My thoughts after testing the new MDX
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My thoughts after testing the new MDX
I just posted this at my blog ( http://cliffbig.blogspot.com/2013/06...y-choices.html ), but I thought I'd share it here as well:
When I bought my 2010 Acura MDX back in late 2009, I told Patrick, my salesperson, "I'll be seeing you again in about four years." At the time, I presumed that Acura would roll out their new body design in 2013 (the first MDX design lasted from 2001 through 2006, so I figured the second one would last from 2007 through 2012), and that way I could give them a year to work out any kinks before I bought my next MDX.
I've been impressed with the MDX over the years. My first MDX was a 2001 model, well-made and well appointed for its time. I was taken enough with the redesign that I bought a 2007, which I found to be a major improvement over the 2001 in design, performance, and features. Best of all, the ELS audio system offered DVD-Audio playback; I had begun buying DVD-Audio multichannel discs when we got an Acura RL, and had been quite enchanted with the sound quality and the distinctive multichannel sound. Acura was pushing the format, including a sample ELS DVD-Audio disc with each vehicle sold. As a result, the proportionate number of Acura owners who also own DVD-Audio discs is probably pretty respectable. I know I was an enthusiastic supporter of the format.
I upgraded to a 2010 MDX, as I've mentioned, figuring that would hold me until the next model came out. As it turned out, Acura held onto the second generation body design for an extra year, so we're just now seeing the third generation body design this month as the 2014 model reaches dealerships.
There are many things I like about it: the fact that it sits slightly lower (19.5" step-in height rather than the old 21" step-in height), has push-button ignition, improved iPod and Pandora connectivity, a higher-torque engine that gives impressive performance with significantly improved mileage, a second-row seat that drops flat for cargo loading (the old model only dropped to about a 10 degree angle), a slightly longer cargo area when you drop the second and third row seat. I like the telemetrics system they've implemented.
But there are drawbacks as well. The cargo area is a full 2" lower at its highest point; since I have to use the Acura to pick up our comics shipment each week, and that can be quite large, I need as much cargo space as I can get. The cargo area is also 2" narrower at its narrowest point (between the rear wheel wells); it just barely fits two of the standard sized "double" boxes are used by comics distributors, but it's so close that I am relatively certain the inside of the car will get scuffed from loading and unloading. The narrower vehicle also offers each front seat passenger 1" less hip room and 2" less head room than the 2010 Acura. I've always appreciated the voluminous driver and passenger space the Acur afforded, and hate it that they've narrowed the vehicle and lowered the height of the cargo capacity at the same time they lowered the vehicle's step-in height (there's no reason that giving the vehicle slightly less ground clearance and a more accessible step-in height mandated less interior head room as well). I also dislike the fact that they've replaced a number of buttons with touch-screen controls; in some cases, it requires navigating through multiple screens to do things that used to be done with a single button push. And I'm bothered by the cheapening of the car's looks; the pillars used to be covered with fabric, but now they're cheap plastic. The interior looks a bit more pedestrian and less well-made.
Worst of all, there's no DVD-Audio playback. Even if you opt for the DVD Entertainment system, the player won't play DVD-Audio discs, which is really short-sighted; that would have been a great way to keep the player and encourage veteran owners like me who have DVD-A discs to upgrade to the entertainment system even though we never have rear-seat passengers. So I have a couple of hundred great multichannel high-res audio discs that I can no longer listen to in the MDX if I go with the current model.
I have to give them credit in other regards, though. They've improved the ELS audio system in a number of other ways. XM Radio playback, which was always a weak point before, now sounds remarkably crisp. They've upgraded from Dolby Pro-Logic (for imitation multi-channel sound from two-channel sources) to DTS Neural Surround, which has a much richer and more encompassing sound field. And they've finally figured out how to make monophonic sound seem to fill the cabin, rather than always seeming to come from the front speakers only. (My Equus has handled this wonderfully, making me all too aware of how badly Acura handled both XM radio and monophonic music.)
Now I have to decide what I want to do. Thankfully, the vehicle I want won't be available for a couple of months anyway, so I'm not tempted to rush into a decision. But I have to admit that I really hate it when stepping up to a new model means stepping down insofar as some much-appreciated aspects of the vehicle are concerned...
When I bought my 2010 Acura MDX back in late 2009, I told Patrick, my salesperson, "I'll be seeing you again in about four years." At the time, I presumed that Acura would roll out their new body design in 2013 (the first MDX design lasted from 2001 through 2006, so I figured the second one would last from 2007 through 2012), and that way I could give them a year to work out any kinks before I bought my next MDX.
I've been impressed with the MDX over the years. My first MDX was a 2001 model, well-made and well appointed for its time. I was taken enough with the redesign that I bought a 2007, which I found to be a major improvement over the 2001 in design, performance, and features. Best of all, the ELS audio system offered DVD-Audio playback; I had begun buying DVD-Audio multichannel discs when we got an Acura RL, and had been quite enchanted with the sound quality and the distinctive multichannel sound. Acura was pushing the format, including a sample ELS DVD-Audio disc with each vehicle sold. As a result, the proportionate number of Acura owners who also own DVD-Audio discs is probably pretty respectable. I know I was an enthusiastic supporter of the format.
I upgraded to a 2010 MDX, as I've mentioned, figuring that would hold me until the next model came out. As it turned out, Acura held onto the second generation body design for an extra year, so we're just now seeing the third generation body design this month as the 2014 model reaches dealerships.
There are many things I like about it: the fact that it sits slightly lower (19.5" step-in height rather than the old 21" step-in height), has push-button ignition, improved iPod and Pandora connectivity, a higher-torque engine that gives impressive performance with significantly improved mileage, a second-row seat that drops flat for cargo loading (the old model only dropped to about a 10 degree angle), a slightly longer cargo area when you drop the second and third row seat. I like the telemetrics system they've implemented.
But there are drawbacks as well. The cargo area is a full 2" lower at its highest point; since I have to use the Acura to pick up our comics shipment each week, and that can be quite large, I need as much cargo space as I can get. The cargo area is also 2" narrower at its narrowest point (between the rear wheel wells); it just barely fits two of the standard sized "double" boxes are used by comics distributors, but it's so close that I am relatively certain the inside of the car will get scuffed from loading and unloading. The narrower vehicle also offers each front seat passenger 1" less hip room and 2" less head room than the 2010 Acura. I've always appreciated the voluminous driver and passenger space the Acur afforded, and hate it that they've narrowed the vehicle and lowered the height of the cargo capacity at the same time they lowered the vehicle's step-in height (there's no reason that giving the vehicle slightly less ground clearance and a more accessible step-in height mandated less interior head room as well). I also dislike the fact that they've replaced a number of buttons with touch-screen controls; in some cases, it requires navigating through multiple screens to do things that used to be done with a single button push. And I'm bothered by the cheapening of the car's looks; the pillars used to be covered with fabric, but now they're cheap plastic. The interior looks a bit more pedestrian and less well-made.
Worst of all, there's no DVD-Audio playback. Even if you opt for the DVD Entertainment system, the player won't play DVD-Audio discs, which is really short-sighted; that would have been a great way to keep the player and encourage veteran owners like me who have DVD-A discs to upgrade to the entertainment system even though we never have rear-seat passengers. So I have a couple of hundred great multichannel high-res audio discs that I can no longer listen to in the MDX if I go with the current model.
I have to give them credit in other regards, though. They've improved the ELS audio system in a number of other ways. XM Radio playback, which was always a weak point before, now sounds remarkably crisp. They've upgraded from Dolby Pro-Logic (for imitation multi-channel sound from two-channel sources) to DTS Neural Surround, which has a much richer and more encompassing sound field. And they've finally figured out how to make monophonic sound seem to fill the cabin, rather than always seeming to come from the front speakers only. (My Equus has handled this wonderfully, making me all too aware of how badly Acura handled both XM radio and monophonic music.)
Now I have to decide what I want to do. Thankfully, the vehicle I want won't be available for a couple of months anyway, so I'm not tempted to rush into a decision. But I have to admit that I really hate it when stepping up to a new model means stepping down insofar as some much-appreciated aspects of the vehicle are concerned...
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I just posted this at my blog ( http://cliffbig.blogspot.com/2013/06...y-choices.html ), but I thought I'd share it here as well:
When I bought my 2010 Acura MDX back in late 2009, I told Patrick, my salesperson, "I'll be seeing you again in about four years." At the time, I presumed that Acura would roll out their new body design in 2013 (the first MDX design lasted from 2001 through 2006, so I figured the second one would last from 2007 through 2012), and that way I could give them a year to work out any kinks before I bought my next MDX.
I've been impressed with the MDX over the years. My first MDX was a 2001 model, well-made and well appointed for its time. I was taken enough with the redesign that I bought a 2007, which I found to be a major improvement over the 2001 in design, performance, and features. Best of all, the ELS audio system offered DVD-Audio playback; I had begun buying DVD-Audio multichannel discs when we got an Acura RL, and had been quite enchanted with the sound quality and the distinctive multichannel sound. Acura was pushing the format, including a sample ELS DVD-Audio disc with each vehicle sold. As a result, the proportionate number of Acura owners who also own DVD-Audio discs is probably pretty respectable. I know I was an enthusiastic supporter of the format.
I upgraded to a 2010 MDX, as I've mentioned, figuring that would hold me until the next model came out. As it turned out, Acura held onto the second generation body design for an extra year, so we're just now seeing the third generation body design this month as the 2014 model reaches dealerships.
There are many things I like about it: the fact that it sits slightly lower (19.5" step-in height rather than the old 21" step-in height), has push-button ignition, improved iPod and Pandora connectivity, a higher-torque engine that gives impressive performance with significantly improved mileage, a second-row seat that drops flat for cargo loading (the old model only dropped to about a 10 degree angle), a slightly longer cargo area when you drop the second and third row seat. I like the telemetrics system they've implemented.
But there are drawbacks as well. The cargo area is a full 2" lower at its highest point; since I have to use the Acura to pick up our comics shipment each week, and that can be quite large, I need as much cargo space as I can get. The cargo area is also 2" narrower at its narrowest point (between the rear wheel wells); it just barely fits two of the standard sized "double" boxes are used by comics distributors, but it's so close that I am relatively certain the inside of the car will get scuffed from loading and unloading. The narrower vehicle also offers each front seat passenger 1" less hip room and 2" less head room than the 2010 Acura. I've always appreciated the voluminous driver and passenger space the Acur afforded, and hate it that they've narrowed the vehicle and lowered the height of the cargo capacity at the same time they lowered the vehicle's step-in height (there's no reason that giving the vehicle slightly less ground clearance and a more accessible step-in height mandated less interior head room as well). I also dislike the fact that they've replaced a number of buttons with touch-screen controls; in some cases, it requires navigating through multiple screens to do things that used to be done with a single button push. And I'm bothered by the cheapening of the car's looks; the pillars used to be covered with fabric, but now they're cheap plastic. The interior looks a bit more pedestrian and less well-made.
Worst of all, there's no DVD-Audio playback. Even if you opt for the DVD Entertainment system, the player won't play DVD-Audio discs, which is really short-sighted; that would have been a great way to keep the player and encourage veteran owners like me who have DVD-A discs to upgrade to the entertainment system even though we never have rear-seat passengers. So I have a couple of hundred great multichannel high-res audio discs that I can no longer listen to in the MDX if I go with the current model.
I have to give them credit in other regards, though. They've improved the ELS audio system in a number of other ways. XM Radio playback, which was always a weak point before, now sounds remarkably crisp. They've upgraded from Dolby Pro-Logic (for imitation multi-channel sound from two-channel sources) to DTS Neural Surround, which has a much richer and more encompassing sound field. And they've finally figured out how to make monophonic sound seem to fill the cabin, rather than always seeming to come from the front speakers only. (My Equus has handled this wonderfully, making me all too aware of how badly Acura handled both XM radio and monophonic music.)
Now I have to decide what I want to do. Thankfully, the vehicle I want won't be available for a couple of months anyway, so I'm not tempted to rush into a decision. But I have to admit that I really hate it when stepping up to a new model means stepping down insofar as some much-appreciated aspects of the vehicle are concerned...
When I bought my 2010 Acura MDX back in late 2009, I told Patrick, my salesperson, "I'll be seeing you again in about four years." At the time, I presumed that Acura would roll out their new body design in 2013 (the first MDX design lasted from 2001 through 2006, so I figured the second one would last from 2007 through 2012), and that way I could give them a year to work out any kinks before I bought my next MDX.
I've been impressed with the MDX over the years. My first MDX was a 2001 model, well-made and well appointed for its time. I was taken enough with the redesign that I bought a 2007, which I found to be a major improvement over the 2001 in design, performance, and features. Best of all, the ELS audio system offered DVD-Audio playback; I had begun buying DVD-Audio multichannel discs when we got an Acura RL, and had been quite enchanted with the sound quality and the distinctive multichannel sound. Acura was pushing the format, including a sample ELS DVD-Audio disc with each vehicle sold. As a result, the proportionate number of Acura owners who also own DVD-Audio discs is probably pretty respectable. I know I was an enthusiastic supporter of the format.
I upgraded to a 2010 MDX, as I've mentioned, figuring that would hold me until the next model came out. As it turned out, Acura held onto the second generation body design for an extra year, so we're just now seeing the third generation body design this month as the 2014 model reaches dealerships.
There are many things I like about it: the fact that it sits slightly lower (19.5" step-in height rather than the old 21" step-in height), has push-button ignition, improved iPod and Pandora connectivity, a higher-torque engine that gives impressive performance with significantly improved mileage, a second-row seat that drops flat for cargo loading (the old model only dropped to about a 10 degree angle), a slightly longer cargo area when you drop the second and third row seat. I like the telemetrics system they've implemented.
But there are drawbacks as well. The cargo area is a full 2" lower at its highest point; since I have to use the Acura to pick up our comics shipment each week, and that can be quite large, I need as much cargo space as I can get. The cargo area is also 2" narrower at its narrowest point (between the rear wheel wells); it just barely fits two of the standard sized "double" boxes are used by comics distributors, but it's so close that I am relatively certain the inside of the car will get scuffed from loading and unloading. The narrower vehicle also offers each front seat passenger 1" less hip room and 2" less head room than the 2010 Acura. I've always appreciated the voluminous driver and passenger space the Acur afforded, and hate it that they've narrowed the vehicle and lowered the height of the cargo capacity at the same time they lowered the vehicle's step-in height (there's no reason that giving the vehicle slightly less ground clearance and a more accessible step-in height mandated less interior head room as well). I also dislike the fact that they've replaced a number of buttons with touch-screen controls; in some cases, it requires navigating through multiple screens to do things that used to be done with a single button push. And I'm bothered by the cheapening of the car's looks; the pillars used to be covered with fabric, but now they're cheap plastic. The interior looks a bit more pedestrian and less well-made.
Worst of all, there's no DVD-Audio playback. Even if you opt for the DVD Entertainment system, the player won't play DVD-Audio discs, which is really short-sighted; that would have been a great way to keep the player and encourage veteran owners like me who have DVD-A discs to upgrade to the entertainment system even though we never have rear-seat passengers. So I have a couple of hundred great multichannel high-res audio discs that I can no longer listen to in the MDX if I go with the current model.
I have to give them credit in other regards, though. They've improved the ELS audio system in a number of other ways. XM Radio playback, which was always a weak point before, now sounds remarkably crisp. They've upgraded from Dolby Pro-Logic (for imitation multi-channel sound from two-channel sources) to DTS Neural Surround, which has a much richer and more encompassing sound field. And they've finally figured out how to make monophonic sound seem to fill the cabin, rather than always seeming to come from the front speakers only. (My Equus has handled this wonderfully, making me all too aware of how badly Acura handled both XM radio and monophonic music.)
Now I have to decide what I want to do. Thankfully, the vehicle I want won't be available for a couple of months anyway, so I'm not tempted to rush into a decision. But I have to admit that I really hate it when stepping up to a new model means stepping down insofar as some much-appreciated aspects of the vehicle are concerned...
I'm not an MDX owner but I had one as a loaner for a weekend. I've seen the new one at the dealer. For me personally the change in shape is a positive overall. I'm sure it contributed to the increased mpg. But you have your own needs.
If there is no need to buy a new one, I'd hold on to what you have for a while.
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I tend to agree with the previous post. If you are uncertain and can wait until next spring there will be much more availablity and I'm sure some discounting by then. Plus if there are any production "kinks" they will probably have been revealed by then and a chance to fix them.
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The comment regarding the plastic pillars reminded me of my impression when I sat in the new MDX, it did not smell like a new high end car, it smelled more like a Ford. Smell is just another one of the senses that may catagorize your impression of a vehicle and the 2014 MDX did not impart the "quality" of the previous years.
If I had any monophonic sources then perhaps I could comment!
If I had any monophonic sources then perhaps I could comment!
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that they've narrowed the vehicle and lowered the height of the cargo capacity at the same time they lowered the vehicle's step-in height (there's no reason that giving the vehicle slightly less ground clearance and a more accessible step-in height mandated less interior head room as well).
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Rich and Famous
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Nice Write-up.
I have the 2011 MDX Advance and do not plan to go with 2014 model.
In fact your write up makes it a No Go.
I picked the 2011 MDX Advance over a 2011 BMW X5 because of the added headroom.
With the new model 2 inches less ... its BMW headroom all over again.
No matter how you like a model, its features, COO, or its handling ... nothing will turn
off a tall driver faster than their head touching or near the headliner.
Any driver over 6' Beware.
I am 6' 1" FYI.
Acura you get the DA Award for this new model.
I have the 2011 MDX Advance and do not plan to go with 2014 model.
In fact your write up makes it a No Go.
I picked the 2011 MDX Advance over a 2011 BMW X5 because of the added headroom.
With the new model 2 inches less ... its BMW headroom all over again.
No matter how you like a model, its features, COO, or its handling ... nothing will turn
off a tall driver faster than their head touching or near the headliner.
Any driver over 6' Beware.
I am 6' 1" FYI.
Acura you get the DA Award for this new model.
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Test drove the 2014 last week. Liked the smoothness and quietness and no real loss of acceleration ( by feel only of course ) despite lower HP rating. Liked the ease of access to the 3rd row and do not mind the lower roofline cos I am only 5'7". I'd definitely consider it as a replacement for our 2010 but I may wait a few more years for pricing to settle down and discounts to get more favorable.
Saw one on the road the other day and jewel eyes make it look pretty unique. Overall, I'm pretty positive about it.
Saw one on the road the other day and jewel eyes make it look pretty unique. Overall, I'm pretty positive about it.
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Test drove the 2014 last week. Liked the smoothness and quietness and no real loss of acceleration ( by feel only of course ) despite lower HP rating. Liked the ease of access to the 3rd row and do not mind the lower roofline cos I am only 5'7". I'd definitely consider it as a replacement for our 2010 but I may wait a few more years for pricing to settle down and discounts to get more favorable.
Saw one on the road the other day and jewel eyes make it look pretty unique. Overall, I'm pretty positive about it.
Saw one on the road the other day and jewel eyes make it look pretty unique. Overall, I'm pretty positive about it.
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I had the opportunity to test drive the '14 SHAWD. I can agree with the new owner's experiences. It is incredibly quiet around town and on the hwy. You can barely hear the engine and the road noise is next to near non-existant. Acceleration onto hwy's or out of turns is smooth and effortless. The ride in general is plush and very comfortable. You can't really feel the road bumps like you can in the 2G. Steering is tolerable for EPS in sport mode and certainly not a stiff as the 2G with the hydraulic steering. Handlingwise, I took a turn and it behaved much like the 2G with a touch less body roll (i did chirp the tires a little). The seats are comfortable much like the 2G, but the actual seat cushion itself seemed a bit narrower (which is fine for me), and the side bolstering is comparable to the 2G (i prefer more body hugging like my TL).
Overall, it seems the 3G ride is completely different than the outgoing 2G (in a lot of aspects). Good or bad? Depends on your personal preference. I'd have to spend more time driving the 3G to give a fair assesment. The 2G feels more like a truck, while the 3G feels more like a car when driving. I still think the looks of the 3G is more overgrown wagon. When it sits next to a 2G, the 2G seems to have more presence in it's stance vs. the 3G.
Accessorywise-the running boards seem unnecessary in terms of function. The front and rear garnishes are nice touches, but look a little cheap when you get up close to the car. I still miss the exposed exhaust tips.
My initial impression: it's a nice car, though i'm not ready to rush out and buy one just yet. The 3G will sell despite the nitpicky moaning of enthusiasts about little things. It will sell well to the masses. From what I gather, my dealer has a lot of 3G's on order right now and will most likely stock more SHAWD models vs FWD. I know they sold a good number of them in the first two weeks (over 30). It will be interesting to see the first month's sales.
Overall, it seems the 3G ride is completely different than the outgoing 2G (in a lot of aspects). Good or bad? Depends on your personal preference. I'd have to spend more time driving the 3G to give a fair assesment. The 2G feels more like a truck, while the 3G feels more like a car when driving. I still think the looks of the 3G is more overgrown wagon. When it sits next to a 2G, the 2G seems to have more presence in it's stance vs. the 3G.
Accessorywise-the running boards seem unnecessary in terms of function. The front and rear garnishes are nice touches, but look a little cheap when you get up close to the car. I still miss the exposed exhaust tips.
My initial impression: it's a nice car, though i'm not ready to rush out and buy one just yet. The 3G will sell despite the nitpicky moaning of enthusiasts about little things. It will sell well to the masses. From what I gather, my dealer has a lot of 3G's on order right now and will most likely stock more SHAWD models vs FWD. I know they sold a good number of them in the first two weeks (over 30). It will be interesting to see the first month's sales.
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I would like to add that while I am totally in LOVE with this car after 2 weeks it does have one or two things that I am not happy with, specifically, concerning the voice recognition.
Comparatively speaking the VR in my 2012 TL was better than the 2014 MDX. First of all, like the TL, you SHOULD be able to say 'Go Home' on any screen and it will give you the option to add that as your destination. In reality, however, when I say 'Go Home' on any screen other than the Navigation>Menu screen, it brings me to the address entry to EDIT IT and not 'set as destination.' The same thing happens when I try to route to a destination in my address book. If I say 'Address Book' and select an entry, it wants me to edit it, NOT set as destination. Again, I have to be on the MENU subpage in the Navi screen in order to access and set any addy in my AB as a destination.
Finally, the VR in regards to iPod/iPhone is lacking as well. If I say (don't hate on me for my music selection please) "Play Album Hands All Over" it for the life of me doesn't even come close. The same is true for the iPhone address book. The manual (yes I actually read them cover to cover) states 'the longer name you state the better it is for the VR system' (ok so I paraphrased it), but in my real world experience it doesn't even come close...and you can FORGET voice tags.
My solution for the iPhone/iPod issues has been to just use Siri to control those functions and it works flawlessly. I'm considering purchasing Mobile Home from Beanco technology so I don't have to reach over and touch my phone everytime I want to interact with Siri. All of this was duplicated in front of my sales team at the dealership when they were trying to 'show off' the VR functions. LOL! #FAIL!
Not sure this is helpful but it is my experience to date (and again the only negative(s) I have so far with this car). I wonder if others experience the same thing I Am or if I'm just lucky? :-D
Comparatively speaking the VR in my 2012 TL was better than the 2014 MDX. First of all, like the TL, you SHOULD be able to say 'Go Home' on any screen and it will give you the option to add that as your destination. In reality, however, when I say 'Go Home' on any screen other than the Navigation>Menu screen, it brings me to the address entry to EDIT IT and not 'set as destination.' The same thing happens when I try to route to a destination in my address book. If I say 'Address Book' and select an entry, it wants me to edit it, NOT set as destination. Again, I have to be on the MENU subpage in the Navi screen in order to access and set any addy in my AB as a destination.
Finally, the VR in regards to iPod/iPhone is lacking as well. If I say (don't hate on me for my music selection please) "Play Album Hands All Over" it for the life of me doesn't even come close. The same is true for the iPhone address book. The manual (yes I actually read them cover to cover) states 'the longer name you state the better it is for the VR system' (ok so I paraphrased it), but in my real world experience it doesn't even come close...and you can FORGET voice tags.
My solution for the iPhone/iPod issues has been to just use Siri to control those functions and it works flawlessly. I'm considering purchasing Mobile Home from Beanco technology so I don't have to reach over and touch my phone everytime I want to interact with Siri. All of this was duplicated in front of my sales team at the dealership when they were trying to 'show off' the VR functions. LOL! #FAIL!
Not sure this is helpful but it is my experience to date (and again the only negative(s) I have so far with this car). I wonder if others experience the same thing I Am or if I'm just lucky? :-D
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^^curious. are you talking to the VR normally or anunciating the words? i really don't use the VR in either my TL or the MDX, but i do use the bluetooth. i find that when i try and anunciate the numbers, the car inherently messes up the number. if i speak normally, it usually gets it right.
i'm hoping the newer navi's in the MDX are smarter than the 2G ones. the navi in my MDX is stupid when routing destinations than my older TL! my TL seems to have learned the routes and then keeps them that way whenever i enter the destination again.
i'm hoping the newer navi's in the MDX are smarter than the 2G ones. the navi in my MDX is stupid when routing destinations than my older TL! my TL seems to have learned the routes and then keeps them that way whenever i enter the destination again.
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^^curious. are you talking to the VR normally or anunciating the words? i really don't use the VR in either my TL or the MDX, but i do use the bluetooth. i find that when i try and anunciate the numbers, the car inherently messes up the number. if i speak normally, it usually gets it right.
i'm hoping the newer navi's in the MDX are smarter than the 2G ones. the navi in my MDX is stupid when routing destinations than my older TL! my TL seems to have learned the routes and then keeps them that way whenever i enter the destination again.
i'm hoping the newer navi's in the MDX are smarter than the 2G ones. the navi in my MDX is stupid when routing destinations than my older TL! my TL seems to have learned the routes and then keeps them that way whenever i enter the destination again.
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^^curious. are you talking to the VR normally or anunciating the words? i really don't use the VR in either my TL or the MDX, but i do use the bluetooth. i find that when i try and anunciate the numbers, the car inherently messes up the number. if i speak normally, it usually gets it right.
i'm hoping the newer navi's in the MDX are smarter than the 2G ones. the navi in my MDX is stupid when routing destinations than my older TL! my TL seems to have learned the routes and then keeps them that way whenever i enter the destination again.
i'm hoping the newer navi's in the MDX are smarter than the 2G ones. the navi in my MDX is stupid when routing destinations than my older TL! my TL seems to have learned the routes and then keeps them that way whenever i enter the destination again.
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I REALLY wish I could 'edit' my posts because I think of more to say after I hit submit! :-D Sorry for the third message. I should also state that my issues thusfar with the VR have to deal with the destinations and control over phone/iPod functions. Commands that set temperature or change audio presets do not give me issue. I speak to the VR in the same tone. Just weird. OK, there will not be a fourth post unless someone requires a response. :-D
Intermediate
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Nice Write-up.
I have the 2011 MDX Advance and do not plan to go with 2014 model.
In fact your write up makes it a No Go.
I picked the 2011 MDX Advance over a 2011 BMW X5 because of the added headroom.
With the new model 2 inches less ... its BMW headroom all over again.
No matter how you like a model, its features, COO, or its handling ... nothing will turn
off a tall driver faster than their head touching or near the headliner.
Any driver over 6' Beware.
I am 6' 1" FYI.
Acura you get the DA Award for this new model.
I have the 2011 MDX Advance and do not plan to go with 2014 model.
In fact your write up makes it a No Go.
I picked the 2011 MDX Advance over a 2011 BMW X5 because of the added headroom.
With the new model 2 inches less ... its BMW headroom all over again.
No matter how you like a model, its features, COO, or its handling ... nothing will turn
off a tall driver faster than their head touching or near the headliner.
Any driver over 6' Beware.
I am 6' 1" FYI.
Acura you get the DA Award for this new model.
2013 BMW X5 Front Headroom: 36.6in
2014 Acura MDX Front Headroom: 38.1in
2013 Acura MDX Front Headroom: 39.2in
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Racer
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From: NJ
From a styling perspective I feel the car looks more like a station wagon or mini-van than an SUV. That alone is enough of a turn off that I can already say I will not be being a 3G MDX. I also wish it had exposed tail pipes. That's something that screams mini-van to me. I can accept no tailpipes on my oddyssey but on my MDX I can't even imagine it.
Aside from the jewel eyes and push start I think the 2g has everything I need/like. Except for my 19mph highway
.
Aside from the jewel eyes and push start I think the 2g has everything I need/like. Except for my 19mph highway
.
9th Gear
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From a styling perspective I feel the car looks more like a station wagon or mini-van than an SUV. That alone is enough of a turn off that I can already say I will not be being a 3G MDX. I also wish it had exposed tail pipes. That's something that screams mini-van to me. I can accept no tailpipes on my oddyssey but on my MDX I can't even imagine it.
Aside from the jewel eyes and push start I think the 2g has everything I need/like. Except for my 19mph highway.
Aside from the jewel eyes and push start I think the 2g has everything I need/like. Except for my 19mph highway
.
I do agree from the rear it looks less sporty than the 2G I had, but overall the styling has improved. The front in particular is a huge improvement. If it bothers you that much just take the 2 rear reflectors out and have a muffler shop run new exhaust tips through those holes!
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I just posted this at my blog ( http://cliffbig.blogspot.com/2013/06...y-choices.html ), but I thought I'd share it here as well:
When I bought my 2010 Acura MDX back in late 2009, I told Patrick, my salesperson, "I'll be seeing you again in about four years." At the time, I presumed that Acura would roll out their new body design in 2013 (the first MDX design lasted from 2001 through 2006, so I figured the second one would last from 2007 through 2012), and that way I could give them a year to work out any kinks before I bought my next MDX.
I've been impressed with the MDX over the years. My first MDX was a 2001 model, well-made and well appointed for its time. I was taken enough with the redesign that I bought a 2007, which I found to be a major improvement over the 2001 in design, performance, and features. Best of all, the ELS audio system offered DVD-Audio playback; I had begun buying DVD-Audio multichannel discs when we got an Acura RL, and had been quite enchanted with the sound quality and the distinctive multichannel sound. Acura was pushing the format, including a sample ELS DVD-Audio disc with each vehicle sold. As a result, the proportionate number of Acura owners who also own DVD-Audio discs is probably pretty respectable. I know I was an enthusiastic supporter of the format.
I upgraded to a 2010 MDX, as I've mentioned, figuring that would hold me until the next model came out. As it turned out, Acura held onto the second generation body design for an extra year, so we're just now seeing the third generation body design this month as the 2014 model reaches dealerships.
There are many things I like about it: the fact that it sits slightly lower (19.5" step-in height rather than the old 21" step-in height), has push-button ignition, improved iPod and Pandora connectivity, a higher-torque engine that gives impressive performance with significantly improved mileage, a second-row seat that drops flat for cargo loading (the old model only dropped to about a 10 degree angle), a slightly longer cargo area when you drop the second and third row seat. I like the telemetrics system they've implemented.
But there are drawbacks as well. The cargo area is a full 2" lower at its highest point; since I have to use the Acura to pick up our comics shipment each week, and that can be quite large, I need as much cargo space as I can get. The cargo area is also 2" narrower at its narrowest point (between the rear wheel wells); it just barely fits two of the standard sized "double" boxes are used by comics distributors, but it's so close that I am relatively certain the inside of the car will get scuffed from loading and unloading. The narrower vehicle also offers each front seat passenger 1" less hip room and 2" less head room than the 2010 Acura. I've always appreciated the voluminous driver and passenger space the Acur afforded, and hate it that they've narrowed the vehicle and lowered the height of the cargo capacity at the same time they lowered the vehicle's step-in height (there's no reason that giving the vehicle slightly less ground clearance and a more accessible step-in height mandated less interior head room as well). I also dislike the fact that they've replaced a number of buttons with touch-screen controls; in some cases, it requires navigating through multiple screens to do things that used to be done with a single button push. And I'm bothered by the cheapening of the car's looks; the pillars used to be covered with fabric, but now they're cheap plastic. The interior looks a bit more pedestrian and less well-made.
Worst of all, there's no DVD-Audio playback. Even if you opt for the DVD Entertainment system, the player won't play DVD-Audio discs, which is really short-sighted; that would have been a great way to keep the player and encourage veteran owners like me who have DVD-A discs to upgrade to the entertainment system even though we never have rear-seat passengers. So I have a couple of hundred great multichannel high-res audio discs that I can no longer listen to in the MDX if I go with the current model.
I have to give them credit in other regards, though. They've improved the ELS audio system in a number of other ways. XM Radio playback, which was always a weak point before, now sounds remarkably crisp. They've upgraded from Dolby Pro-Logic (for imitation multi-channel sound from two-channel sources) to DTS Neural Surround, which has a much richer and more encompassing sound field. And they've finally figured out how to make monophonic sound seem to fill the cabin, rather than always seeming to come from the front speakers only. (My Equus has handled this wonderfully, making me all too aware of how badly Acura handled both XM radio and monophonic music.)
Now I have to decide what I want to do. Thankfully, the vehicle I want won't be available for a couple of months anyway, so I'm not tempted to rush into a decision. But I have to admit that I really hate it when stepping up to a new model means stepping down insofar as some much-appreciated aspects of the vehicle are concerned...
When I bought my 2010 Acura MDX back in late 2009, I told Patrick, my salesperson, "I'll be seeing you again in about four years." At the time, I presumed that Acura would roll out their new body design in 2013 (the first MDX design lasted from 2001 through 2006, so I figured the second one would last from 2007 through 2012), and that way I could give them a year to work out any kinks before I bought my next MDX.
I've been impressed with the MDX over the years. My first MDX was a 2001 model, well-made and well appointed for its time. I was taken enough with the redesign that I bought a 2007, which I found to be a major improvement over the 2001 in design, performance, and features. Best of all, the ELS audio system offered DVD-Audio playback; I had begun buying DVD-Audio multichannel discs when we got an Acura RL, and had been quite enchanted with the sound quality and the distinctive multichannel sound. Acura was pushing the format, including a sample ELS DVD-Audio disc with each vehicle sold. As a result, the proportionate number of Acura owners who also own DVD-Audio discs is probably pretty respectable. I know I was an enthusiastic supporter of the format.
I upgraded to a 2010 MDX, as I've mentioned, figuring that would hold me until the next model came out. As it turned out, Acura held onto the second generation body design for an extra year, so we're just now seeing the third generation body design this month as the 2014 model reaches dealerships.
There are many things I like about it: the fact that it sits slightly lower (19.5" step-in height rather than the old 21" step-in height), has push-button ignition, improved iPod and Pandora connectivity, a higher-torque engine that gives impressive performance with significantly improved mileage, a second-row seat that drops flat for cargo loading (the old model only dropped to about a 10 degree angle), a slightly longer cargo area when you drop the second and third row seat. I like the telemetrics system they've implemented.
But there are drawbacks as well. The cargo area is a full 2" lower at its highest point; since I have to use the Acura to pick up our comics shipment each week, and that can be quite large, I need as much cargo space as I can get. The cargo area is also 2" narrower at its narrowest point (between the rear wheel wells); it just barely fits two of the standard sized "double" boxes are used by comics distributors, but it's so close that I am relatively certain the inside of the car will get scuffed from loading and unloading. The narrower vehicle also offers each front seat passenger 1" less hip room and 2" less head room than the 2010 Acura. I've always appreciated the voluminous driver and passenger space the Acur afforded, and hate it that they've narrowed the vehicle and lowered the height of the cargo capacity at the same time they lowered the vehicle's step-in height (there's no reason that giving the vehicle slightly less ground clearance and a more accessible step-in height mandated less interior head room as well). I also dislike the fact that they've replaced a number of buttons with touch-screen controls; in some cases, it requires navigating through multiple screens to do things that used to be done with a single button push. And I'm bothered by the cheapening of the car's looks; the pillars used to be covered with fabric, but now they're cheap plastic. The interior looks a bit more pedestrian and less well-made.
Worst of all, there's no DVD-Audio playback. Even if you opt for the DVD Entertainment system, the player won't play DVD-Audio discs, which is really short-sighted; that would have been a great way to keep the player and encourage veteran owners like me who have DVD-A discs to upgrade to the entertainment system even though we never have rear-seat passengers. So I have a couple of hundred great multichannel high-res audio discs that I can no longer listen to in the MDX if I go with the current model.
I have to give them credit in other regards, though. They've improved the ELS audio system in a number of other ways. XM Radio playback, which was always a weak point before, now sounds remarkably crisp. They've upgraded from Dolby Pro-Logic (for imitation multi-channel sound from two-channel sources) to DTS Neural Surround, which has a much richer and more encompassing sound field. And they've finally figured out how to make monophonic sound seem to fill the cabin, rather than always seeming to come from the front speakers only. (My Equus has handled this wonderfully, making me all too aware of how badly Acura handled both XM radio and monophonic music.)
Now I have to decide what I want to do. Thankfully, the vehicle I want won't be available for a couple of months anyway, so I'm not tempted to rush into a decision. But I have to admit that I really hate it when stepping up to a new model means stepping down insofar as some much-appreciated aspects of the vehicle are concerned...
I also feel the headroom is great and comparable to my 2g model (I am 6' even). I do see a few things I would change, but none of them are anywhere near being a reason to just exclude the vehicle from consideration. You do have some unique needs it appears, but I somehow doubt most of us are moving tons of comics. In regards to the multi step buttons I was worried about that too since I did not want to go to multiple screens to turn on the heated seats, change the fan speed, etc.
The voice commands cover all of this though and after a few days I hardly touch the screen at all. It's just a non-issue once you live with it for a bit. My A and B pillars are also covered in a fabric that looks just like my 2010 had. The rear cargo area is just a textured plastic, but I honestly can't remember that my 2010 had fabric covered ones. I actually don't even remember if the B-pillars on the 2010 were fabric covered.
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A DVD player with a DVD-A codec would cost them almost nothing for the firmware but could cost them sales from people who appreciate real quality over the MP 3 crap sounding convenience. If the MDX offered the Krell experience then you could argue the point but to delete it only leaves the new MDX with less quality sound over the previous model.
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Agreed! I never used it other than listening to the ELS demo disk once that was included with my 2012 TL.
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EXACT same deal here. 
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2,014 plus miles in a 2014 Advance MDX
I just returned to Boston from a trip through Washington DC. 1,500 miles in three days and there should be no debate! The 3G MDX is infinitely better than the previous models.
A.) The handling is phenomenal. it corners nearly as well and as flat as my SHAWD TL and the ride/handling balance is absolutely uncompromising. After this trip I am seriously considering putting the TL out to pasture and just driving the MDX.
B.) I miss my DVD audio ); The good news is that 5.1 DTS CD work, are fairly easy to burn, and sound nearly as good. I have tried many different files on a flash drive but have not found a consistent conversion method... yet.
C.) I LOVE to drive, but in almost nine hours of rainy, bumper to bumper traffic, there is absolutely no substitute for the convenience, safety, and "I just can't believe this is happening" fun factor of the Lane Keep Assist and Slow Follow Cruise Control. In over 30 hours of driving, I used these features virtually
the entire time . Absolutely stunning and , although not completely idiot proof , they helped me tremendously.
D.) Silent. The vehicle is vault like silent.
E.) I also miss the intuitive ergonomics of previous Acuras. The dual screen center stack is confusing and the sometimes voice, sometimes not Navigation has lost it's edge over the others in the market. Sometimes, you NEED the Nav most when you are moving. There should be a "navigator" override for the Nav that allows manual use while moving so a front seat passenger could use it in motion. (Much the same way that pickups have used an air bag override for front seat passengers)
F.) Over 23 MPG in some of the worst rain and traffic you will encounter. Nice!
G.) And as always , but now to an even greater degree ( adjustable second row leg room ) , the absolute king of the hill for flexibility, comfort and security for CUVs.
Looking forward to many more trips. Without the traffic and rain!
A.) The handling is phenomenal. it corners nearly as well and as flat as my SHAWD TL and the ride/handling balance is absolutely uncompromising. After this trip I am seriously considering putting the TL out to pasture and just driving the MDX.
B.) I miss my DVD audio ); The good news is that 5.1 DTS CD work, are fairly easy to burn, and sound nearly as good. I have tried many different files on a flash drive but have not found a consistent conversion method... yet.
C.) I LOVE to drive, but in almost nine hours of rainy, bumper to bumper traffic, there is absolutely no substitute for the convenience, safety, and "I just can't believe this is happening" fun factor of the Lane Keep Assist and Slow Follow Cruise Control. In over 30 hours of driving, I used these features virtually
the entire time . Absolutely stunning and , although not completely idiot proof , they helped me tremendously.
D.) Silent. The vehicle is vault like silent.
E.) I also miss the intuitive ergonomics of previous Acuras. The dual screen center stack is confusing and the sometimes voice, sometimes not Navigation has lost it's edge over the others in the market. Sometimes, you NEED the Nav most when you are moving. There should be a "navigator" override for the Nav that allows manual use while moving so a front seat passenger could use it in motion. (Much the same way that pickups have used an air bag override for front seat passengers)
F.) Over 23 MPG in some of the worst rain and traffic you will encounter. Nice!
G.) And as always , but now to an even greater degree ( adjustable second row leg room ) , the absolute king of the hill for flexibility, comfort and security for CUVs.
Looking forward to many more trips. Without the traffic and rain!
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I just returned to Boston from a trip through Washington DC. 1,500 miles in three days and there should be no debate! The 3G MDX is infinitely better than the previous models.
A.) The handling is phenomenal. it corners nearly as well and as flat as my SHAWD TL and the ride/handling balance is absolutely uncompromising. After this trip I am seriously considering putting the TL out to pasture and just driving the MDX.
C.) ..."I just can't believe this is happening" fun factor of the Lane Keep Assist and Slow Follow Cruise Control. In over 30 hours of driving, I used these features virtually the entire time . Absolutely stunning and , although not completely idiot proof , they helped me tremendously.
D.) Silent. The vehicle is vault like silent.
Looking forward to many more trips.
A.) The handling is phenomenal. it corners nearly as well and as flat as my SHAWD TL and the ride/handling balance is absolutely uncompromising. After this trip I am seriously considering putting the TL out to pasture and just driving the MDX.
C.) ..."I just can't believe this is happening" fun factor of the Lane Keep Assist and Slow Follow Cruise Control. In over 30 hours of driving, I used these features virtually the entire time . Absolutely stunning and , although not completely idiot proof , they helped me tremendously.
D.) Silent. The vehicle is vault like silent.
Looking forward to many more trips.
It's a long story, but I have to make four legs from where we are staying to/from the airport to drop off/pick up various relatives. It's a two hour drive and EVERYONE laughs at the fact that you can basically set the LKAS/ACC and layback and relax (only for a few minutes before you freak out though) and let the car take over! It's such an awesome vehicle!
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I just returned to Boston from a trip through Washington DC. 1,500 miles in three days and there should be no debate! The 3G MDX is infinitely better than the previous models.
A.) The handling is phenomenal. it corners nearly as well and as flat as my SHAWD TL and the ride/handling balance is absolutely uncompromising. After this trip I am seriously considering putting the TL out to pasture and just driving the MDX.
B.) I miss my DVD audio ); The good news is that 5.1 DTS CD work, are fairly easy to burn, and sound nearly as good. I have tried many different files on a flash drive but have not found a consistent conversion method... yet.
C.) I LOVE to drive, but in almost nine hours of rainy, bumper to bumper traffic, there is absolutely no substitute for the convenience, safety, and "I just can't believe this is happening" fun factor of the Lane Keep Assist and Slow Follow Cruise Control. In over 30 hours of driving, I used these features virtually
the entire time . Absolutely stunning and , although not completely idiot proof , they helped me tremendously.
D.) Silent. The vehicle is vault like silent.
E.) I also miss the intuitive ergonomics of previous Acuras. The dual screen center stack is confusing and the sometimes voice, sometimes not Navigation has lost it's edge over the others in the market. Sometimes, you NEED the Nav most when you are moving. There should be a "navigator" override for the Nav that allows manual use while moving so a front seat passenger could use it in motion. (Much the same way that pickups have used an air bag override for front seat passengers)
F.) Over 23 MPG in some of the worst rain and traffic you will encounter. Nice!
G.) And as always , but now to an even greater degree ( adjustable second row leg room ) , the absolute king of the hill for flexibility, comfort and security for CUVs.
Looking forward to many more trips. Without the traffic and rain!
A.) The handling is phenomenal. it corners nearly as well and as flat as my SHAWD TL and the ride/handling balance is absolutely uncompromising. After this trip I am seriously considering putting the TL out to pasture and just driving the MDX.
B.) I miss my DVD audio ); The good news is that 5.1 DTS CD work, are fairly easy to burn, and sound nearly as good. I have tried many different files on a flash drive but have not found a consistent conversion method... yet.
C.) I LOVE to drive, but in almost nine hours of rainy, bumper to bumper traffic, there is absolutely no substitute for the convenience, safety, and "I just can't believe this is happening" fun factor of the Lane Keep Assist and Slow Follow Cruise Control. In over 30 hours of driving, I used these features virtually
the entire time . Absolutely stunning and , although not completely idiot proof , they helped me tremendously.
D.) Silent. The vehicle is vault like silent.
E.) I also miss the intuitive ergonomics of previous Acuras. The dual screen center stack is confusing and the sometimes voice, sometimes not Navigation has lost it's edge over the others in the market. Sometimes, you NEED the Nav most when you are moving. There should be a "navigator" override for the Nav that allows manual use while moving so a front seat passenger could use it in motion. (Much the same way that pickups have used an air bag override for front seat passengers)
F.) Over 23 MPG in some of the worst rain and traffic you will encounter. Nice!
G.) And as always , but now to an even greater degree ( adjustable second row leg room ) , the absolute king of the hill for flexibility, comfort and security for CUVs.
Looking forward to many more trips. Without the traffic and rain!
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