go check honda-tech or some shit, im realy not wasteing my time searching for "proof" There IS NO SUCH THING AS A F22B dohc VTEC the F22b is the jdm version of our usdm h23a non vtec go search and you'll see. f22b dohc = no vtec

http://www.integra.orcon.net.nz/engines those are usdm codes,....the f22b is the same as the h23a

 

i knew the were non-vtec. ill check you might be right though. im sure ill get flamed like crazy over there for asking this question though.

 

ah yes, but your dad's the whackest.

 

Swappin in a motor with less displacement is dumb unless you're into road racing/drag racing etc... where you're limited to a certain amount of displacement OR you're just trying to be different.

The F20B might make 145 ft lbs of torque and 200 hp, but that's not until after you spun the damn thing all the way to 8000 rpm. You're going to want more low end grunt when you're talking about a car with the curb weight of the CL.

Civic's, Integra's and some Accords can get away with low torque motors. The H22 makes sence because you're making similar torque. An H23 VTEC motor would be fun, or even boring out an H22.

 

great point about the RPMS... what good is 200hp if you dont hit it till the 8000's...

 

well the F20B is in a Euro-R they have to weight almost as much as we do. and even the new Euro-R (TSX) come with a K20A and i know there heavy. there also slow to but there still faster than us.

 

fuck the F20B, the k-series frankenstein is where its at. k24a4 block bolted to a k20a block. supposedly 170hp to the wheels. and hasport all ready has a mount kid for the CD chassis which means it will fit in our cars aswell.

 

Of course it's faster, but you have to think about drivability too. Driving a heavy car with no torque is frustrating as hell. Or at least to me it is...

Don't quote me, but I think the Euro-R was given a 2.0 liter because Honda needed a car to compete in one the touring car series that are huge in Europe (again limited by 2.0 liters of displacement).

And the Euro-R is probably a good bit lighter than our CL's. Type-R's are always lightened in some form or another. ITR's are lighter than GSR's, CTR's are lighter than SiR's, NSX-R is lighter than all the other models of the NSX.

 

imo, if you strongly believe in something, do it.

dreaming is one thing. making that dream into a reality is another.

 

well lack of funds makes me a dreamer..

 

most dreamers though...find a way... i mean, nothing is imposible if you strive for it.

 

well i have a long time to get things done with my cars. im only 17 and this is my first car. ive accomplished more than i thought i ever would this car. with a 9 buck an hour job.

 

i am trying to find these mounts on hasports homepage and i am out of luck where did u see these?

 

in honda tuning they had a 95 accord with a k24a2 (TSX swap) with a 6MT using hasports new k series mounts in a accord. which should also work for a CL. it was only a small caption of that car at a car show. but i heard they already have an application out already for it.