPDE's; so ask for at least 475F/400R or more if you want to track; other than that, 425/350 is perfect.








I still have a lot of thread left to lower the spring perch.


When I was a little bit higher:




The car did well on the track but the spring rates were too soft and I bottomed out a lot. Also the KYB AGX could use some more adjustability for better fine tuning.

Sleep_DEPRIVED_Sleeper

P.S. I had 215/55-R16 on stockies, no rubbing at all (at the height pictured).

97BlackAckCL

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I'm so glad u said that, I was just about to buy d2's, do you think doing custom spring rates would be better? Or should I just do the f2's? Are f2's softer? Sorry to steal your thunder matt, but I've never heard anyone say d2's were uncomftorable

dragon084

tein ss-p....

irresponsiblekid

pics of your current setup's height? interested in buying once you replace...
I had GCs on my CRX and similar co's on my g2 teg and they rode like shit ..

fliplyricist1

D2's all the way

I got 9/6 custom rates on mine and can go from go-kart stiffness to very mild with a few turns

I've loved mine since day one

DO NOT get the default spring rates...they come from the factory wayyyy too stiff...unless that's what you want...

732xghost

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F2's are known to be soft.

thanks for the info Sleep deprived. the only problem with the GC/Koni or Tokico, is the price. its a pretty expensive combo.

thanks for the responses guys.

732xghost

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current ride height:

Palayah8ta

again chris its that whole thing with whats great to 1 person is shit to another..

D2, F2, ksports all have a really short stroke.. so you will feel the bumps more than a Tein SS or basic setup. The tein flex setup is similar to the D2.. Chris you shouldnt get the D2/ksports i have a feeling pittsburg roads arent that friendly..

732xghost

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looking to be at this stance like my 2 friends civics. they live in south jersey. totally different ball game from where im from.

97BlackAckCL

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They def are not, I'm leaning toward f2 now for sure

macsta

i have some GC with koni yellow's. i know its a little pricey but you get what u pay for. the ride is real smooth for being able to go that low. plus since you want to slam your car, it doesn't bottom out when u hit bumps. or i say you go with Type-II Coilovers. i heard those go about 3.5" low with a real stiff shocks.

theses are some pics when i first bought the car and slapped on the suspension with 215/55/16 tires on the car.

Malimban123

D2's get my vote 8/6 custom spring rates and lovin every minute of it

732xghost

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wow macsta ur car is absolutely dumped. thats what im going for.

malimbam's car looks good too.

Outlaw

Personally, I think they're uncomfortable. Definitely go with custom spring rates if you decide to get them. I switched mine out from 13k/7k to 7k/6k and it made a big difference, but the real difference is in the damper design.

D2s/Ksports are actually more similar to the Tein Mono Flex setup. D2s/Ksports/F2s/Mono Flex all have monotube dampers. Tein SS/Type Flex have twin tube dampers.

Found this on H-T:
"Monotube - the fluid and gas inside are highly pressurized and are separated with a movable piston.

Advantages:
1) It gives more fluid volume --- energy from spring oscillation is mainly being dissipated in a form of heat and absorbed by the fluid. So higher fluid volume equals higher heat capacity. Remote reservoir has almost double the fluid volume and the reservoirs can be located away from the heat source (ie. inside the driving compartment.)
2) Valve diameter is big. It gives the same amount of energy dissipation with shorter stroke. It performs well even with very little shock travel. So it is ideal for low ride height and stiff springs (1000 lbs+ springs).
3) Highly pressurized gas and fluid eliminate cavitation (air bubble in fluid) so performance is consistent.

Disadvantages:
1) Highly pressurized means higher construction cost.
2) More fluid means heavier unsprung weight (but still lighter than most twin tube dampers). So some monotube dampers are made with aluminum shell -- expensive.
3) Large diameter valve responses very well to transitional load (cornering, accelerating, braking) but responses very slow to bumps so it is not ideal for street use.

Twin Tube - A smaller tube is inside the outside shell and the valve is inside that smaller tube. Fluid and gas are in direct contact and are lowly pressurized.

Advantages:
1) Low construction cost and easy to rebuild.
2) Responses well to bumps and transitional load, but need longer shock travel.
3) Ideal for street and occasional track use.

Disadvantages:
1) Cavitation may occur under extreme use (track use) because of low pressure fluid inside.
2) Cannot handle high spring rates like the monotube.
3) Ride height needs to be set according to the amount of shock travel, usually means a bit higher ride height."

I've driven my friend's Evo 8 with the Tein Type Flex (twin tube) setup 12k front/10k rear and the ride is WAY more comfortable and smoother than my D2s (monotube), even with the EDFC set at the stiffest setting.

About F2s, I was searching Youtube on how to adjust the height on the Tein SS (since you have to adjust the height along with the spring load) and came across this:

"Well mine were underdampened to the max. I bottomed out on every single little dip and dive in the road. It was over stuff that was like an inch deep that I wouldn't even think twice about in on my Teins. They were bouncing, as in they were too soft. The springs were much stiffer than my Teins' but the shocks were horrible so they just felt like crap. Handling was diminished and they weren't very comfy..."

So I guess they're pretty soft. Here's the link:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=tLRdo8atXbM

It all depends on what you want. Hope this helps.

732xghost

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thanks for the info outlaw.

soft ride isnt gonna be good for me cuz of the roads in my area. i might have to re-think about F2's cuz i dont wanna destroy my car over every little bump. but then again you can adjust the softness or stiffness.

i might go with the GC/Koni combo. ive hardly heard anything bad about the setup. its a little expensive, but it might be worth it in the end.