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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Sorry for probably posting a retorical question but, can I just use say the Z5 polish & Z6 enhancer spray.. or will I just be wasting my time by not doing each & every step ?? Thanks in advance...
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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the only thing required besides that is the Z1 Polish-Lok.

You need to use that before you first Z5 application.


minimal steps...

1. Dawn Wash
2. Z1
3. Z5 or Z2

then jus upkeep with the spray/wash.
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by soopa
the only thing required besides that is the Z1 Polish-Lok.
You need to use that before you first Z5 application.
ZFX “quick dry” replaces the need for Z-1 and will allow you to do up to THREE coats in one day.

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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 10:06 PM
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hows this?

So I can do this:
1)dawn wash / dry
2)zfx/Z5
3)zfx/Z5
4) etc....

And then just keep up with the wash & Z6 ?
Thanks again...
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Old Apr 18, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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I would get some Z-2 as well and alternate between THAT and the Z-5.

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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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so - we assume you havent used any zaino yet then ?

if so . .

dawn wash
dry
spray and wipe with Z6 (not mandatory - but makes applicatin slicker )
mix and apply zfx/z2 or z5
wipe off
apply mixture again
wipe off
apply last of mixture
wipe off
spray and wipe with z6 (cut that static down, and give it a slicker surface)

stand back and admire . . . pass around beers to the neighbours who are also admiring . . . make more friends - be elected block captain . . .see how zaino improves your life ?

and now - never use that dawn wash again . . .(unless you have a purpose for it)

you should get some zaino wash z7 - a great concentrated soap, UV40, super sudsing and contains a little of the z2 polish in it to help the shine and durability.

that help ?
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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To people who are good with ZAINO....

Originally posted by Homer2
dawn wash
dry
spray and wipe with Z6 (not mandatory - but makes applicatin slicker )
mix and apply zfx/z2 or z5
wipe off
apply mixture again
wipe off
apply last of mixture
wipe off
spray and wipe with z6 (cut that static down, and give it a slicker surface)

stand back and admire . . .
OK, so let's say we've done that and now you're finished.

What happens when you want to put on some more coats next day? Do you need to Z7 wash, or just "go for it?" I assume there'll be some dust/dirt on the car from driving around the night before?

Also, what happens 2 weeks later if you want to do another coat... do you Z7 wash, and then Z6 spray to begin?

Thanks for anybody's advice!
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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YES! That helped a lot, NO i have never used Zaino before.. I am anxiously awaiting my order in the mail.. I will post some before & after pics when I am done.... This is what I ordered...
ZFX
Z5-scratch
Z6-spray
Z7-wash
Thanks again, Chris.
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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Re: Homer2

Originally posted by ChrisKelly5
This is what I ordered...
ZFX
Z5-scratch
Z6-spray
Z7-wash
Thanks again, Chris.
That will work fine, but you should have gotten some Z-2 as well.

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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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Re: To people who are good with ZAINO....

Originally posted by IWuvMyCL-S

What happens when you want to put on some more coats next day? Do you need to Z7 wash, or just "go for it?" I assume there'll be some dust/dirt on the car from driving around the night before?

Also, what happens 2 weeks later if you want to do another coat... do you Z7 wash, and then Z6 spray to begin?

Thanks for anybody's advice!
Next day ? a california duster is good - to give a quick dustdown. washing is not required.

using z6 again is optional - since it has only gotten dusty (right?)
then apply more top coat polish . . .

2 weeks later - washing is a good idea (unless it has been garaged and you simply need to dust it.

you are your own dust/dirt manager.

if its dusty - use the duster and z6 if you want to. (i always do after dusting)
if its dirty, wash it, dry it - then i will z6 if im not going to apply any more polish, if i am going to apply polish, I may or may not Z6 before the polish. it is not a mandatory step.

The use of z6 not only adds to a slick surface and bumps the shine a bit - but makes darned sure there is nothing on the surface to be sealed over with your next layer of z2/z5.

I always , always finish up with Z6 after wiping off my last polish for the day . . . you dont have to - but if you own Z6 - nows a good time to use it. If you dont have any - your finished job will not suffer.

hope that helps....

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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 02:06 PM
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Don't get ZFX, it's a waiste of money, who does more than one coat in a day anyway? And it's almost summer now so Z2/Z5 will dry quickly.
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by hypno999
Don't get ZFX, it's a waiste of money, who does more than one coat in a day anyway?
ME !!!!

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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 02:53 PM
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Originally posted by hypno999
, who does more than one coat in a day anyway? D
im planning on a multiple session tomorrow - my first with ZX actually. i cant believe i havent used it yet

damned weather -
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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is zfx absolutely necessary?

is zfx really necessary? I live in the middle of florida and it is hot hot hot. I can probably fry an egg in my hood should i just use it in the very first application after I dawn and clay the car?
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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is zfx absolutely necessary?

is zfx really necessary? I live in the middle of florida and it is hot hot hot. I can probably fry an egg in my hood should i just use it in the very first application after I dawn and clay the car?
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 03:42 PM
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yes and no.

Z1 or ZFX are required. They act as a bonding agent - to hold the subsequent layers of Zaino to the finish.

Z1 is used every 10 coats or 6 months. That is simply because either you have layered on enough product to be too far from the bonding agent - or it has worn off with time and other conditions in 6 months.

ZFX contains the Z1 bonding agent - plus the benefits of rapid curing (allowing same day multiple coats) and enhanced shine.

So, yes, you can use your ZFX on day 1 - you can even simply apply one coat (if you pour a little bit of your polish onto the bottle and add a relative number of drops (4 per ounce)

after that - you can choose not to use ZFX again until coat 10 or 6 months have passed. That way, you simply wash, dry and apply just Z2 or Z5.

The 6 month thing is a guide also - you can use it at any point before that if you want . . . but i wouldnt let it strecth much past that.

hope that helps . . .

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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 04:58 PM
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my car is a month old...........do i really need to claybar?
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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my car is a month old...........do i really need to claybar?
YES! Helped a customer a couple weeks ago clay his black 35th Anniv. edition Camaro, two months old. Whole bunch of black stuff showed up on the clay bar and made the finish sm-o-o-o-o-th. You just couldn't stop touching the car.
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Old Apr 19, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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do you clay bumpers and mirrors?
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 11:51 AM
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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Hey guys... I haven't given in to the ZainoMania YET..

My car is SILVER and was just wondering how much of a difference it will make on Silver. I know the difference is obvious on a black or dark colored car...

what about silver??

THANKS!!

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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by Dom418
Hey guys... I haven't given in to the ZainoMania YET..

My car is SILVER and was just wondering how much of a difference it will make on Silver. I know the difference is obvious on a black or dark colored car...

what about silver??

THANKS!!

I can only tell you about my wife's at the time 3 yo silver Civic (please, no flames about not being an Acura). Using the "classic" Z1/Z5, the paint did lighten up considerably and you could see the metallic particles in the paint. Also, the Z-5 hid our son's trike's rubber handlebar marks on the first application. And recently, last December, after using the new ZFX with Z-5, she even noticed quite an increase in reflectiveness and was very pleased. And that's coming from a person who could care less about cars, period.
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Old Apr 21, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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Re: is zfx absolutely necessary?

Originally posted by nandowong
is zfx really necessary? I live in the middle of florida and it is hot hot hot. I can probably fry an egg in my hood should i just use it in the very first application after I dawn and clay the car?
I can only speak to my area, Seattle, where we have high humidity and a lot of rain and mild temps for nine months out of the year. ZFX was made for Seattle weather. Instead of waiting an hour to two hours (or even more if it is applied too thick, as first-timers tend to do), it's dry in 15-20 minutes. And if you have a lot of minor swirls and scratches, instead of just one coat per day, you can apply 3 coats a day to quickly hide those swirls and scratches.

You certainly can use the ZFX just the first time and then every six months thereafter, if you wish.
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Dom418
Hey guys... I haven't given in to the ZainoMania YET..

My car is SILVER and was just wondering how much of a difference it will make on Silver. I know the difference is obvious on a black or dark colored car...

what about silver??

THANKS!!

OK - theres the flipside to zaino as well.

First - i do a customers silver vette twice a year - spring and fall. I barely notice a great deal of change in the shine - but he notices the fact that it is ptotected all summer. he parks it outside all spring, summer and fall (bad vette owner) and when it comes back to me in the fall - there is still a bit of protection left as evidenced by the water flow off the car when i wash it.

Why am i teling you this? Simple.

Zaino will oultast most everything else you will put on in the spring (2-3 coats) , so if you are not into weekly washings and detailing - this product saves you from that. Slap on some polish, (a few coats) and then occassional washes as needed with Zaino soap (to preserve the protection) and you are fairly done for the summer if you want to be. You could go crazy and start using the Z6 gloss enhancer as well - this "can" even avoid washing if you have a duster and the car is not dirty, just dusty.
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 10:23 AM
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I have just begun using the zaino, and it leaves a great shine. The thing is i dont have the ZFX, and i have still put on more then one coat in a day. Is this a problem. I washed it, I Z1'd it, then put on a coat of Z5, let it dry, wiped off, Z6'd, then came back like an hour later, California dusted it, then put on a coat of Z2, and Z6'd. Is this a problem puting on more then 1 coat without ZFX? I have done this 1 time, and then put on a single coat 2 other times for a total of 4 coates so far. Just wondering if doing this is bad in any way. Thanks
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Old Apr 22, 2002 | 12:31 PM
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second coat - non ZFX same day ?

you arent hurting anything - but you arent getting the full benefit of the durability . .. the top layer needs to cure properly before slapping on another. ZFX cures it near instantly - so there is no need to spread it out . ..

depending on heat and humidity - the actual cure time varies from 12-24 hours . . . without zfx
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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second coat - non ZFX same day ?

you arent hurting anything - but you arent getting the full benefit of the durability . .. the top layer needs to cure properly before slapping on another. ZFX cures it near instantly - so there is no need to spread it out . ..

depending on heat and humidity - the actual cure time varies from 12-24 hours . . . without zfx
O Ok, i thought you just had to wait till it dried, which i thought took like an hour or so, then wipe off. I assumed you could put another coat on right after that.....guess i was wrong.
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Originally posted by Dom418
...was just wondering how much of a difference it will make on Silver. I know the difference is obvious on a black or dark colored car...

what about silver??

THANKS!!
How bout this? The hood of my SSM 99 TL
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 01:59 PM
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O Ok, i thought you just had to wait till it dried, which i thought took like an hour or so, then wipe off. I assumed you could put another coat on right after that.....guess i was wrong.
theres the "dry time" you refer to - maybe up to an hour

then there is the 'cure time" - thats gonna vary from 8-24 hours - temp and humidity dependant

ZFX eliminates the cure time - for the 3 layers you can apply - then you have to wait it out till the next day

it also speeds up the dry time - really. and enhances the shine .
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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zaino website

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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 08:08 PM
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Zaino is great, I really learned to love it Although it would be great if you could buy it at the store. I guess, just plan ahead
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:00 PM
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so let me get this straight

i dawn wash the car.........claybar............rewash............m ix zfx with z5 and polish............let dry.............then apply another coat without zfx....................is this correct????..........and do i use z2 polish last?
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 10:18 PM
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Re: so let me get this straight

Originally posted by jts1207
i dawn wash the car.........claybar............rewash............m ix zfx with z5 and polish............let dry.............then apply another coat without zfx....................is this correct????..........and do i use z2 polish last?
1) Dawn.
2) Clay, using Z-7 car-wash soap as lube.
3) Rewash with Z-7 to remove any residue and dry the car.
4) Mix 4 drops ZFX with 1 oz of Z-5 if applying 3 coats in the same day.
5) Must let cure 24 hrs before applying anymore ZFX/Z-5 or ZFX/Z-2 or just plain Z-2. You can, at this 24-hr point, just put on a coat of Z-2, if you wish.
6) You can use Z-2 last, then interchange Z-5/Z-2 as much as you'd like.
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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so once i apply a zfx/z5 coat.......can i apply more or wait 24 hours............and finally do i need to mix zfx every time i apply a coat of z2/z5.......thanks
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Old Apr 23, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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so once i apply a zfx/z5 coat.......can i apply more or wait 24 hours............and finally do i need to mix zfx every time i apply a coat of z2/z5.......thanks
You can apply up to 3 coats of ZFX/Z5 in one day. You don't have to mix ZFX every time you apply a coat of Z2 or Z5
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 09:19 AM
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remember - if you dont mix in ZFX - you should only do one coat per day -

and just because it doesnt say it anywhere above, and I dont want anyone confused . . .

wipe each coat off before applying the next

seriously - i did have a customer ask me about that . ..
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