Zaino in high humidity?
#1
Zaino in high humidity?
Greetings to all. Im glad I found this site. I have read a lot about zaino and it sounds like the best. I have a 2006 TL NPB/Ebony 5sp w/Navi I bought on June 24th i have washed it once and what ever the dealer did to it in the 2 hour prep time. There a a few very light spider web type scrathes but only in the sun.
1st: In central Fla this time of year the humidity is very high, If I use zaino how much longer will it take the z2 or z5 to dry? I have read the high heat makes it dry faster and not to add the zfx. To zfx or not to zfx?
2nd: Z2 all the way through or first coat with z5 then remaing coats z2?
3rd: My wife has her detail guy coming to do her SUV on Thursday. He said he would do my TL but he uses Liquid Glass. I am not sure if I want him using LG on my new car(it may be a month before I can do the first zaino application). Should I let a pro use LG or his he gonna make more work for me in the long run? Am I better off washing it every few days and hoping the stuff the dealer put on will last till I get to the zaino?
Thanks for all your help.
Bags
1st: In central Fla this time of year the humidity is very high, If I use zaino how much longer will it take the z2 or z5 to dry? I have read the high heat makes it dry faster and not to add the zfx. To zfx or not to zfx?
2nd: Z2 all the way through or first coat with z5 then remaing coats z2?
3rd: My wife has her detail guy coming to do her SUV on Thursday. He said he would do my TL but he uses Liquid Glass. I am not sure if I want him using LG on my new car(it may be a month before I can do the first zaino application). Should I let a pro use LG or his he gonna make more work for me in the long run? Am I better off washing it every few days and hoping the stuff the dealer put on will last till I get to the zaino?
Thanks for all your help.
Bags
#2
Originally Posted by FL Leo
1st: In central Fla this time of year the humidity is very high, If I use zaino how much longer will it take the z2 or z5 to dry? I have read the high heat makes it dry faster and not to add the zfx. To zfx or not to zfx?
It's hard to say how long it will take Zaino to dry. I have found it is much more a function of how thinly you are able to apply it (you can't apply it too thinly). In southern California, my experience was that I needed to wait about 30 minutes after applying it to the whole car (so probably close to a 1-hour total drying time). To test if it was dry, I would just run my finger on the car where I first applied it, and if the wax was completely removed I would then do the rest of the whole car with a microfiber towel. It is that easy to remove when dry.
I know some have said you can skip the ZFX in extreme heat. But I never did, and would recommend against it especially if you have high humidity. If when removing the product, you see smearing and/or streaking, then it isn't fully dry. Give it more time to dry, and use and instant detailer to remove the streaking/smearing.
My normal routine was 1-coat of Z-5 and 2-coats of Z-2 but if I were to do it over again, and your car is in very good condition (sounds like it is), then I would skip the Z-5. However, I would recommend you clay your car first to remove surface contamination and the dealer prep, and I would skip the LG if you plan on using Zaino in a month.
Also, as I am sure you are aware, unless you plan on using Z-PC, Zaino will only hide the spider-webbing, it won't remove it.
#4
Originally Posted by FL Leo
Greetings to all. Im glad I found this site. I have read a lot about zaino and it sounds like the best. I have a 2006 TL NPB/Ebony 5sp w/Navi I bought on June 24th i have washed it once and what ever the dealer did to it in the 2 hour prep time. There a a few very light spider web type scrathes but only in the sun.
1st: In central Fla this time of year the humidity is very high, If I use zaino how much longer will it take the z2 or z5 to dry? I have read the high heat makes it dry faster and not to add the zfx. To zfx or not to zfx?
2nd: Z2 all the way through or first coat with z5 then remaing coats z2?
3rd: My wife has her detail guy coming to do her SUV on Thursday. He said he would do my TL but he uses Liquid Glass. I am not sure if I want him using LG on my new car(it may be a month before I can do the first zaino application). Should I let a pro use LG or his he gonna make more work for me in the long run? Am I better off washing it every few days and hoping the stuff the dealer put on will last till I get to the zaino?
Thanks for all your help.
Bags
1st: In central Fla this time of year the humidity is very high, If I use zaino how much longer will it take the z2 or z5 to dry? I have read the high heat makes it dry faster and not to add the zfx. To zfx or not to zfx?
2nd: Z2 all the way through or first coat with z5 then remaing coats z2?
3rd: My wife has her detail guy coming to do her SUV on Thursday. He said he would do my TL but he uses Liquid Glass. I am not sure if I want him using LG on my new car(it may be a month before I can do the first zaino application). Should I let a pro use LG or his he gonna make more work for me in the long run? Am I better off washing it every few days and hoping the stuff the dealer put on will last till I get to the zaino?
Thanks for all your help.
Bags
Congratulations on the new TL! I have the exact same color/combo.
The high humidity will make the curing time take longer. I would use ZFX for the first, initial layer and subsequent layers if you want to put more coats on in a 24 hour period. Otherwise, you can only put one coat per 24 hour period without ZFX .
I would just let the Pro put on the Liquid Glass as it sounds like you won't have your Zaino for a while, leaving your new paint unprotected. Do you know if the Pro is going to polish your swirls out?
I would HIGHLY recommend a clear bra for your car. I put one on and it has prevented many chips on the front of the car. I had an '02 Black Maxima for three years and the front was pitted from rocks.
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Originally Posted by FL Leo
thanks for the advice. I will do a search for the clear bra I don't know anything about them.
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#12
Originally Posted by FL Leo
Micvog...If you stopped using zaino what are you using now? And why did you stop?
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Right now I am using Mothers Reflections Car Wax and Top Coat. Car Wax is a very light cleaner/polymer sealant blend, and Top Coat is a cleaner-free polymer sealant/carnauba blend (i.e. you can layer the latter without removing existing product). I also use a clay bar as needed (just finished using up the last of my Z-18), and Mothers California Gold Car Wash and Showtime Detailer weekly (I like to use products from the same manufacturer). When I run out of product I might be tempted to pick up some Four Star from ExcelDetail based on a number of other posts here. That being said, I have been extremely pleased with Reflections in both appearance and durability.
I have nothing bad to say about the Zaino product itself. However, I did have a customer service issue and my distributor and Sal pointed the finger at the other claiming the other party was at fault (the distributor claimed Zaino sent a defective batch of product since he had complaints from a number of long-time customers; Zaino claimed the distributor didn't store the product properly). They refused to handle it after two follow-up e-mails, and I am a stubborn SOB, so they lost a customer for life.
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congrats and welcome. I also live in fl, but wit a ssm tl. You can drop by if u need any help, just pm me. (live in daytona beach) I usually put the zaino on the car, then put it in the garage with the door closed and let it sit on there for about 1 hour. Then i just buff off.
#14
Sorry to hear about your dissagreement. I am still doing some reading on what to use.
i havent comitted to zaino yet but I thought the humidity issue might be a problem. There are so many products out there and it seems that no two people agree on the same one. I just want my black car to look god without spider webs and light scratches. I am more interested in protecting the finish than it looking like a show car. Its an every day driver. I should probably start a new thread and ask what everyone else is using on the black cars or post my goals and see what comes out.
Hey I was born in Daytona, Shouldnt be hard to find. If I end up using zaino i may take you up on your offer. Do you do it all by hand or do you use a machine?
Thanks again to all who responded.
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i havent comitted to zaino yet but I thought the humidity issue might be a problem. There are so many products out there and it seems that no two people agree on the same one. I just want my black car to look god without spider webs and light scratches. I am more interested in protecting the finish than it looking like a show car. Its an every day driver. I should probably start a new thread and ask what everyone else is using on the black cars or post my goals and see what comes out.
Hey I was born in Daytona, Shouldnt be hard to find. If I end up using zaino i may take you up on your offer. Do you do it all by hand or do you use a machine?
Thanks again to all who responded.
i
#15
As you stated, there are a number of products one can choose from. Zaino is an excellent product and very popular with quite a few AZ members. There is also a good number of folks who like other products as well, for example Four Star UPP. Not saying Brand X is better than Brand Y. They all have one purpose - protect. Longevity, durability, cost, ease of use, upkeep and maintainability are some other factors to consider. I think the bottom line is - if you like the results of whatever you're using, that's all good.
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#17
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i do both, but i preferrer to use a buffer to do because it makes it muck quicker
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