Dblock0405

my j30 died on me. i have no clue what happened. driving home from atlantic city just got off my flight from vacation about half way to jackson, i hear funny noisies. i said oh crap. pretty soon, the car starts dieing out on me and i see alot of smoke. i pull over into a rest area and the engine is on fire. antifreeze everywhere. now the car is stuck in the mechanics with engine bay damage and no motor. so now im thinking what should i do to the car. put the same motor in or do a different swap. im just worried about how reliable it would be if i put a h22 or something. i drive the car to alot of places. any input on what i should do would be appreciated. also how hard would it be if i do the h22 or h23

South Jersey CL

theres a couple places in north jersey that do good H swaps, ask Daimfammus1 or 732xghost. i think its called the lab (?)

bRunCL

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I think the h series are harder to bolt into the 3.0 engine bays?

DaInFaMMuS1

you'll need a 2.3 subframe for you to do an h swap, it won't work with the 3.0 subframe. you'd need the motor, tranny, wiring harness from h22, 2.3 axles and hasport mounts amongst other things. its harder in a 3.0

suremang

should just j32 swap it with a 6spd

97BlackAckCL

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J32 will bolt right in

incredulous1

that would be a dope ass car!

Josh99CL

I like the 1g CL more than the 2g in the looks department. J32/6speed swap would be awesome.

South Jersey CL

are you nuts? the 2g is way hotter then the 1g.

j32/6spd and you're in business

97BlackAckCL

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Meh, 2G is too boxy for me, I love the look of the 1G CL too much, at least the exterior, I wish our interior looked like the 2nd gen

Gnate

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Anhedonia

i love the looks of our cars, both inside and out. although not sure how i feel about the slip and slide seats or disappointing performance.. j32 swap ftw.

scholtew

I started out with an ice teal 1997 3.0 CL and moved to my current 3.2 CL NBP. I miss the exterior styling of my old cl, but as far as ride comfort and interior the 1g cant hold a candle to the 3.2 imo. Plus my current car could blow the doors off my old 3.0

Dblock0405

well i was looking at the prices and they seem good. do u think it would be alot harder to swap it in. i dont know anything about the j series motors

1V4N

the 2nd gen is a real porker although the engine is hawt

good luck with whichever route you go, the 1st gen chassis is still the sexier looking one imho

davzilla

just swap in a j32 or j35

the h swap is not worth it imo, you have to swap everything. you'd also need, a/c, ps and brake lines. everything is backwards.

davzilla

oh yeah, h axles won't work in the 3.0 hubs, so you need 2.3/2.2 hubs as well or custom driveshafts. if it's a 97 3.0 you minus whale do the rotor over hub while you're at it.

Master Bill Flex

big block v12 ftw

shnee

Dblock0405

might as well do a j37. but im just thinking of how hard it would be to accomplish this. and if it will bolt up good.

davzilla

really? a big block v12, not just a v12, we need a big block? and what motor company makes a big block v12?

i realize you were kidding but that's just silly.

davzilla

Fixed, lol. it's probably really hard to wire, i'd imagine alot of extra's on the j37.

97BlackAckCL

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J37 swap is way more intense than the J32

Dblock0405

i think ima just run with the j32, minus whale since it shouldnt be tooo hard. my 1st gen would like be a cross breed. 1 and a half gen. but it would be cool to see done. ima look into it. maybe someone from jersey could come help me once i get the motor if i decide to do it.

spencer_homer

j32 would not just bolt in. it would work easiest, but by no means just bolt in. this is a complicated and expensive swap. thats going to take a lot of work to get going normally. just wanted to make sure you know its not just gonna fit like a glove.becasue thats what people are making it sound like

97BlackAckCL

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The block will bolt up to the stock mounts, and will bolt up to the j30 tranny

The wiring is the bitch, not dropping the engine in

davzilla

if the heads are still ok he could just swap in a j32/j35 short block or something no?

and just to clarify Dblock0405, you meant just replace the j32 and leave your j30 tranny in, not a 6spd swap right?

Master Bill Flex

TVR dawg, 7.7L V12 (small block is < 5.9L)

Dblock0405

i mean the j32 with the 6 spd would be dope and i wouldnt use my tranny because my trans slips from 1st to 2nd. but its super hard to find the tranny for the j32. i know this is gunna be difficult to do so i think ima push it aside and make it my project so maybe ill do something crazy. now im just pushing to a tl or a teg. but the cl would never leave. plus i dont really know anybody in my circle thats good with these motors and harnesses.

and u could just call me D or Donald

davzilla

oh right, tvr, nice.

that other part is incorrect though, the LS7 is a 7.0L small block. it's the physical size of the block, not so much the displacement. there's also 350cid big blocks and 350cid small blocks.

97BlackAckCL

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LS7

Dblock0405

ls7 in my uncles caprice. so fast.

GhettoNinja06

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It's settled. LS7 it is.

davzilla

In for pics of caprice with corvette Z06 swap

davzilla

it won't fit sidways, and i'm the only one crazy enough to do it the other way, mostly cause i know how, lol.

Miiike

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^ do ittt

davzilla

i made a whole thread about it like a year or so ago.

Miiike

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yeah I read that, I just think it would be cool to see done

Anhedonia

what the fuck, how come when i suggest an LS swap i get called for runing threads and yadda yadda, now people are openly discussing it!

98JDMCL

J32 w/tip!

Thats my dream if i fell into alittle mooulaaa!


Speaking of that there is a EG civic rocking a J30 in toronto LoL