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Old 07-22-2005 | 09:41 PM
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H23A motor?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/pts/86317304.html

Dunno if anyone around here is interested in a H23 swap, but this is quite a deal
Old 07-22-2005 | 09:42 PM
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I read something about, I think CLpower? When he had a deal on an H23A, how his F22 mods would have a larger impact on the H23
Old 07-22-2005 | 10:08 PM
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just find an h22 head and slap it on your f22 bottom end..
Old 07-23-2005 | 11:04 AM
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^can you do that

i was thinking about doing that but people say it wont match up...
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Old 07-23-2005 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
can..
why is that better than an h22?
and is this what you did?
AND i saw i think someone on honda-tech did that, wouldnt it be harder than an h22 swap?
Old 07-23-2005 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bkmc24
why is that better than an h22?
and is this what you did?
AND i saw i think someone on honda-tech did that, wouldnt it be harder than an h22 swap?
more of a boost friendly setup. no, i didnt go that route.. however i am using an h23 crank in my h22 bottom end. the h would be an easier, more direct swap.
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how much work is it to swap in the H22 head?

and is it worth the work
Old 07-23-2005 | 07:31 PM
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get an h22 and rebuild the motor and boost it
Old 07-24-2005 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
more of a boost friendly setup. no, i didnt go that route.. however i am using an h23 crank in my h22 bottom end. the h would be an easier, more direct swap.
what does the h23 crank accomplish rather than the h22 crank?
Old 07-24-2005 | 04:13 AM
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bumps up the displacement a lil bit. you'll be making more power on the bottom end, but you sacrifice higher revs.. it's the complete opposite what i wanted to do but my h22 crank was fucked up and the easiest thing for me to get ahold was an h23 block.
Old 07-24-2005 | 01:29 PM
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okay, so you reccomend just the h22 swap then?
Old 07-24-2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by bkmc24
okay, so you reccomend just the h22 swap then?
imo, it really depends how you're going to drive your car. i just named other alternatives. i'm a person that likes to rev high, and my setup is built to rev over 8k, so yes, the complete H22 setup is meant for me. now, in my situation, my motor blew and my H22 crank was messed up. at the time, i could only get my hands on a blown H23 block with the crank still intact and in very good shape. the problem with the H23 cranks is that they aren't meant to rev like an H22. it makes no sense for me to sacrifice higher revs because i'll just top out faster on my already short geared H22 tranny with boost. on the plus side of things (except my situation), the H23 crank creates better low-end power than the h22.
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Originally Posted by lnsyone
just find an h22 head and slap it on your f22 bottom end..
No worky. I researched that for my Accorn.
Old 07-24-2005 | 06:08 PM
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No worky. I researched that for my Accorn.
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=776837
Old 07-24-2005 | 09:38 PM
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well thanks for the help insy, im getting a job soon and im saving for a motor swap so, your opinion is a big one from here.
Old 07-25-2005 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bkmc24
well thanks for the help insy, im getting a job soon and im saving for a motor swap so, your opinion is a big one from here.
you'd be happy with the h22. if you decide to boost your H later on, it would be a very fun freeway car.
Old 07-25-2005 | 03:35 PM
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well im planning on it, just waiting for the moeny lol. is it true thet 92-96 h22's are more boost friendly?
Old 07-25-2005 | 04:53 PM
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well im planning on it, just waiting for the moeny lol. is it true thet 92-96 h22's are more boost friendly?
92-96' are closed deck and is a more solid design but they don't cool the cylinder walls too well as opposed to an open deck design. and 97'+ are opened deck yet the cylinders "float". Under boost, the thing is in a stock sleeved open deck design, the increased ammount of combustion distorts the cylinders which can lead to some problems. you can still boost on either block design, but the #1 thing you can count on is piston failure (ex. cracking). so, when you decide to boost the H, i highly reccomend getting forged pistons. if you're going to get forged pistons, then you'll need to sleeve the block and you might as well buy a nice set of rods too. that way, you're ensuring a stronger and safer (than stock) setup while boosting. in the end you can boost more and not worry about your bottom end failing. you'll still need to get it tuned, though.

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Old 07-28-2005 | 03:50 PM
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okay so honestly, what h22 do you reccomend for eventual turbo app?
Old 07-28-2005 | 04:36 PM
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either or.

the best thing to do is build your bottom end and get a good ems. that way you can boost and do more rather than worrying about your bottom end failing.
Old 07-28-2005 | 06:03 PM
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would you like to fill me in on what ems is? lol
Old 07-28-2005 | 06:25 PM
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engine management system

example of a piggy back ems: greddy e-manage

example of a stand alone ems: hondata
Old 07-28-2005 | 06:27 PM
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ahh understood, brain fart for a second. well sooner or later ill be posting and ill be swapping. wheres the cheapest quality h22 i could find? and also how much should an install cost?
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you guys got me all hyped up so i just started saving for a H22
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you guys got me all hyped up so i just started saving for a H22
Get to it, start saving that money
Old 07-29-2005 | 12:05 PM
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hahaha well thats what im doin, i was debating on either turboing the f22 or swapping and a swap sounded better
Old 07-29-2005 | 12:18 PM
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hahaha well thats what im doin, i was debating on either turboing the f22 or swapping and a swap sounded better
swap that shit :thief:
Old 07-30-2005 | 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 97BlackAckCL
Get to it, start saving that money
im way ahead of you

...what would be better for the h22, turboing it or putting in a supercharger
Old 07-30-2005 | 12:02 AM
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turbo, more power options, superchargers dont have upgrades, smaller pully is the only thing ive seen for them and the turbonestics kit gains more hp than the jackson racing s/c
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but isn't turboing it alot more work..
Old 07-30-2005 | 12:14 AM
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kind of, insyone will prolly explain it better tho, turbos can eb upgraded up you want more power, but turbo lag is gay, S/C are always going=instant power but not as upgradable. and if you want to be more diff, i dont know of a s/c h22 cl!
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thats kinda why i want to supercharge it cuz u never see supercharged h22s
Old 07-30-2005 | 12:28 AM
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i saw one rape an 02 maxima haha
Old 07-30-2005 | 12:31 AM
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nice
Old 07-30-2005 | 12:31 AM
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yep it was funny
Old 07-30-2005 | 12:32 AM
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my brother had a maxima but he sold/traded it for an blazer and 4 g's so he can make his 240 fast. hes a nissan guy talks shit about hondas alot, even tho and nsx would rape a 350z any day
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let him talk and turbo ur h22 but dont tell him, then own his nissan ass
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http://turboneticsinc.com/ts_applications.htm -for prelude hp gains-turbo

http://www.jacksonracing.com/Custome...udst_vjrsc.gif -dyno of S/C h22
Old 07-30-2005 | 12:41 AM
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let him talk and turbo ur h22 but dont tell him, then own his nissan ass
haha well consider i have 100 bucks saved and hes got 4 g's for a new motor and turbo kit and shit? ill wait a bit lol


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