CAMBER!
This is the 3rd time I've changed my CL's suspension. This time I got skunk 2 coilovers from a 97 accord. They ride nice and everythings great, EXCEPT MY CAMBER! I knew it was going to be a problem, but tonight I've been looking into ingalls camber kits, and it says they are only for a 1-1.25 inch drop. Says it's not recomended for anything lower. Well my shit is like a 2.5" drop right now. Does anyone actually have a drop of 2" or more that has a camber kit and is happy with it?? I previously had goldline 2.25" springs, and tried a sprint camber kit and it was a POS! It made the car sooo bumpy that I didn't leave it in long enough to even see if it corrected my camber.

I've heard ingalls is the only way to go, but I just want to know if you can still use it if your really low. I mean 1.25" seams rediculous, and I can't imagine that thats as low as it works with.
It also said adjusts -3/4* to +1* . I'm guesing my camber is atleast 2* off, so what the fuck should I do?!? hELP! THANKS

 

I really want to get this right the first time, so I need to find out! I'm hoping one of you has a similar suspension setup but with a camber kit you are pleased with so i can just buy that one.

 

someone has to have a decent camber kit! 80% of you on here are slammed!

 

i dont know why everyone in the mainland is so uptight about camber, i mean not dissing you guys or anything, but down here everyone could care less about it, almost every CL ive seen are slammed to the ground, a lot of ppl dont like camber kits because you cant slam your car as much with it

anywho, you should try looking into eibach, i think they make camber kits for our car, everyone complains that ingalls sqeaks a lot

 

I used a progressive kit (offset pivot mount) which helped the 2" drop. It squeaked in the winter, but I think I did not grease it enough/right.

We worry about camber cause we don't want to shell out 400+ dollars every 8-10k miles because of uneven tire wear. Most people here don't want slammed, but lowered for performance. So that is why we care.

For me though, there is no hope for a 6"+ drop.

 

blo2ck, my car is slammed to the ground...i got the sprint xtreme camber kit which fix's up to -3 degree camber... which is basically 2.5" or whatever... my camber seems to be fine...but it does make a lot of a little noises...im pretty sure because it scraps the control arm but any camber kit that is xtreme is going to do this because of where it sits... when the guy installed it he had to torch some the piece off to get it to fit but my camber seems to be fine now...

 

hmmm my car does seem BUMPY...

FOR THE 5th time imma ask this question...

HOW DOES A CAMBER KIT AFFECT THE RIDE QUALITY?

isnt the camber kit stationary? i dont see how it could affect it other then make squeak over bump and crunching sounds at slow speed

 

ALSO...

Does anyone i guess w/ a camber kit have a crunching sounds that happens like every other second while in a slow roll? like 5mph... Anyone know what it is? It comes from the front right wheel well... I heard it could be ball joint but i lookd up my vin # and it wasnt under recall or anything... ANYONE know whats causing this?

 

Eibach makes one. I found out that have your camber off kit puts excessive wear on your steering pump, tie rods, ball joints, differential, hubs, etc. because the wheels are constantly trying to pull away from the car. Stress that these parts were not designed to take. Your looking at stress on threads of nuts and bolts. I looked long and hard into this question because I put on a Prokit and wanted to know if it would affect my car and this was what I found through multiple sources of information. Not to mention tire wear which no one seems to care about.

 

rodxx....camber kit affects the ride cause more than likely youve got a urathane bushing in our aftermarket camber kit...stock is rubber with grease....also, it makes more of the tire surface meet the ground more evenly...therefore becoming more responsive to driving conditions....but mostly, its because of the stiffer bushing

 

rodxx-that sprint camber kit is a POS like i said before.

so does anybody have the eiback camber kit?? I didn't know they made one, i'm gonna look into it right now.

acurallity-everyone out there is stupid if they don't care about camber! If you have more than a 1.8" drop your tires won't last more than 5 months!

 

that is the dumbest thing i've ever heard? for one how would a camber kit prevent you from slamming your car? I can see it preventing maybe a little bit of a drop, but still that bit of a drop would be pointless because you'd be rubbing everywhere. My car basically couldn't go any lower w/ a camber kit, or w/o and not be totally unable to be driven. Also a camber kit is completely necessary if you want to keep performance and your tires, otherwise you are most likely not getting any type of decent traction since you are running limited tire patch. Try driving a slammed car round on new tires w/ no camber kit, they'll be toast in about 8K miles. Trust me I learned the hard way.

Blo2k. I ended up having my lower control arm bent and did the washer trick in the rear.

 

i learned my lesson also i threw my low pro falkens on and slammed it and i thought i was the man...4 months later my tires are bald on the inside...6 months later wire showing...7months later to new front tires... and 18 inch low pro tires aint cheep

 

OK now i hear my camber kit sucks it solved the problem but what can i do to fix the noise and other stuff?

 

grease. i'd grease up the bushings to try to stop the squeek.

 

Ingall's are way better than your typical ball joint style camber kit.. the ball joint style will hit the fender well if your dropped too low and eventually crack it.. also the ball joint style is known to move and put itself out of alignment.. as for the ingall's camber kit that gos on upper control arm joints, your camber adjustment is more solid and also ingall's has the camber kit for 1.5"-3" drop which adjusts +1.25 to +3.00 degrees .. (part #5720 www.ingallseng.com) http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...hlight=ingalls

 

Mine's going on the car on sat. I'll keep you posted.

2 uprights for the fronts...2 control arms w/ ball joints for the rears.

BTW...Eibach = specialized techniques or some wierd thing like that. Its made by the Eibach mother company.

 

cool gotrice, where did you get that kit??? how much??

FLCL-did that kit your selling work good for you? how low was your car? and why are you selling it? I might buy it, where in so cal are you?

i don't need a camber kit for the rear, just the front. Even with fucked up rear camber, it does nothing to the tires. All the turning and burning out wear just goes straight to the front.
Before when i had the goldline 2.25" drop the rear never even started to wear, but the front was a mess.

ghander-where did you have the bending done at?

 

You don't wanna know...lol.

It was like ~$65 or something for the fronts...~$85 or so for the rears.

I got everything shipped for ~$310 from Ross.

Also, to get installed & aligned, you're talking about +$200 more on top of that. Acura dealer costs just as much as the tire places I got quoted from ($135 install, $99 alignment).

 

so was it $65 for each front??? Or is the $310 including labor?
I ain't spendin that much, thats for sure!
My friends has a shop witha lift, so i'll make his ass install it, but i'm looking to spend around $150 on a good front kit.

 

~$65 for EACH front for JUST parts.

 

ouch! F that, i'm gonna try and find a cheaper one that'l work.

i like ghanders idea, but don't know where I'd get something like that done. A muffler shop??

 

I didn't have any problems w/ the Ingall's on my car.. it was in my 96' Accord .. I actually like the fact that they're urethane bushing rather than rubber bushing, because it gave me a better handle over the road.. I'm selling these camber kit, because i sold my car and was VERY CLOSE to getting a 99 CL (which i could've installed them in .. ) but i got a 98 Accord now.. I had Eibach Sportline on my car which was approx a 2" drop.. I'm located in the 626 area.. hit me up if your interested 626-825-7971

Installation is easy if you put the time and work into it.. as for alignment.. if your in so cal you can goto a Discount Tire store and buy their lifetime alignment.. just pay once and you could align your car as often as you want..

 

ingalls camber kits ..... they correct up to +-3 degrees u must have seen another one ... im on an ignalls kit and im riding on sportlines and tokico blues so im pretty low 2+ inches

and my camber is within specs no squeaky squeaky either

MaCe

 

I feel soo fuckin ripped off... when i got my camber kit it was just like a quick fix cause it was a big problem tire wearing like crazy... so the place ordered it for me "SPRINT XTREME CAMBER KIT" and they ordered it from NOPI.COM look at the price!! And ingalls seems cheeper!! i went to the place and they wont change it out or anything...

 

They offer that for lower cars also? Cause I would think it would be different cause you have to adjust each camber kit.

 

you are absolutely wrong. The rears will actually go quicker then the front because they constantly sit at their off camber. The fronts move around so the tire patch is able to stay. Also rotate your tires every 3K

 

a place called Baer Alignment it's in West Covina I believe.

 

It's on Arrow Highway in Covina, Azusa, or Glendora, (the three Cities cross around there).

 

that's the road, completely flew otu of my head

 

ghander you had problems with the back tires? Mine were fine for 6 months with a 2.25" drop.

We'l see how it is with these coilovers. I'l wait on the back a few months and see if i need it.

ok mace- i think i'm just gonna trust you and get the ingalls kit.

 

I have and everyone I know has. Why even wait, it's so easy to do the rear. the rear tires are usually off more then the front in some cases.

 

yeah, my rears look like the camber is worse, but they didn't were at all last time. I'll probably ge the rear anyway, since it's cheaper.

Look tho, this is the second site that says ingalls is only for +1* correction
http://store.yahoo.com/twincamtech/incamkit.html

 

Try these guys

http://www.ultraperformance.com/index_home.html

You need to call them with the Ingalls part number, their website sucks. If you know what you want they will get it for you. Ask about free shipping for a full kit.

Ingalls' site:

http://www.ingallseng.com/cars/acura.html

 

thanks wingman, even the ingalls site says the front is adjustable from -3/4*to +1*. WTF

 

? +1.25° to 3°


http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/3572.html

 

where can i find the shim camber kit for the rears...and not the cheap kit someone made from home depot and is selling on ebay...it adjusts up to .75* degree's....

 

These?

http://www.ingallseng.com/parts/3893.htm

 

OK...Eibach camber correction is on the car. Fixed everything into spec. No squeaking at all. Still rides great, if not better. But check this out...Acura had a hard time doing the alignment with my camber kit on there . The service manager said he broke 3 brand new wrenches trying to get it and the end result was the steering was getting more and more cockeyed. They didn't have the proper tools to get into the tight area. So...I got a RSX loaner (base model) and the service manager took the car to tire kingdom to get aligned. So everything is kosher now. Anyhow, I'm pleased with the result.

 

i live in hawaii, and i care about camber. i had a 95 accord with prokits, and i got ingalls, my stock suspension wasnt able to be adjusted enough to be in specs. i rode arround with out a camber kit for a while, but once on i could tell a major difference in driving, it felt much....safer. i know that a lot of people think camber is a waste of money, but it's for safety not only for you but others. if your not going to do it right (people in hawaii with cut springs, slammed to the ground, blown struts) don't do it at all, you make the hobby in to a "fad" and cause more problems for everyone else.