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Old 11-10-2003, 07:51 PM
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How's our cars at autocrossing?

My friends when 2 sundays in a row. i unfortunately had to work. i just saw the video one of my friend's took and it looks like fun. but we're planning to go again next month. how do our cars fair? do you keep it in 1st all the way or shift to 2nd? coz. its hard to shift back to first sometimes. i know our cars have a terrible turning radius so will this affect the results? is it all about the driver or does a faster car get faster results? any tips?
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Just be careful man - cuz if you wreck your car or someone elses - I doubt your insurance will cover it.
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talk to ridnlow or somethin like that i think hes the one that took it all the time .. try a search for it he posted pics and all the goodies
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insurance will cover you, assuming you have collision coverage if you are not on a race track and only in a parking lot

how well it will do is another question, i went to about 12 events this year. I raced in STS, lots of competition in this class.

here are the results from the last race. The first run i beat every single car except a westfield. but after that the vettes started to put the power down.
http://iowaregionscca.home.mchsi.com...sultsoct26.htm
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Originally posted by CLUofI
insurance will cover you, assuming you have collision coverage if you are not on a race track and only in a parking lot

how well it will do is another question, i went to about 12 events this year. I raced in STS, lots of competition in this class.

here are the results from the last race. The first run i beat every single car except a westfield. but after that the vettes started to put the power down.
http://iowaregionscca.home.mchsi.com...sultsoct26.htm
wow thats pretty good. u beat out a few 240s and integras. what's STS? what do you have in your car? suspension and bars? do they choose what category u go in? im sure it really messes up your tires huh.
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sts is street tire touring. a stock 2.x competes in H stock which is the lowest class. STS is for suspension and light engine upgrades on street tires. started in april on a set of kumho 712's that had about 8 or 10k miles on them, right now i cant drive in the rain. I probably have another 8 autocross days left on them if it never rained here.
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Whoa, they do this shiz in parking lots and stuff? I thought it was just at tracks? This is sweet - wonder how an auto would hold up?
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Originally posted by proaudio22
Whoa, they do this shiz in parking lots and stuff? I thought it was just at tracks? This is sweet - wonder how an auto would hold up?
well, try and see... next autox is in chattanooga on the 7th of december... plan on it and let me know.
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i forgot to answer the second half of your question jamolie

autoxing is 90% driver, 10% car. The best way to get better is with lots of practice. the turning radius has only hurt me once or twice, rarely do i get to full lock. The courses are designed to give handling and power their own advantage on different parts of the course. On most courses once you get it to second you leave it(5speed). Faster cars do not always get the fastest times, depending on the course the fastest car may be a CRX or a Z06.

The down falls to the CL are
1. Weight 3000+ pounds is a lot to drag around
2. No LSD
Old 11-11-2003, 08:50 PM
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I was going to try it this last weekend, but I didn't get my suspension installed in time. A guy I work with does it all the time, and he races a Miata and a F-500 car. I think I'm going to enter next year, because they are finished here for this year. I may have him drive my car the first time, just so that he can give me tips on driving the course. They also set ours up in a huge old runway at an old airport, so there's just a lot of flat concrete.
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i think i posted some pics of me one time it was a lot of fun for sure......... i beat out a few cars that i wouldnt have thought...... here are some pics.....
and for my roomates car and here are the results from that day this was my first run so im down at the bottom in novice class
http://www.cincyautox.org/Solo2003/040606.htm
Old 11-12-2003, 08:01 AM
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damn penny, that 2nd pic of your car in action is sweet!
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im thinkin bout doing autocross neone else?
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Check with your insurance agent to see how it would be covered. Auto-X can be considered driver improvement or a "learning session", compared to say an open track day.
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Is lowering the car a must for autocrossing or will I be fine with stock suspension if I want to do it just for fun
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Originally posted by CLUofI
i forgot to answer the second half of your question jamolie
The down falls to the CL are
1. Weight 3000+ pounds is a lot to drag around
2. No LSD
not to mention the small-ass power steering reservoir that likes to starve the pump on repeated switchbacks and make your power steering cut out on you.
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no joke, i have flatened a few cones when the power steering cuts out.
Old 11-13-2003, 04:51 PM
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damn, i didnt know that the power steering could cut out on you. penny, some nice pics man. if any of u people around tennessee and atlanta are interested, there's one coming up on the 7th of december here in chattanooga. should be fun.
Old 11-13-2003, 07:52 PM
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thanks for the comments on the pics guys....here is one more

check this one out, my best run was better than his first hahaha... but hten he beat me by like 10 seconds o well pretty bad ass huh??
Old 11-13-2003, 07:55 PM
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Actually i only lost by a little more than 3 seconds, just goes to show its not always good too have way too much power. O well check this out.........

chris pennekamp 98 acura cl white /DNF/ /64.611/ /64.132/ /62.287/ /62.287/

scott helterbridge 02 dodge viper red /64.294/ /62.098/ /59.268/ /59.914/ /59.268/


sorry about the attention whoring....
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Is your car an auto Chris? I'm sorta worried about frying mine, but this looks really fun (for lack of a better word) to me. I think I would really enjoy it. What kind of speeds were you normally putting down? I could get into second and leave it there but that'll hurt if I have to drop below 25mph or so. What about tire wear and the cost of entering?

Hey Meryvn, where's it gonna be at? I'm game I guess. I at least wanna come watch. I just tried to find out some info online w/ no luck - but I did see a post on another forum about the local SCCA doing an autocross type thing every month over behind the car dealers @ 153.
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Ok, here we go. This one on Dec. 7 is by the local SCCA. It's at the Auto Auction. The SCCA does all kinds of cools stuff around here. Rally, etc.

http://www.rivergate5speed.com/scca/index.html
Old 11-13-2003, 10:06 PM
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umm, well i have an auto 3.0, first for most second for a little bit, wait until about 15-19 miles per hour to down shift, if you put it in first too early it just wont downshift......Tires, if your right foot is heavy with our open front end, tires will be shredded. Ummm i think the tranny will hold up just fine for a few runs.....i recommend making sure you are up to date on your oil changes make sure there is oil in the engine, and maybe even tranny flush before going. Its a hell of a lot of fun....my region is only 20 bucks 15 for non members of the scca......good luck and post pics if you go.
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I've never auto-xed, but I know some guys who do. It's supposed to be a lot of fun, but it can get expensive. The SCCA has some good stuff online for first timers at this link:

http://www.sfrscca.com/solo2/survival.html
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Cool link Sac CL. It looks like a ton of fun, I'm just worried about tires as I really don't want to spend $700+ on a new set when I ruin my current ones (80% tread left).
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Originally posted by proaudio22
Cool link Sac CL. It looks like a ton of fun, I'm just worried about tires as I really don't want to spend $700+ on a new set when I ruin my current ones (80% tread left).
Like I said, it can get pretty expensive. My friend works to support his habit. He's got a kick-ass S2000. His wife also drives it and has won a bunch of trophies in the women's class.
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yeah I like pic one the best... sounds fun I would do it if I had money for new tires. Can it really count for driver improvement course? or are you just kidding.
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just got back from autocrossing all day yesterday. although it was cold as hell, it was crazy fun. it gave me more of an adrenaline rush than drag racing. im really impressed with my tein suspension, and glad that I got a shift light. if any of you havent gone, you really should. i ran on my stocks and kept up with my friend's civic si on all the runs. ill post pics soon.
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Sweet man. Sorry I couln't make it out there, to much shit to do.

What wheels did you run on?
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i dont think there is any way ill ever do this due to the fact that i wouldnt want to put my bay bay thru all the stress ... but it looks like fun and i would go to watch if there was one around here
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Originally posted by laslo
i dont think there is any way ill ever do this due to the fact that i wouldnt want to put my bay bay thru all the stress ... but it looks like fun and i would go to watch if there was one around here
You can see them autocross out at Cal Expo in the spring and summer. The last race was 2 weeks ago. My friend is a regular racer in his Honda S2000.
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Originally posted by Sacramento CL
You can see them autocross out at Cal Expo in the spring and summer. The last race was 2 weeks ago. My friend is a regular racer in his Honda S2000.
Hey Bro, we meet alot in Sacto and run the foothills, you should join us ! Check out our thread in Club events, we have a few Gen 1s who hang with us.
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i ran with my stock tires and wheels. yea, i'm sure that put alot of stress on the car, but it was fun as hell. i'm pretty impressed with the way my car handles. it is better than expected. i'm still waiting for my friend to upload the videos.

yea, there were awesome cars out there... porshes, M3s, Z06, s2000, type r to name a few.
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