The 3.0 Is Slow!!

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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The 3.0 Is Slow!!

AHH TODAY SUCKED! I lowered my tire pressure, removed all extra weight, and I get there and the first run i make 16.1. I thought hey not bad for a first run, but then after that I kept getting slower, i allowed plenty of cooling time and still ran bad. Then I tried changing throttle points on my vafc, ran worse, so then I put it back, reset my ecu, and ran 16.3. The kicker of them all is I ran against a 3.0 v6 accord and he ran 16.07 and all he had was an intake! GOD this sucks! I wish I woulda had my n20 installed! O well!
I am gonna get it tuned soon so hopefully it'll help
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 02:36 PM
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wow i didnt know that they were that slow! i thought mye runnin gin the mid 15s!
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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holy shit! that is slow! why do all the 3.0 guys think they are so much faster than the 2.X 5spds.? I guarantee a well driven 2.3 with your mods would be in the high 15's.

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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 03:45 PM
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yea i have noticed that a lot of guys with a 3.0 think that they are faster than the 5 speeds. I think with the right mods a 5 speed will be right there with the 3.0s but int he end the 3.0s 50 extra hp takes over! only if the 3.0 came in a 6 speed! Then there is no comparison at all!
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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yeah my fastest was 16.1 at 88mph all i have a cai, 98 3.0cl
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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my fastest w/ CAI and pulleys was 15.6 if I remember correctly


Highest times were 16.0X but it was around 100 out
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 05:30 PM
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Yeah, it would be nice if we could pull sub 15's, haha.

One thing I always wondered is why the hell do all the car stats sites show the 97 3.0 as 7.8 0-60 and a quarter mile of 16.1 +- 1 while they all have the 99 3.0 running a 7.3 and a quarter mile 15.5 +- 2 ? I thought they were the same car.

Maybe a better tranny can help by bringing more hp to the wheels.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Originally posted by phrocker
Yeah, it would be nice if we could pull sub 15's, haha.

One thing I always wondered is why the hell do all the car stats sites show the 97 3.0 as 7.8 0-60 and a quarter mile of 16.1 +- 1 while they all have the 99 3.0 running a 7.3 and a quarter mile 15.5 +- 2 ? I thought they were the same car.

Maybe a better tranny can help by bringing more hp to the wheels.
wow! Maybe the 97 has the older accord V6 motor. They changed the 2.2 to the 2.3 that year, maybe they switched the v6 too. (the 94-97 av6 were not as powerful 170hp I believe)
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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I've NEVER lost to a 2.X 5-speed running stock for stock!

My fastest was a 15.8 with a short ram. The fastest 2.X that day (CLTypeR) ran a 15.8 but he had headers, exhaust, intake, and VAFC, and an INCREDIBLE launch--he could really launch his CL.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by dustbuster4
I've NEVER lost to a 2.X 5-speed!

My fastest was a 15.8 with a short ram. The fastest 2.X that day ran a 15.8 but he had headers, exhaust, intake, and VAFC.
You don't COUNT!!!
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:22 PM
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Originally posted by dustbuster4
EDITED

I've NEVER lost to a 2.X 5-speed running stock for stock!

My fastest was a 15.8 with a short ram. The fastest 2.X that day (CLTypeR) ran a 15.8 but he had headers, exhaust, intake, and VAFC, and an INCREDIBLE launch--he could really launch his CL.
You've never lost to a 2.3 because you don't run 16's.
I personally have never beaten a 3.0 in my 2.3 and I know they are faster, I just can't believe he couldn't break 16. I lost to my friends dads stock one and I had e/i/. We raced till about 100 tho. Thats the only CL i've ever gotten to race

I'm going to the track this friday, but it's only the 1/8th I'll post some times for sure tho.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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My best time was a 15.8 with a CAI and some nice cool weather, a speaker box in the trunk, and some powerbreaking from a start in D3.

Now that I have headers, exhaust and a real AEM CAI, I want to hit the track and see if I can get mid to low 15's.

And bring any 2.X my way, he may hang with me for the early run, but them 200+ HP will walk him down PDQ!
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by dajuice27
My best time was a 15.8 with a CAI and some nice cool weather, a speaker box in the trunk, and some powerbreaking from a start in D3.

Now that I have headers, exhaust and a real AEM CAI, I want to hit the track and see if I can get mid to low 15's.

And bring any 2.X my way, he may hang with me for the early run, but them 200+ HP will walk him down PDQ!
Any 2.x? :shakehd:

Good luck at the track with your new mods!
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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My best time with a 2.3 with just i/e was 16.7.

That was with my system and on 18's

before I ran 17.00 with 35% thread on stock tires CAI and a system.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by SooDARK
wow! Maybe the 97 has the older accord V6 motor. They changed the 2.2 to the 2.3 that year, maybe they switched the v6 too. (the 94-97 av6 were not as powerful 170hp I believe)

no it's all the same
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by sarlacc23
You don't COUNT!!!

sure he does, because he's not talking about the car being on the bottle


I think the 2.X's can be strong, but given the same mods the 3.0 will win.
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by SooDARK
Any 2.x? :shakehd:

Good luck at the track with your new mods!

bring me any 2.X w/ equal mods and we'll see what happens. You may get me on the launch but it'll be over after 60
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Originally posted by CLpower
bring me any 2.X w/ equal mods and we'll see what happens. You may get me on the launch but it'll be over after 60
I'm not talking about me! He said any 2.x. How about niedejb or D98. See if you get them after 60

I know a 3.0 will beat a 2.3 in the 1/4 with equal mods. If it wouldn't, that would be sad!

Watch out in that 1/8th tho!:P
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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Originally posted by SooDARK
I'm not talking about me! He said any 2.x. How about niedejb or D98. See if you get them after 60

I know a 3.0 will beat a 2.3 in the 1/4 with equal mods. If it wouldn't, that would be sad!

Watch out in that 1/8th tho!:P

you are just blowing it out of proportion, of course a turbo will make the equation much different. Bring me any non-FI or major internal work 2.3 F series motor and we'll see what will happen
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Old Sep 6, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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you are just blowing it out of proportion, of course a turbo will make the equation much different. Bring me any non-FI or major internal work 2.3 F series motor and we'll see what will happen
Yeah I know.
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