ive been contemplating this H22 conversion for a long time now...but my mind keeps going back and forth! there are pro's and cons to the swap, but it takes alot of money, time and work. It costs like 3 g's to convert to and for that price u could get a good turbo setup, not to mention to get the motor in u gotta shave the motor mount down, change the ecu to OBD1 etc...but the H22 has more potential for power and im a true speed freak not to mention there are no H22 CL's in my area so id b unique...what do u guys think?

 

If i had a 2.2/2.3, I would do it. It opens up a world of opportunity, and make's sence esp if you have a high mileage motor.

 

yeah my motor has 116K on it...and it seems to be burning oil, so i thought the upgrade would b beneficial...all these guys complain about all these complications putting it in tho its kind of deters a person from tryin it..esp on a tight budget

 

well if you are a "speed freak" id either hurry up and get on that h22a (and a turbo kit) or get into another car...

i think if you ask around the h22 people are very happy with their decision

 

i have 2.2 cl and have zex 55 shot and for 400 dollars got same performance as 4000 for h22

 

well maybe at first, but say you wanted to make more power... it would quickly get more expensive, where as the h22 has many more available bolt ons and general aftermarket support

 

yeah but i don't have to refill my h22 all the time. its just there when i need it and it loves to work hard. not to mention that nos will fuck your shit up in the long run and cause damages that will make a swap or replacement inevitable. and who pays $4000 for a swap? i payed 2200 for mine and that included the tranny, ecu, shifter parts, etc.

 

Let's put it this way; If you plan on building it, it would be well worth it. If not, do not attempt it.

 

If you're a speed freak, take that 4k and buy a bike. Once you've been on a bike anything on 4 wheels seems slow. I've gotten next to Z06 vettes, given them 4 second head starts, and still chased em down and beat em to the next light. All with my stock 929. The power to weight ratio is insane. If you're motor is gonna blow, i'd say do it. Other than that, stay away IMO.

 

I had the same idea but then i got smart. why throw $3-4k more into my cl. im taking that $$$ and buying a new legacy gt. pimper, and more my style. the 250hp and 250tq turbo 2.5 boxter helps a little. the cl is old. im done with it. sad to say it but i can not wait to see some1 else drive it away and out of my life. ill miss it though.

 

I have a 3.0 and am considering it if this tranny goes

 

yea, if you squeeze 24/7

and who is paying 4K for an h22

 

Some guy is selling a complete jdm one here in the islands for $1800 complete.

 

u know.....i think the h22 is a great swap oppertunity and for performance, it cant be touched (unless u have a K series in tap), but since i dont like f-ing around with the inner workings of my CL and ending up with no car, ill just stick with my f23....i have 90k on my motor, and it still runs perfect. if i were looking for performance, look to the H22...if ur looking for a good everyday driving engine, look 2 the F23.
either way, you win

 

So you think it's not worth buying the engine then getting a shop to do the swap for you? Not too many people have a shop available to them and know how to install the new engine themselves.

 

get the H22, I couldn't be more happier with mines! 4g's for the swap, where the hell are you guys looking? $950 for the motor, $450 for install, but I did a whole bunch of other crap at the same time, so it was a lil more.

 

if my tranny goes out again im goin 6 speed. i do all my own work, so only price would be parts + time. i also stopped by dynamic speed lab here in brandon fla. and they told me it would be easy to make a tt setup for this motor, and it would take 15lbs of boost all day. tt setup was 1800 (just for all the ss piping)and 8g's if they did it all. and a single t setup was 1400 for all the ss piping and 6g's for everything. so realistically ~3g's and u got a nice tt setup for the 3.0. can u say hello 400+ hp. oh yea the h22 thing is a good idea too.

 

a k24 has also caught my eye, it'd be a fun swap

 

IMO single would be better for this motor


and I know these motors can handle boost in stock form, but 15lbs may be excessive.

 

edit: CLpower


don't be an ass

 

he ment, building up the motor

 

for a little less than the price of a h22a:

first hybrid h23head/f23 block dyno results...ended up costing him $400 but with all the parts he had lying around it should total maybe $1200 at most (not including installation)...there's alot of custom work but the results speak for themselves...more power and way more torque than the h22a

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1052811

yeah yeah all these people talking about reliability issues will come up..but as of i know he has no problems with it...but this is a 1 of a kind build and i have a feeling once all the bugs are worked out (if there are any) this swap will be quite popular among real sohc players

 

i done the swap and befor i was running zex 65 cia 2.25 headers vfac at 111000 and it feels about the same. 2.2 dyno about 167hp 197trq, but the need for speed, if you want real power h22 the f22 will run 5-6000g's to get 250 260. look 3500 for turbo that will get 200 210 and if you want more buld block heads standalone ecu thats alot money to get maybe 280 300.<soafter adding all those etra parts your over 8-10g's> h22 can safly run 280 330 whp so that aout 5-6g's

 

swap a hemi in there

 

My buddy is selling an H22 that is ported/polished, cams, valves, dc sports header, act clutch, and more. He pulled it from his civic a while ago and has been sitting in his garage. If you are interested Im sure he would give it up for a decent price. We could probably meet you about half way (about 2 hour drive each). Let me know if your interested

 

whats the price on it

 

He wanted $3000 a few months back, a few weeks ago he said he would sell it for $2100. If someone is interested Im sure he would drop it a little more. Let me know and Ill talk to him about it, or else I'll give you his number and you guys can discuss it.

 

Is the H23 SOHC?

 

H23 = 2.3 DOHC Non-VTEC

 

h23/h22=killer setup.

 

Then how did that guy do an H23/F23 hybrid?

 

d15/j32

 

h22+h22+jbweld=h44

 

D15/C32

 

You guy! I'm talking about this. Doesn't seem possible...

 

it is possbile but it is a huge bucket of problems and it would end up being more trouble than just doing the h22 right the first time.

 

he gave a pretty extensive writeup on it..why doubt him?

there's alot of machine work put into it..it's not a direct bolt in

oh btw guys i was putting a little more effort to read in detail and i believe on the dyno he was running some sort of cams....sorry about that...but still very impressive power numbers...not sure if a stock h23 will put out the same power though

 

Why do you doubt that it's possible? The guy who did it seems like a pretty reputable member on H-T from what I've seen when I browse there every now and then. I really don't get what you're confused about.

 

Because it's a DOHC head on a SOHC block...didn't know it could be done. It's not like I called him a lier. I don't know the guy or anything to base my opinion, so I didn't know he was a reputable member. I didn't read that thread, just saw that it existed.