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Glorified Honda NOT. See thread y NOT
1) More Power: 206 hp vs 185 for 4 cyl, 290 hp vs 278 for 6 cyl
2) Better Trans: 8 sp DCT w/ TC vs CVT for 4 cyl, 9 sp vs 6 sp for 6 cyl
3) Bigger Brakes front and rear (~ 1") for both 4 & 6 cyl
4) Superior Sound System: ELS 5.1 vs regular stereo on Tech & above models
5) Longer warranty: 50,000 miles vs 36,000 miles, 4 years vs 3 years
6) Superior Lighting: LED headlamps on vs halogen except their hybrid Accord
7) PAWS or SH-AWD vs nothing comparable
8) Wider track front and rear for better handling
9) Larger 225 tires for better handling vs 215
10) Better navigation that you can input addresses direct vs steps
I am sure I am missing many other advantages. I have had 3 Honda models and now on my 3rd Acura. Would not go back.
2) Better Trans: 8 sp DCT w/ TC vs CVT for 4 cyl, 9 sp vs 6 sp for 6 cyl
3) Bigger Brakes front and rear (~ 1") for both 4 & 6 cyl
4) Superior Sound System: ELS 5.1 vs regular stereo on Tech & above models
5) Longer warranty: 50,000 miles vs 36,000 miles, 4 years vs 3 years
6) Superior Lighting: LED headlamps on vs halogen except their hybrid Accord
7) PAWS or SH-AWD vs nothing comparable
8) Wider track front and rear for better handling
9) Larger 225 tires for better handling vs 215
10) Better navigation that you can input addresses direct vs steps
I am sure I am missing many other advantages. I have had 3 Honda models and now on my 3rd Acura. Would not go back.
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6) The top of the line gasoline version of the Accord (Touring) also has LED headlamps. Just some friendly nitpicking. Agreed on all points though.
Side note: as far as lighting is concerned, luxury brand or not, I think it's high time that we move away from halogen/incandescent bulbs completely. LEDs are highly efficient, last way longer (will outlive the car), and in most cases take up less space will providing more light.
Side note: as far as lighting is concerned, luxury brand or not, I think it's high time that we move away from halogen/incandescent bulbs completely. LEDs are highly efficient, last way longer (will outlive the car), and in most cases take up less space will providing more light.
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4. The ELS is so far superior to the Accord EX-L system. I popped in the same DTS disc of Toy Matinee into the Accrod that I played in the TLX.. EWWWWWW!! The TLX sounded like I was sitting a world of sweet music hearing every little nuance.... the Accord sounded like I was in a tin can. Granted that was just a comparison of DTS which I don't think the Accord properly decodes still... after listening to the TLX then going back to my Accord... 
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1) More Power: 206 hp vs 185 for 4 cyl, 290 hp vs 278 for 6 cyl
2) Better Trans: 8 sp DCT w/ TC vs CVT for 4 cyl, 9 sp vs 6 sp for 6 cyl
3) Bigger Brakes front and rear (~ 1") for both 4 & 6 cyl
4) Superior Sound System: ELS 5.1 vs regular stereo on Tech & above models
5) Longer warranty: 50,000 miles vs 36,000 miles, 4 years vs 3 years
6) Superior Lighting: LED headlamps on vs halogen except their hybrid Accord
7) PAWS or SH-AWD vs nothing comparable
8) Wider track front and rear for better handling
9) Larger 225 tires for better handling vs 215
10) Better navigation that you can input addresses direct vs steps
I am sure I am missing many other advantages. I have had 3 Honda models and now on my 3rd Acura. Would not go back.
2) Better Trans: 8 sp DCT w/ TC vs CVT for 4 cyl, 9 sp vs 6 sp for 6 cyl
3) Bigger Brakes front and rear (~ 1") for both 4 & 6 cyl
4) Superior Sound System: ELS 5.1 vs regular stereo on Tech & above models
5) Longer warranty: 50,000 miles vs 36,000 miles, 4 years vs 3 years
6) Superior Lighting: LED headlamps on vs halogen except their hybrid Accord
7) PAWS or SH-AWD vs nothing comparable
8) Wider track front and rear for better handling
9) Larger 225 tires for better handling vs 215
10) Better navigation that you can input addresses direct vs steps
I am sure I am missing many other advantages. I have had 3 Honda models and now on my 3rd Acura. Would not go back.
Large families who need space will buy an Accord no matter what.
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I own a '13 EX-L Accord and drove a TLX V6 FWD this morning. It's truly another class or two up in refinement. Road noise and suspension refinement alone puts it in that category.
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Now as for the TLX being defined as a comnpact as enchantedsky said..? That doesn't seem right to me
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4. The ELS is so far superior to the Accord EX-L system. I popped in the same DTS disc of Toy Matinee into the Accrod that I played in the TLX.. EWWWWWW!! The TLX sounded like I was sitting a world of sweet music hearing every little nuance.... the Accord sounded like I was in a tin can. Granted that was just a comparison of DTS which I don't think the Accord properly decodes still... after listening to the TLX then going back to my Accord...
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The suspension isn't floaty at all. Firm but smooths the rough parts of the road out, even at slower speeds. Very little lean in corners. Decent road feel, it always felt planted and secure during hilly terrain.
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Note that I'm not disagreeing with you. Before I shelled out money for my 2013 TL SH-AWD, I extensively test drove a 2013 Accord Touring, so I appreciate what Acura has to offer. Just playing Devil's Advocate here:
Not disagreeing, but how much of the HP gain is because of premium gas?
The CVT is optimal for MPGs. This is a priority for the Accord's market segment, but less so for Acura (because nobody "needs" an Acura).
Yes. The ultimate measure will be if the Acura's rotors warped just as easily as the Accord's. Nothing irritations a mainstream owner like pulsating brake pedals, which Acuras are known for as much as Hondas.
Yes, love the ELS system!
Yes, but higher maintenance and repair costs for the same items. Also, Acura's level of service in dealerships is much closer to Honda than Lexus.
Accord Touring has LED lights, with fog lamps.
Definitely. In my view, this is the primary reason for owning an Acura.
How much of this is due to the wider tires?
The 4G TL has 245 tires, so there used to be a much bigger difference between Acura and Honda. The 225 tires on the TLX reduces the gap between Honda and Acura quite a bit.
The dual screens on the current generation Accord is pretty clunky. Imagine a cheap cell phone where every command is buried behind another screen. Every time you want to make a simple change, instead of a single button press, you need to wade through 2 or 3 laggy screens.
I don't disagree. Acura's are for those who want to "like" their cars. Honda's are for those who "need" an appliance. There is a time and place for both, even in the same household.
1) More Power: 206 hp vs 185 for 4 cyl, 290 hp vs 278 for 6 cyl
2) Better Trans: 8 sp DCT w/ TC vs CVT for 4 cyl, 9 sp vs 6 sp for 6 cyl
3) Bigger Brakes front and rear (~ 1") for both 4 & 6 cyl
4) Superior Sound System: ELS 5.1 vs regular stereo on Tech & above models
5) Longer warranty: 50,000 miles vs 36,000 miles, 4 years vs 3 years
6) Superior Lighting: LED headlamps on vs halogen except their hybrid Accord
7) PAWS or SH-AWD vs nothing comparable
8) Wider track front and rear for better handling
9) Larger 225 tires for better handling vs 215
10) Better navigation that you can input addresses direct vs steps
I am sure I am missing many other advantages. I have had 3 Honda models and now on my 3rd Acura. Would not go back.
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It's 93 cubic feet inside with a 14 cubic ft trunk. So 107 combined cubic ft. The EPA defines a compact as any vehicle with a combined interior space measurement between 100 and 109 cubic ft.
The IS250 is at 101 (90/11).
The A4 is at 103 (91/12).
The TLX is at 107 (93/14).
The 3 series is at 109 (96/13).
For comparison the ILX is at 101 (89/12). The RLX is at 117 (102/15).
As several people have pointed out - the usable space in the TLX makes it feel a bit bigger than the numbers say it is - the "tandem spacing" and long wheelbase help.
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Note that I'm not disagreeing with you. Before I shelled out money for my 2013 TL SH-AWD, I extensively test drove a 2013 Accord Touring, so I appreciate what Acura has to offer. Just playing Devil's Advocate here:
Not disagreeing, but how much of the HP gain is because of premium gas?
The CVT is optimal for MPGs. This is a priority for the Accord's market segment, but less so for Acura (because nobody "needs" an Acura).
Yes. The ultimate measure will be if the Acura's rotors warped just as easily as the Accord's. Nothing irritations a mainstream owner like pulsating brake pedals, which Acuras are known for as much as Hondas.
Yes, love the ELS system!
Yes, but higher maintenance and repair costs for the same items. Also, Acura's level of service in dealerships is much closer to Honda than Lexus.
Accord Touring has LED lights, with fog lamps.
Definitely. In my view, this is the primary reason for owning an Acura.
How much of this is due to the wider tires?
The 4G TL has 245 tires, so there used to be a much bigger difference between Acura and Honda. The 225 tires on the TLX reduces the gap between Honda and Acura quite a bit.
The dual screens on the current generation Accord is pretty clunky. Imagine a cheap cell phone where every command is buried behind another screen. Every time you want to make a simple change, instead of a single button press, you need to wade through 2 or 3 laggy screens.
I don't disagree. Acura's are for those who want to "like" their cars. Honda's are for those who "need" an appliance. There is a time and place for both, even in the same household.
Not disagreeing, but how much of the HP gain is because of premium gas?
The CVT is optimal for MPGs. This is a priority for the Accord's market segment, but less so for Acura (because nobody "needs" an Acura).
Yes. The ultimate measure will be if the Acura's rotors warped just as easily as the Accord's. Nothing irritations a mainstream owner like pulsating brake pedals, which Acuras are known for as much as Hondas.
Yes, love the ELS system!
Yes, but higher maintenance and repair costs for the same items. Also, Acura's level of service in dealerships is much closer to Honda than Lexus.
Accord Touring has LED lights, with fog lamps.
Definitely. In my view, this is the primary reason for owning an Acura.
How much of this is due to the wider tires?
The 4G TL has 245 tires, so there used to be a much bigger difference between Acura and Honda. The 225 tires on the TLX reduces the gap between Honda and Acura quite a bit.
The dual screens on the current generation Accord is pretty clunky. Imagine a cheap cell phone where every command is buried behind another screen. Every time you want to make a simple change, instead of a single button press, you need to wade through 2 or 3 laggy screens.
I don't disagree. Acura's are for those who want to "like" their cars. Honda's are for those who "need" an appliance. There is a time and place for both, even in the same household.
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Not at my Acura dealership (Silicon Valley area). Any service/maintenance that takes more than half a day, they provide a loaner car for. Otherwise, I'm free to wait or hop onto one of their courtesy shuttles.
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The Accord is more similar in size to the Acura RLX.
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Note that I'm not disagreeing with you. Before I shelled out money for my 2013 TL SH-AWD, I extensively test drove a 2013 Accord Touring, so I appreciate what Acura has to offer. Just playing Devil's Advocate here:
Not disagreeing, but how much of the HP gain is because of premium gas?
The CVT is optimal for MPGs. This is a priority for the Accord's market segment, but less so for Acura (because nobody "needs" an Acura).
Yes. The ultimate measure will be if the Acura's rotors warped just as easily as the Accord's. Nothing irritations a mainstream owner like pulsating brake pedals, which Acuras are known for as much as Hondas.
Yes, love the ELS system!
Yes, but higher maintenance and repair costs for the same items. Also, Acura's level of service in dealerships is much closer to Honda than Lexus.
Accord Touring has LED lights, with fog lamps.
Definitely. In my view, this is the primary reason for owning an Acura.
How much of this is due to the wider tires?
The 4G TL has 245 tires, so there used to be a much bigger difference between Acura and Honda. The 225 tires on the TLX reduces the gap between Honda and Acura quite a bit.
The dual screens on the current generation Accord is pretty clunky. Imagine a cheap cell phone where every command is buried behind another screen. Every time you want to make a simple change, instead of a single button press, you need to wade through 2 or 3 laggy screens.
I don't disagree. Acura's are for those who want to "like" their cars. Honda's are for those who "need" an appliance. There is a time and place for both, even in the same household.
Not disagreeing, but how much of the HP gain is because of premium gas?
The CVT is optimal for MPGs. This is a priority for the Accord's market segment, but less so for Acura (because nobody "needs" an Acura).
Yes. The ultimate measure will be if the Acura's rotors warped just as easily as the Accord's. Nothing irritations a mainstream owner like pulsating brake pedals, which Acuras are known for as much as Hondas.
Yes, love the ELS system!
Yes, but higher maintenance and repair costs for the same items. Also, Acura's level of service in dealerships is much closer to Honda than Lexus.
Accord Touring has LED lights, with fog lamps.
Definitely. In my view, this is the primary reason for owning an Acura.
How much of this is due to the wider tires?
The 4G TL has 245 tires, so there used to be a much bigger difference between Acura and Honda. The 225 tires on the TLX reduces the gap between Honda and Acura quite a bit.
The dual screens on the current generation Accord is pretty clunky. Imagine a cheap cell phone where every command is buried behind another screen. Every time you want to make a simple change, instead of a single button press, you need to wade through 2 or 3 laggy screens.
I don't disagree. Acura's are for those who want to "like" their cars. Honda's are for those who "need" an appliance. There is a time and place for both, even in the same household.
2) True, but the 8 speed transforms the driving experience into another league.
3) I've had 7 Hondas (Probably #8 and #9 soon) and only the Odyssey's had warped rotors.
4) Agreed, the sound system is amazing.
5) All Hondas and Acuras use the same 0W20 oil, and most Honda dealers will service your Acura, so I don't think this is a valid concern. Even though my Honda dealer provides a service loaner, Acura service is just better. I've also heard Acura generally closer to Lexus in the service department, too.
6) So? I'm sure the TLX's lights are still better.
7) Agreed
8) Not much.
9) So? What buyer in this segment cares about all that?
10) Probably, maybe Acura has improved this system since the Accord came out? I doubt it though.
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TLX Specs:
Wheelbase 109.3 in (2775 mm)
Length 190.3 in (4832 mm)
Height 57.0 in (1447 mm)
Width 73.0 in (1853 mm)
2014 Accord Specs:
Wheelbase (in) 109.3
Length (in) 191.4
Height (in) 57.7
Width (in) 72.8
TL Specs:
Wheelbase 109.3 in (2775 mm)
Length 194.0 in (4928 mm)
Height 57.2 in (1452 mm)
Width 74.0 in (1880 mm)
RLX:
Wheelbase 112.2 in (2850 mm)
Length 196.1 in (4982 mm)
Height 57.7 in (1465 mm)
Width 74.4 in (1890 mm)
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One thing that does tell a slightly different story is the interior volume.
2014 Honda Accord - 119 cu. ft. (103.2 cu. ft. interior)
2014 Acura RLX - 116.8 cu. ft. (102.1 cu. ft. interior)
2015 Acura TLX - 106.5/107.6 cu. ft. (93.3 cu. ft. interior) 2 numbers - Advance has a larger trunk.
2014 Acura TL - 110.7 cu. ft. (98.2 cu. ft. interior)
I know Acura has done some things to make the TLX feel bigger, but I think the Accord is still quite a bit bigger, maybe not in external dimensions but certainly inside - it is even a little bigger than the RLX.
2014 Honda Accord - 119 cu. ft. (103.2 cu. ft. interior)
2014 Acura RLX - 116.8 cu. ft. (102.1 cu. ft. interior)
2015 Acura TLX - 106.5/107.6 cu. ft. (93.3 cu. ft. interior) 2 numbers - Advance has a larger trunk.
2014 Acura TL - 110.7 cu. ft. (98.2 cu. ft. interior)
I know Acura has done some things to make the TLX feel bigger, but I think the Accord is still quite a bit bigger, maybe not in external dimensions but certainly inside - it is even a little bigger than the RLX.
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6) The top of the line gasoline version of the Accord (Touring) also has LED headlamps. Just some friendly nitpicking. Agreed on all points though.
Side note: as far as lighting is concerned, luxury brand or not, I think it's high time that we move away from halogen/incandescent bulbs completely. LEDs are highly efficient, last way longer (will outlive the car), and in most cases take up less space will providing more light.
Side note: as far as lighting is concerned, luxury brand or not, I think it's high time that we move away from halogen/incandescent bulbs completely. LEDs are highly efficient, last way longer (will outlive the car), and in most cases take up less space will providing more light.
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One thing that does tell a slightly different story is the interior volume.
2014 Honda Accord - 119 cu. ft. (103.2 cu. ft. interior)
2014 Acura RLX - 116.8 cu. ft. (102.1 cu. ft. interior)
2015 Acura TLX - 106.5/107.6 cu. ft. (93.3 cu. ft. interior) 2 numbers - Advance has a larger trunk.
2014 Acura TL - 110.7 cu. ft. (98.2 cu. ft. interior)
I know Acura has done some things to make the TLX feel bigger, but I think the Accord is still quite a bit bigger, maybe not in external dimensions but certainly inside - it is even a little bigger than the RLX.
2014 Honda Accord - 119 cu. ft. (103.2 cu. ft. interior)
2014 Acura RLX - 116.8 cu. ft. (102.1 cu. ft. interior)
2015 Acura TLX - 106.5/107.6 cu. ft. (93.3 cu. ft. interior) 2 numbers - Advance has a larger trunk.
2014 Acura TL - 110.7 cu. ft. (98.2 cu. ft. interior)
I know Acura has done some things to make the TLX feel bigger, but I think the Accord is still quite a bit bigger, maybe not in external dimensions but certainly inside - it is even a little bigger than the RLX.
Toyota Prius Hatchback - 93.7 cu. ft. interior
Toyota Corolla - 97.5 cu. ft. interior
Toyota Camry - 102.7 cu. ft. interior
Honda Civic - 94.6 cu. ft. interior
Infiniti Q50 (w/ moonroof) - 100.0 cu. ft. interior
My point? The TLX is indeed a compact (as opposed to midsize) car, with the pros and cons associated with it. Let's recognize it as such.
The only people who have called TLs glorified Accords are those who haven't owned them. I don't think anyone around here is calling the new TLX a glorified Accord either. That is so 1998.
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Then I'm interested in driving one. I am continually amazed at how quiet and refined our Accord is for a 24K car.
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1) More Power: 206 hp vs 185 for 4 cyl, 290 hp vs 278 for 6 cyl
2) Better Trans: 8 sp DCT w/ TC vs CVT for 4 cyl, 9 sp vs 6 sp for 6 cyl
3) Bigger Brakes front and rear (~ 1") for both 4 & 6 cyl
4) Superior Sound System: ELS 5.1 vs regular stereo on Tech & above models
5) Longer warranty: 50,000 miles vs 36,000 miles, 4 years vs 3 years
6) Superior Lighting: LED headlamps on vs halogen except their hybrid Accord
7) PAWS or SH-AWD vs nothing comparable
8) Wider track front and rear for better handling
9) Larger 225 tires for better handling vs 215
10) Better navigation that you can input addresses direct vs steps
I am sure I am missing many other advantages. I have had 3 Honda models and now on my 3rd Acura. Would not go back.
2) Better Trans: 8 sp DCT w/ TC vs CVT for 4 cyl, 9 sp vs 6 sp for 6 cyl
3) Bigger Brakes front and rear (~ 1") for both 4 & 6 cyl
4) Superior Sound System: ELS 5.1 vs regular stereo on Tech & above models
5) Longer warranty: 50,000 miles vs 36,000 miles, 4 years vs 3 years
6) Superior Lighting: LED headlamps on vs halogen except their hybrid Accord
7) PAWS or SH-AWD vs nothing comparable
8) Wider track front and rear for better handling
9) Larger 225 tires for better handling vs 215
10) Better navigation that you can input addresses direct vs steps
I am sure I am missing many other advantages. I have had 3 Honda models and now on my 3rd Acura. Would not go back.
SH-AWD is the primary reason I'd go with Acura as it isn't available on Honda's and people say it makes Acura's drive less like FWD vehicles.
If SH-AWD and the DCT or the ZF tranny was on the Honda Accord (since many complain about the droning CVT and judder), I'd gladly take that vehicle over the TLX as my wife and my' daily driver as it would mean more than $10k savings.
I am sure the TLX is a much nicer car but I can live without the additional niceties for a significant chunk of savings.
But because I will go for the TLX when my daughter is of driving age (she is almost 14), I won't scrimp because there are some extra safety features that can help keep her safer on the road (at the very least SH-AWD). And there is no putting a price on my child's safety.
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As I posted previously, I'm comparing the 2013 Accord Touring to the 2013 TL SH-AWD Tech.
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But the funny thing I noticed in Canada is that a 2012 TL SH-AWD can be had for $23-24k yet a 2012 Accord I4 is still selling for around $17k.
Seems 6-cylinder and up cars take a big hit in resale values since would be used car buyers want fuel thrifty vehicles. Is it also the same way in the States?
Good enough for me as I will buy a TLX used, in case Elon Musk cannot come up with the Tesla Gen III for $35k in 2017.
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And we are in the Houston area so it is probably more competitive
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Sterling McCall gives loaners. They've treated me great, always
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Wife has a '13 Accord EX-L. Nice car. I rent a lot of cars because I travel for work a lot. After being in my fair share of Camrys, Fusions, Malibus, Passats, and a host of others, getting back into my wife's Accord you notice what really matters to Honda (engineering, careful build, suspension).
I have a '13 TL SH AWD Advance. AS much as I like the wife's Accord, there is a pretty big jump in refinement, handling, power, features, material quality, etc between the two. Even my wife will admit this.
Test drove a '14 TLX V6 Advance. I did notice it's exterior is a bit smaller than the 4G TL, but you'd be hard pressed to feel it on the inside. Over my 4G, the materials are better inside. Tech, obviously is way ahead of my 4G TL. Lane assist, advanced cruise, pushbutton trans, etc. Wood instead of (very good) metalicized plastic. Much more refined suspension. Much better road and noise isolation. And, as good as SH AWD is (and it's better than what I had in my Audi Quattro), P-AWS ain't no joke. I might forgo SH AWD this time around because P-AWS is that good.
I have a '13 TL SH AWD Advance. AS much as I like the wife's Accord, there is a pretty big jump in refinement, handling, power, features, material quality, etc between the two. Even my wife will admit this.
Test drove a '14 TLX V6 Advance. I did notice it's exterior is a bit smaller than the 4G TL, but you'd be hard pressed to feel it on the inside. Over my 4G, the materials are better inside. Tech, obviously is way ahead of my 4G TL. Lane assist, advanced cruise, pushbutton trans, etc. Wood instead of (very good) metalicized plastic. Much more refined suspension. Much better road and noise isolation. And, as good as SH AWD is (and it's better than what I had in my Audi Quattro), P-AWS ain't no joke. I might forgo SH AWD this time around because P-AWS is that good.
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FWIW my Honda Odyssey Touring Elite is the Acura of minivans. It costs as much as a TLX SH-AWD Advance and is very impressive in many ways. The entertainment options are Acura grade, and the little details are as well. Non Touring or Touring Elite models probably would be considered Hondas if Acura wasn't worried about having a van in the brand. I have a loader Odyssey base model right now, and it's like a completely different vehicle!
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Yes, yes, I know that extended warranties and maintenance plans are not necessarily financially sound investments, but something was in the water the day I bought my car and I wasn't thinking straight
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Actually, every once in a while includes every morning, when I drop them off for school. And yes, I often hear of them complaining that my 4G TL is the "small" car in the family.
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Super lame.
The kids like riding in my A6, and there's plenty of space even smaller cars for kids. The other day we put a massive rear facing seat in the back of my car and had the other two in there (was tight but worked).
The real issue for people with kids are the rear facing car seats for 0-2 years old. They can be huge. In my TSX, we couldn't put the carrier in the middle or neither of us could sit up there, leaving only the passenger side in the rear. It wasn't safe though, so we didn't do it: The front passenger is soooo close to the dash that they're almost crushed. Worth keeping in mind that those couple inches can make a difference with little ones in big seats.
It would be fun to have the Acura of minivans and an Acura again heh
The real issue for people with kids are the rear facing car seats for 0-2 years old. They can be huge. In my TSX, we couldn't put the carrier in the middle or neither of us could sit up there, leaving only the passenger side in the rear. It wasn't safe though, so we didn't do it: The front passenger is soooo close to the dash that they're almost crushed. Worth keeping in mind that those couple inches can make a difference with little ones in big seats.
It would be fun to have the Acura of minivans and an Acura again heh
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My local dealership gives me one for something as insignificant as brake pad changes if they have the loaners (they usually do)
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From: Miami, FL
The dealer I frequent only provides a loaner if the service cost is over a certain threshold. $200 or $250 if I remember correctly. The last time I went was for a new key...$80 for the key + $90 for programming, and the time before that was for a 1x3. $95.
I used to get loaners from my local dealer when my preferred SA worked there for oil changes. Now that he's gone, I doubt I will get one for something as simple as an oil change.
On topic- isn't Acura Roadside Assistance better as well?
Sure they do. Albeit, it is up to the specific dealer on when and under what conditions to give them out.
On topic- isn't Acura Roadside Assistance better as well?
Sure they do. Albeit, it is up to the specific dealer on when and under what conditions to give them out.