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Old 01-04-2005, 10:42 PM
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ok guys I need:

1. HKS ignition kit or MSD kit

2. Magnecor wires and denso plugs

3. Helix power tower

4. Vafc (version one or two)

5. correct magnaflow hi-flow catalytic converter that fits our 3.0CL



Help me find some good, cheap websites to buy all these off of. I need to have extra cash after spending so I can go to the dyno!
Old 01-04-2005, 11:29 PM
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i ll save you money by telling you to NOT buy the power tower, i heard that thing was a waste
Old 01-05-2005, 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Katana18
i ll save you money by telling you to NOT buy the power tower, i heard that thing was a waste

there was a post by dustbuster about the tower somewhere

he thought it was ok, but only in the 3 hp range.. but whatever floats your boat
Old 01-05-2005, 12:53 AM
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yup....HP floats my boat!!!!
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What does the power tower actually do?
Old 01-05-2005, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by DrDre1443
yup....HP floats my boat!!!!

isnt it like $400, and for only 3HP? i'd live without it. honestly Dre, if HP floats your boat, you need a different car.
Old 01-05-2005, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Katana18
isnt it like $400, and for only 3HP? i'd live without it. honestly Dre, if HP floats your boat, you need a different car.
i think its around $100.
Old 01-05-2005, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Katana18
isnt it like $400, and for only 3HP? i'd live without it. honestly Dre, if HP floats your boat, you need a different car.
ebay i saw it for the accord for 79 bucks
Old 01-05-2005, 10:11 AM
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100, or 79, it doesnt matter. You're not gonna feel 3 HP.
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eh hemmmm... but what do it doooooo??
Old 01-05-2005, 10:41 AM
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I have dajuice27s power tower, never put it on my car, was gonna post it up for sale.
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Also, keep in mind the MSD prob needs tweaking, might be better off to find a local dealer than can help with the install.
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well, cheapest place I found it so far is Nopi, and it's 77.81,
I found some Magnecor wires for 135,
a VAFC II for 229,
denso iridiums for 10.29 and NGK iridiums for 6.50, any difference?
I found a magnalow cat for 78.29,
and an HKS twin power for 391.



anyone find any better so far?
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ok pro gimme your power tower
Old 01-05-2005, 11:04 AM
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Aight, he's the scoop on it:

It is the newer style model that has the partial circle milling and the other half is like small cutouts all around, looks very similar to this:

The newer model is supposed to be quieter, but as per the thread linked below, Rick and Dennis said they sound the same.

The parts I have are:
1.) Helix spacer
2.) One, used gasket
3.) Four, proper sized bolts (Rick aka dustbuster4 found none of the bolts included with the kit fit, and bought new ones. He also helped Dennis aka dajuice27 put his in and they bought same bolts for that). See this thread https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=helix

What it's missing:
1.) All the bolts they have you with the kit. They don't fit anyway so this is of no concern.
2.) Throttle cable bracket for relocation. As per the thread above and my own inspection this shouldn't be needed on our car either, idk why it's there.
3.) Two, new gaskets. If you want to go with used gaskets there is one aleady on your car (no idea what condition tho) plus the one have that is in great condition, just shows marks where it lines up with the spacer. These are $1.61 each from acuraautomotiveparts.net and prob cheaper from like auto zone.

Original instructions:
http://www.streetandperformanceelect...structions.pdf

I paid $70 for it so ?
Old 01-05-2005, 11:22 AM
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ok I'll give you 70 bucks for it but that includes shipping and you can ship it USPS snail mail.
Old 01-05-2005, 12:28 PM
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Help me save money too. I need Eibach Pro Krit.

Used for less than 80 shipped .
Old 01-05-2005, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by DrDre1443
ok I'll give you 70 bucks for it but that includes shipping and you can ship it USPS snail mail.
Sounds good. Doesn't weigh that much and it shouldn't take that big of a box (6" cube would be WELL packed) - I have no prob sending it Priority mail or UPS/Fed Ex. PM me your shipping address and I'll look it up later tonight and compare the rates.

I'll snap a couple pics for ya if you want.

Do you have Paypal?
Old 01-05-2005, 06:13 PM
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an ignition system is also a waste of money unless you have spray or fi. the stock system is more than adequate, even with i/h/e, etc. save your money and get some cams. Even the vafc isnt that great unless you have heavy modding. Our engines are designed to get the maximum amount of hp/torque out of the stock settings. So unless you have some mods to justify it, all you are going to be doing is starving or fouling the engine. So basicly what i am saying is to get some mods that will make a difference over the stock parts and wait till after that to get the vafc.

p.s. don't hesitate on the plug wires though, those will make a difference. plus they fit and look so much nicer.
Old 01-05-2005, 08:49 PM
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well I will go by the dyno of the guy on www.v6p.net who put a HKS twin power on and got 11WHP. I am getting a whole head package in March. So I will need all this stuff anyways. I want 250WHP N/A. IT IS going to happen.


BTW- I found the HKS Twin Power at a speed shop for $353 and a random tech. specific cat for $208.
Old 01-05-2005, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by LCARUCA 97
an ignition system is also a waste of money unless you have spray or fi. the stock system is more than adequate, even with i/h/e, etc. .
i disagree, i have vxcl's old msd 6a ignition and there is definitely a difference. first of all, its more responsive at all rpms, smoother cruising the highway, and at the top end, it just EXPLODES. the stock systems doesnt recharge quickly enough to give full spark at high rpms.
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Comptech got 10 or 11 wheel hp with an ignition system too on a J30.
Old 01-05-2005, 09:22 PM
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YEAH! WE ARE RIGHT! and he is WRONG!
Old 01-05-2005, 09:25 PM
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also, my only engine mod is an intake (and the ignition is the 6a with blaster ss coil and msd wires)
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Originally Posted by DrDre1443
YEAH! WE ARE RIGHT! and he is WRONG!
yeah, looks like you know what you are doing..........

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=692025

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=871360

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=128341

http://board.hondasociety.com/showth...ight=msd+worth
Old 01-05-2005, 11:27 PM
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All 4 bangers man. Diff can of worms. There are dynos that prove it on the V6, it's not like we are blowing smoke here.
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maybe you aren't blowing smoke but everyone else doesnt have a clue. they are going off what their buddy told them or "butt dynos". either way 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, 20 cylinders, if you arent heavily modded there is no justification for spending the money for so little difference. not to mention that its just one more thing to go wrong. He can do whatever he wants to his car and it wont matter to me a bit, i'm just trying to make some helpfull suggestions.
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well, first off thanks!

and secondly, I I guess I should have posted why I want this. I'm buying a complete head package and still pondering about forged pistons....which would raise compression in addition to the head package. and with the V-AFC, that would be more fuel, more air, hence....need more spark!!!


anyone who has an ignition kit......I'm getting the HKS twin power, is this a full kit? I mean, do I need to buy any seperate wires or harness or "coil"?. I'm buying magnecor wires and NGK plugs.
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dont forget the cams
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oh yeah! included in the package!
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