wash soap questions. pls help~
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wash soap questions. pls help~
I just bought a car soap today, name: SIMONIZ (GEL) ( CAR WASH LAVE-AUTO)
is it good? or there is no different? it won't hurt the paint and wax (just waxed my TL )
will it?
thanx for ur help
is it good? or there is no different? it won't hurt the paint and wax (just waxed my TL )
will it?
thanx for ur help
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Originally Posted by mio
I just bought a car soap today, name: SIMONIZ (GEL) ( CAR WASH LAVE-AUTO)
is it good? or there is no different? it won't hurt the paint and wax (just waxed my TL )
will it?
thanx for ur help
is it good? or there is no different? it won't hurt the paint and wax (just waxed my TL )
will it?
thanx for ur help
sounds like your safe to me
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Good choice, although theres better, the Simoniz as indicated in the above post will not harm your wax. It may not be the sudsiest, nontheless, good choice!
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Originally Posted by TSX7
I use Meguiar's Deep Crystal car wash and it works well. The scent attracts bugs right after I wash it though.
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You can get a truly HUGE bottle of the Megs Gold Class at Costco for same price as the somewhat huge bottle at Target. I just used it after switching from Mothers (loved the bublegum smell) and it was very slick and sudsy. Just my
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Lots of choices
Almost any brand that you recognize and that is clearly labeled "Car Wash" will do a safe and adequate job.
Some are packaged fancy and cost a little more but it's not rocket science. It's a controlled pH and it is not a grease-cutting detergent. Those will strip the wax and sealant and are hard on your plastic and rubber parts.
The specialized Car Washes are surfactants, water softeners, and lubricants to lift the film and surface debris and let it slide off while leaving the protection in place. Most people like lots of suds. It reminds them of those topless girls washing cars in the porno films. :wink:
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Some are packaged fancy and cost a little more but it's not rocket science. It's a controlled pH and it is not a grease-cutting detergent. Those will strip the wax and sealant and are hard on your plastic and rubber parts.
The specialized Car Washes are surfactants, water softeners, and lubricants to lift the film and surface debris and let it slide off while leaving the protection in place. Most people like lots of suds. It reminds them of those topless girls washing cars in the porno films. :wink:
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A liquid that will remove wax / sealant needs to be alkaline (pH 8.0+) there are a few car wash concentrates that are pH 8.0+ (and some liquids i.e. Dawn)
Having said that you are using 1-2 oz of a pH 7.0 in a gallon of water, if the source water has a high (or low) pH a few ounces won’t counteract it.
Suds have nothing to do with cleaning ability-
When natural soap was the only cleaning medium available ionic foam (suds) ‘indicated’ that the elements in hard water (surfactants react to calcium, magnesium, iron and other trace elements in hard water by treating them as soils, which depletes the cleaning agents) had been precipitated and enough cleaning agent (soap) remained in the solution to accomplish the washing process.
To remove soils the surface tension that bonds them must be released, then the soils encapsulated and held in suspension to be rinsed away. Many soaps and detergents where rejected by the general public because they did not contain a foaming agent (suds). Manufacturers added specific foaming (mainly sodium) agents that would produce suds. Rinsing the surface, more than washing alone ensures cleaning efficiency, so the washing process is more efficient using a cleaning agent that contains an anionic (very low foaming agent) than one that produces lots of suds (See also Detergents)
Information resource: New Scientist, various articles. 2001 – 2004, http://www.envirosan.com/s2foam.html
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Having said that you are using 1-2 oz of a pH 7.0 in a gallon of water, if the source water has a high (or low) pH a few ounces won’t counteract it.
Suds have nothing to do with cleaning ability-
When natural soap was the only cleaning medium available ionic foam (suds) ‘indicated’ that the elements in hard water (surfactants react to calcium, magnesium, iron and other trace elements in hard water by treating them as soils, which depletes the cleaning agents) had been precipitated and enough cleaning agent (soap) remained in the solution to accomplish the washing process.
To remove soils the surface tension that bonds them must be released, then the soils encapsulated and held in suspension to be rinsed away. Many soaps and detergents where rejected by the general public because they did not contain a foaming agent (suds). Manufacturers added specific foaming (mainly sodium) agents that would produce suds. Rinsing the surface, more than washing alone ensures cleaning efficiency, so the washing process is more efficient using a cleaning agent that contains an anionic (very low foaming agent) than one that produces lots of suds (See also Detergents)
Information resource: New Scientist, various articles. 2001 – 2004, http://www.envirosan.com/s2foam.html
JonM
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Originally Posted by stogie1020
You can get a truly HUGE bottle of the Megs Gold Class at Costco for same price as the somewhat huge bottle at Target. I just used it after switching from Mothers (loved the bublegum smell) and it was very slick and sudsy. Just my
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