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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 03:03 AM
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Complete Head Package?

Anybody have info on the complete head package on accordperformance.com? Work on the 2.3? What does send in your own cores mean?
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 08:16 AM
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waste of money, the core is the price that you get back when you send in the oem parts requested by them but you have to pay the core charge in the initial cost.. works for batterys, alternators, starters, and lot of parts on your car..
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
waste of money

i dont know about you, but i hate other people telling me how to spend my money.


what i think he meant to tell you was that no one we know has gotten this package and had a before/after dyno, perhaps if those claims were true about the gains then it would be a good deal.. as it is i think everyone is scared to put that much of their money out there for an unknown product.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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i didnt mean to tell him what to do i was speaking my opinions like everyone does in every other thread.. he can do whatever he wants obviously and he will.. i dont know about you buy money is a factor to me and when i spend that much money i would rather have started out with a newer motor with 195-220 hp instead of a top half rebuilt f22 with less hp (most likely)
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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I agree I don't really trust the site. Probably a pain in the ass. Thanx anyways guys
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 09:58 PM
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I talked to some guy named mike there. He told me that their head packages are done by Gude.
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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this has been posted a few times. someone on here has ordered it and is going to post dyno results after. forgot who it was. if it proves to be benificial( 40-50hp) I am going to look into it. I have been contemplating for a while now, but can never get up all the bread that I need. no one has tried it on the 2.x but I think it can do nothing but good
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Old Jan 15, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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No way can you get 40-50hp out of the 2.x. 4cyl SOHC = small gains. The 3.0s prob won't see this much gain, the 2.x *might* get 20hp at the crank from a full kit and cams, but that's only 15 or so at the wheels.

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i dont know about you, but i hate other people telling me how to spend my money.
Yea but this is basically telling him how to SAVE money. Just like in the 3.0 head/cam/etc/bs threads I say the same thing is - the gains per $ are small. You'd be better off to either put the large sum of cash for all this junk into either a better, faster car (or better modded) OR other nice stuff for this car if you want to keep it (stereo, etc). You really have to go all out on these parts everyone is talking about - meaning you can't just get a head job. You need to upgrade everything else as well and you still don't get that much power. It's a waste of money. Read thru the threads over the past year, everyone does all this junk to their cars, sees that it's still slow, old, etc, decides to sell to get a diff car, and loses mega bucks in the process.

The only thing right now I see that *might* get some good gains is what dre wants to do plus a s/c. His complete build up plus the blower might yeild some nice gains. But then you still have the $$ issue as all that is prob about $10K. $10K + CL = 6spd 03 CL or w/e.
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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.....The only thing right now I see that *might* get some good gains is what dre wants to do......


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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by proaudio22
No way can you get 40-50hp out of the 2.x. 4cyl SOHC = small gains. The 3.0s prob won't see this much gain, the 2.x *might* get 20hp at the crank from a full kit and cams, but that's only 15 or so at the wheels.


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yeah, we've already had this discussion like a month ago right?
until the person posts their results, no one knows what will happen to the 2.xs
when this package is done. you get everything you need to make power, all
you would have to add is more spark.(and fuel) that should produce a little more than just 20hp.... not the worst thing you could spend money on, IMO. plus it keeps your ride N/A. which= more reliabiltity than forced induction.
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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dunno why nobody wants to build the fseries on this site..oh well...what are your plans for the car?

imo, you might be better off going to a trusted local shop and getting the headwork done as far as port and polish..angled valve jobs or whatever you want depending on goals...if a problem occurs or plans change there will be easier ways to contact the shop and quicker turn around response...i checked out the site you were looking at and they don't give any specifics as far as the cam profile they are using and whatnot...remember, if they are using a wild cam and you are still at stock compression it'll hurt your gains...also might be cheaper if you sort together parts from various sites..but it's your choice...

also, if you're interested in getting a easy start on the block, here is a couple parts you might find helpful
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1108476

i posted a link concerning getting a cam regrind during one of the discussions if you feel like looking that up

check out www.accordinglydone.com and do a search there as well..there's been many experiments and other things people have tried on the fseries

what i suggest you looking at is the port geometry comparisons between the b2 head and a6 head and which one is better

goodluck with your build
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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no one will build a f22.. nobody wants to be the trial puppy...
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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here. I found it. the guys name is beefy3.0(or something like that. he says he already ordered it.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...t=head+package
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shineynitelite
no one will build a f22.. nobody wants to be the trial puppy...
only on this forum
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 05:21 PM
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well yeah.. i noticed that there are way more with h22 swaps on the accord forums.. wayy more.. its almost common
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Old Jan 16, 2005 | 10:57 PM
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yea h22a swaps are common...but they also don't see more than a few boltons...and then there's also a huge amount of boosted fseries as well...and the small handful that really build the motors n/a...oh well =)
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 03:26 AM
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only on this forum

why not just go the the h22, better aftermarket support.


still... the cl isnt a race car
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Hobo
perhaps if those claims were true about the gains then it would be a good deal..

stick with teh building the f22 idea.. it could end up just as powerful as the h22 initially..
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Old Jan 17, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Hobo
why not just go the the h22, better aftermarket support.


still... the cl isnt a race car
this is always the case with the h22a...but how many people actually use the larger aftermarket support? and the f22 has an ample amount for a pretty wild build...but it's not my money and my preferences
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