The Acura ZDX Is Dead After Just One Model Year
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/acura-zdx-ev-dead.html

 

Lmao didn't its predecessor last longer than that?

 

1G sold 6k unit over many years, 2G sold 20k in one year so Acura had to stop, otherwise the bar would be set too high for 3G.

 

Oh, that is hilarious. And what if the RSX has a lackluster first year sales?

 

Worry not, Acura have thought about it so they mentioned hybrid as well.
"ZDX... will provide a foundation we will build on next year with the arrival of the all-electric Acura RSX, ... as well as with hybrid-electric Acura models now in development."

 

Poor Acura, many models died over these last few decades:

- TSX 4 cyl and V6
- TL
- TLX v1 and v2
- ILX
- ZDX v1 and now v2

 

Practically speaking, the ILX didn’t die; it just got renamed to the Integra. But you also forgot the RLX (everyone forgets it existed)

 

Depending on your definition of few decades, you could add the SLX.

 

Ah yeah the RLX, I do regularly forget about that one! And I don't agree about the ILX, as the Integra is a different car in every way possible and if we are using that gauge than the TSX and/or TL didn't die either but that isn't accurate to me.

I was thinking 2000+ but yeah that one could probably squeak by too. Here's an updated list:

- TSX 4 cyl and V6
- TL
- TLX v1 and v2
- ILX
- ZDX v1 and now v2
- RLX
- SLX

 

What do mean by the Integra being different in every way? The ILX was a slightly more premium Civic Si with an automatic available. Same motor as the Si, same platform as the Si, etc. The Integra is a slightly more premium Civic Si with an automatic available. Same motor as the Si, same platform as the Si. For all intents and purposes it is a second gen ILX (which itself might as well have been a second gen CSX), just by a different name.

It’s the same reason the 3G Integra wasn’t the last of the Integras, since the RSX was the 4G in everything but name.

 

The Integra is a completely different body style (liftback), different transmission, different engine...it shares nothing with the ILX. Did the original Integra become the ILX? To your point the Integra > RSX and the RSX was not > ILX.

And speaking of, forgot to add the RSX to the list:

- TSX 4 cyl and V6
- TL
- TLX v1 and v2
- ILX
- ZDX v1 and now v2
- RSX
- RLX
- SLX

 

Well of course it got a different engine and transmission; it’s a new generation. Very few cars carry over the same powertrain across generations. Why would you expect a new gen to share much with the previous gen.

The RSX got a completely different engine and transmission (and lost the sedan body style) compared to the Integra. It shares nothing with the Integra. So I ask again; are you saying the Integra ended after the 3rd gen? Obviously the answer is no, so why is it they the RSX is a continuation of the Intrgra line but the new Integra is not a continuation of the ILX?

 

Much? No. Something? Yes.

Yes, that is what I'm saying and I never viewed the RSX as an Integra, I viewed it as its replacement. So any car can morph into any other car but still be the same thing? Where do you draw the line? Once there's been drastic changes AND the name changes it's not the same vehicle to me aka a replacement and that model is dead.

 

The RSX is an Integra, as that is what it was called in Japan, where it was designed and engineered. The outgoing Integra was the DC2, the incoming Integra (RSX in North America) was the DC5. It was an evolution of the Integra, not an all new model. It was called RSX here simply due to marketing, as Acura moved away from names and went to their alphabet soup naming scheme.

The ILX was also a Civic with slightly different body panels. It was built on Civic underpinings for nearly a decade, and was actually the successor to the Canada only Acura CSX, which - coincidentally - was also a Civic.

The current Integra is also a Civic, as it is built on Civic underpinings.

 

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, because to me the name of the car isn't relevant. A name is just branding and a marketing exercise; it doesn't make the car what it is. How it's positioned and what it is conceptually is what defines a car IMO. For instance, is the Scion FR-S different from the Toyota 86? It's literally the exact same car, just with a different badge and nameplate. Is the 4G Integra in Japan not the same car as the RSX? Did the M3 Coupe get discontinued when they renamed it the M4?

Throughout automative history, there's been many cars that have had a name change despite still being part of the same line. For instance, the Legend didn't get discontinued; the 3rd gen became the RL, which later became the RLX. If the name was that important, does that mean in Japan (where they were still sold as the Legend) it was never discontinued, but it was discontinued in the US despite being identical products? Similarly, the Vigor didn't get discontinued; it got renamed the Inspire in Japan and TL in the US. The M3 Coupe became the M4. The 135i became the M235i. The GLK became the GLC, ML became GLE, etc. The Outback Sport became the Crosstrek. The list goes on and on.

And then similarly, you have cars that kept the same name, but the previous generation was in fact discontinued. For instance, the original Chargers were midsize RWD coupes, Then the 5th gen became a FWD subcompact hatchback; despite still having the same name, everyone would agree the Charger had gotten discontinued. And then that got discontinued again because the 6th gen became a full-size RWD sedan. Hence, the name means nothing, and it really should be how the car is positioned and its concept that defines it.

 

I didn't say just the name and I said, "Once there's been drastic changes AND the name changes," so a car that is a sedan that morphs into a two door liftback that morphs into a sedan that morphs into a four door liftback all while changing names is not the same to me as a sedan staying a sedan and just changing names, it is a combination of factors. If I covered up the badges and showed someone an RSX and then an ILX there is no way that would be viewed as the same car. But if I covered the badges of a G35 and a Q50 there would be no leap in saying yeah, those cars are related.

 

Lets be honest, 99% of the population would not know the difference between a 4 door liftback and a 4 door sedan. Do you think the typical buyer knows that the Model S is a liftback? Everybody calls it a sedan despite the fact it's technically a liftback. Hence the body style difference between the ILX and Integra isn't much at all.

 

I had a feeling you were going to say something like this