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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 08:32 AM
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HID conversion

Hey, i was just wondering if you can use the stock housings if you do an HID conversion?

i always thoght you needed projectors but i saw an RL and it had HID's with normal reflector housings (at least i thought i did) and i was amazed that you didn't need projectors.

can you do that? will the stock housings deal with the heat?
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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just get a 9006 upgrade kit. it will have everything you need.
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 10:32 AM
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heat isnt an issue... most halogen bulbs produce more radiant heat than an arc type light source.

Some cars have reflector type HID headlights (Newer RL's, TL's, CL's, Maxima, Q45....) and other companies choose to use projectors. The light output is relatively similar.

Putting HIDs in your headlights isnt a bad thing, you'll just lack the near perfect beam pattern of a true HID headlight, as your halogen reflector headlights were not designed to disperse such an intense beam, so you get "hot spots" on the road.

Like he said, best bet is to find a 9006 HID kit, then it'll be plug-and-play... and the bulbs fit in your headlights like a normal halogen bulb.
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 10:43 AM
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Thank you guys for the info, where could i get a 9006 HID conversion kit? PIAA have one?
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 10:47 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2435639069

something like that?
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by SumAccordGuy94
heat isnt an issue... most halogen bulbs produce more radiant heat than an arc type light source.

Some cars have reflector type HID headlights (Newer RL's, TL's, CL's, Maxima, Q45....) and other companies choose to use projectors. The light output is relatively similar.

Putting HIDs in your headlights isnt a bad thing, you'll just lack the near perfect beam pattern of a true HID headlight, as your halogen reflector headlights were not designed to disperse such an intense beam, so you get "hot spots" on the road.

Like he said, best bet is to find a 9006 HID kit, then it'll be plug-and-play... and the bulbs fit in your headlights like a normal halogen bulb.
exactly, the biggest problems are

1. you pay $400+ for something you cant even get the real benefits of hid from

2. depending upon the police where you live, its etremely easy to tell a car with a kit from a real oem xenon reflector setup, so be preapred to be pulled over

3. you will prob distract other motorists

4. most kits do not position the capsule well when its rebased, and the cheaper kits dont have quallity parts usually.

FYI all oem setups use 4100K philips or osram bulbs!! not coated crap that appear to be 6000K, 8000K, etc. so again watch out for the 5.0

honestly if i was you i would just get some quality 70-80 watt bulbs and upgrade your wiring harness. the only lighting setup i see a huge diff in is oem reflector or projector vs. halogen. even 65 watt bulbs in my lows were better than some xenon kits. especially if you fall for that 8000, 10,000 crap cuz your light output will suck in the rain.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 09:48 AM
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HID Conversion...

Actually, it depends where you live. Here in New York, no one gives you asecond look even if you have a camel as a hood ornament. Check where you live. 4100k is acceptable, but may get pulled for 6000 or 8000. They are not really brighter, just bluish or purplish.

I have HID, and I must say, it's worth it. Surf ebay, they have quite a few listing for alot less than $400.

Now, I you're feeling adventurous and want OEM projector style HID ala BMW or AUDI, check out this link:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/syclone1/hid/page1.htm

I myself been mulling over converting my headlight housing with this mod.

It's alot of work, but very gratifying.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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heres what it looks like on a cl (mine)
this is why i said all that, i have personally see all types of setups so im speaking from experience not opinion (there are some decetn kits, but nothing! nothing! compares to a true xenon reflector or projector setup) not to mention this costs less if u do the work yourself







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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 11:36 AM
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HID

Where do you live again? Looks like I'll just steal yours! LMAO!
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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ummmmmmmmm... if you saw a HID kit for 400... and you really thought they all cost that much?
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by AsianDDRManiac
ummmmmmmmm... if you saw a HID kit for 400... and you really thought they all cost that much?
there are real cheap stuff for less maybe $250 but that is crap. go on ebay and buy bmw or audi bulbs, ballasts, and projectors for about $300-400. u could even just pic up QUALITY oem bulbs and ballasts for about $250. kits = CRAP!!!! end of story

better yet ill sell you some
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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Re: HID

Originally posted by acuranoel
Where do you live again? Looks like I'll just steal yours! LMAO!
why come all the way to nj, just go find a bmw or audi
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 02:35 PM
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hey vxcl, if you were to make a custom projector set up (like your headlights), and you were to sell it, how much would you charge?
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 04:02 PM
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another question for vxcl

how, if at possible is it, to modify a standard HID bulb, D2S (i can't remember the exact numbers for the other one) to fit in a 9006 socket.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by uiskibum
another question for vxcl

how, if at possible is it, to modify a standard HID bulb, D2S (i can't remember the exact numbers for the other one) to fit in a 9006 socket.
the best bet is to modify you housing slightly to position the d2s or d2r bulb where the light seems best focused and secure it. then u just have to hook up the ballasts with relays triggered by ur oem wiring. the lock for 9906 bulb in our housing just unscrews off so it pretty easy to do.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by lnsyone
hey vxcl, if you were to make a custom projector set up (like your headlights), and you were to sell it, how much would you charge?
the parts
ballasts, projectors, and bulbs would cost $300-400 tops. depends how much u can get some d2s bulbs for. i cannot supply them. i just have ballasts and projectors.

labor $150 ($50 is small parts, sealants, etc)

if u want me to supply the headlamps figure $500 for 2 brand new ones

and shipping to hawaii has got to be at least $50

i'm tryin to get my hands on some used cl headlamps so i can just sell the completed sets, but its hard.

you have the best avatar
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by VXCL
the parts
ballasts, projectors, and bulbs would cost $300-400 tops. depends how much u can get some d2s bulbs for. i cannot supply them. i just have ballasts and projectors.

labor $150 ($50 is small parts, sealants, etc)

if u want me to supply the headlamps figure $500 for 2 brand new ones

and shipping to hawaii has got to be at least $50

i'm tryin to get my hands on some used cl headlamps so i can just sell the completed sets, but its hard.

you have the best avatar
hehe thanks! when im seriously into getting a custom projector setup, ill give you a holla
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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vxcl did you have to take the light apart to take out that refector/shield on the low beam side?
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by TeamBlurryCL
vxcl did you have to take the light apart to take out that refector/shield on the low beam side?
you have to take the healdight completely apart, modfiy it, test it, clean everything, put it all back together again
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by VXCL
you have to take the healdight completely apart, modfiy it, test it, clean everything, put it all back together again
I think you should just make a website or something with the prices and shit. People ask you like everyday and shit. Let me know if u need some html coding.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 02:18 PM
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I think you should just make a website or something with the prices and shit. People ask you like everyday and shit. Let me know if u need some html coding.
that is an excellent idea. i'd help with some coding too. VXCL's guide to projector setups or something.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by uiskibum
that is an excellent idea. i'd help with some coding too. VXCL's guide to projector setups or something.
I can host also.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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im so busy with school. im tryin to get around to it so ppl will buy up all these parts i got. i dont have too much time to do the conversions myself. i took alot of pics during my last conversion.
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Old Oct 14, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by VXCL
im so busy with school. im tryin to get around to it so ppl will buy up all these parts i got. i dont have too much time to do the conversions myself. i took alot of pics during my last conversion.
If u want, I can just put them on a page, and price list etc, u just have to put description and maybe some directions. It probably take me like 15 mins at that point.
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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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VXCL, dude stop posting pictures of ur car =) jk making me jealous.
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