This really sucks!! I just got finished installing a new clutch and leightweight flywheel. I started the car and sounded bad when I started it, but runs good and clutch works perfectly as it should. So I only started it a few times under 10 did not even drive it to work today until I could check it out. So when I got home today I pulled the starter and and checked the ring gear on the flywheel........the pics speak for them selfs.

USED OEM clutch and flywheel,


OEM Starter.


The new flywheel ring gear.





The difference is obvious, I am a little upset as you can immagine.

 

Damn that sucks dude, sorry to see that.

 

Why aren't you telling us what the aftermarket clutch/flywheel combo is?

 

+1.

I haven't hear a SINGLE success story with aftermarket clutches for our cars, NOT EVEN ONE.

You should go back to OEM.

 

I still have no idea what's wrong still LOL - dam it for being a car noob..

 

Well it is a Aasco Motorsports 12lb. flywheel with exedy stage 1 clutch. Who knows how long they would last if the ring gear was correct. I know it will eat up my starter and the ring gear will be shot after a month of starting it. So needless to say I am calling the manufacture today and I think they should send me a new one NOW! I feel like they need to pay for my time or the Acura bill if I have to take it up there. That is just how I feel a good company would right a wrong like this. It is not like I installed it the wrong way the part was wrong. Wish me luck on the call will let you guys know how it turns out.

 

Sorry to see the interference problem, major bummer you have to take it out and replace it again.

 

How do we or the company know you did the install correctly?
Is the clutch the same as stock.. requires a special acura tool to get the pressure plate installed right?

Aftermarket companies are not liable for your time to fix a problem with their part.
Aftermarket parts are subject to real world testing before adjustments can be made to final product--fitting or wear issues- sometimes you are the test pilot

The maker should work with you to replace parts but not your labor

 

Well I talked to the manufacture of the flywheel and he said the ring gear has the correct nuber of teeth and it does not matter the style of cut. It might make alot of noise but it will be ok. He said I can send him my old flywheel and he can take the ring gear off of it and put it on a new flywheel. Than I get to install it again WOO HOO.

 

OK lets awnser all of your questions.

1.How do we or the company know you did the install correctly?

The instalation is not the problem the RING GEAR IS! I had a friend who is an ASE Certified Mechanic help me thru the job also.

2. Is the clutch the same as stock.. requires a special acura tool to get the pressure plate installed right?

The clutch is basicaly same as stock a bit better tho, and as far as the $700 tool from Acura, we found a way around it that cost $3.00.



I understand that it is an aftermarket part and not OEM but when they said that they use OEM ring gears on there flywheels that means it is an OEM ring gear and not what was on it.

To clear this up a bit I have NO problems driving the car it goes into every gear as it should, the only proble is it sounds terrible when starting.

Thanks.

 

how is the rpm rev with the light flywheel and id like to know how it is as a daily driver. I had a light flywheel on my previous car and it seemed like at every stop light i wanted to race the car next to me lol. Glad they are able to fix the gear.

 

Have not really noticed a difference yet. Only drove a short bit and cant get on it to much still in the break in period.

 

really... pm illstrategy... he is having a wonderful time with his spec clutch which I suggested

 

man, doesnt anybody read my posts?? it would have saved you alot of heartache if you did

Aasco is the place clutchmasters has making their flywheels for. whoever you talked to about the ring gear issue is full of shit. not only does the ring gear have different shaped teeth, but it is short one tooth :/ the oem flywheel has 123 teeth, while the Aasco has 122 and overall diameter is about 3/8 inch smaller.. take it off and count them for yourself. they know about this problem and so does clutchmasters, but they never bothered to address it.


all i can say is clutchmaster FINALLY has the kit right (besides the ring gear issue of course). if someone is interested in buying the whole kit, simply buy a used flywheel and send it to them, so they can take it off and install it on theirs. my first kit had a monster PP that was way to much for the master cylinder and kept blowing them left and right. then they gave me a PP that was the exact opposite and didnt have enough clamping power and made my clutch silp. i just recently took the kit out and they gave me the correct PP along with a brand new stage 3 disc and new steel plates for the FW and all is good clutch pedal is exactly the way it should be, stiffer then stock, but not a monster either. no loud starting noise and engagement is smooth.

 

I bought last week a clutch masters stage 4 kit (ceramic 6 puck) kit with the flywheel... for my CLS6


Do i am gonna have some problem with the kit??

 

Sean's CM stage 3 kit is working quite well on his 3.2 TL (J32A3) swap and he's boosted too..

Scott you freaking noob..!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

more than likely. did you count the teeth on the ring gear?

 

well i got mine back from cm about 3 weeks ago and installed it...they put a stock ring gear on the flywheel and gave me a new pp... now when i start the car it sounds like stock and the stage 3 and stage one pp works good together...i just hope it dosent give out on me...i got a lil over 2k on it and i have my fingers crossed...

 

122 teeth

 

So when im gonna change my STOCK oem Flywheel/clutch to the Clutch masters kit, can i do it myself by taking off the oem ring gear and put it to the aasco flywheel?

Or i had to send my aasco flywheel to their facility?

 

Either you guys haven't read about the setup we are using or everyone just seemed to ignore , but we used stock pressure plate ,stock flywheel & a clutch disc tested up to 416 lb tq , we've had this in for over 7 k now and if anyone doubts this setup I'll prove them wrong it's the best so far and if it didn't put the power to the ground we wouldn't have made those numbers to the wheels ...............................time to sit back and think for a minute ..... Just my 2 cents...

 

I can't believe CM still sells these kits with this known issue. It is correctable (swap ring gears) but it really pays to search the forums before doing an swap like this. Your setup will run but its really only a matter of time before either your ring gear or starter gets chewed entirely through.

 

Rod... that will hold the power, while engaged...but think about shifting for a min...do me a favor....do some quick full throttle shifting...and what i mean by that is...once mashed in first gear, your gas pedal never leaves the floor...just clutch in-shift-clutch out <<<lightening fast... untill you get in 5th...

btw, yours is a kevlar disc, correct?

if yours never slips if you shift the way i do, then my ceramic shouldn't either, but it does...simply due to lack of PP clamping power

 

well the cm kit is garbage...my clutch is not holding up again...i broke it in well over a 1000 miles and when i launch hard it slips...well i am done with the car the full part out is coming soon....as soon as i find my truck...

 

Funny, I suggested this too and got blasted for it...

 

what what what? are u serious??

 

To the op do you have pics of the Exedy? I was thinking about purchasing that kit since I have not heard anything good about exedy or clutch. The main thing I want to see is the PP design. I know I am definitely not gonna go with stock. As for the flywheel I really do not feel like spending money on another dual mass. Shits expensive and seeing what happens with what the slave does....Thats gonna have to be changed regardless until I do the mod.

 

opel if you cant tell by the videos i guess its time you take a trip...i know what you mean this car has been used abused brought back to life ,trust me i wouldnt be driving a car with even a slight slippage trust me ...

 

I meant to say Spec in my post lol. Man I am tired...been out in the sun all day.

 

i dont doubt that man...i know you abuse the shit out of it lol i still want you to do what i said the way i said

 

ill settle it when i get it on the track ,but hows your car holding up did u get it back to the dyno as yet?

 

my car is ok now lol... the rear head was warped as i suspected which blew through the gasket..thats where overheating came from...combustion leaking into the coolant, building up pressure, overflowing the system, spilling out water, causing overheat

shaved both heads, new gaskets and bolts, good for now.
im awaiting fuel system upgrades, so i can run the 9 psi pulley...ive just been busy with other things, and decided to give myself a break from shelling out money every goddamn day lol. right now im only running 6.5 psi

 

WHAT!!! you have got to be kidding me!?!

did jose send you a different PP? or did he just resurface that and the FW?? dude, dont just give up on your ride because of this i know i have the luxury of going down to CM when ever i have a problem, but dont let this kinda stuff slide because your far away. like i said in my previous post, they finally got the PP right.

is your clutch pedal very soft (like stock), medium, or super stiff??

what exactly did he do to your clutch kit after sending it back to you?? did he give you new parts? i wanted you to send me some detailed pics, but you never did. i know exactly what to look for and could have told you the parts are right or not :/

 

My clutch slips when speed shifting into 2nd, now all it does is slip.

How much would Acura charge for a new one ? Whats the best to do? Since so many say aftermarket clutches aren't much better? SHIT, my car only has 35k miles.

 

what's really weird is that when we pulled my flywheel out i had 125 teeth OEM, so clutchmasters is making me a new setup custom to my parts.

i was quoted about 1600-1800 parts and labor from my dealership to do the whole clutch job. however i had to be rebellious.