Metallic Silver
Originally Posted by yacro
Whats the best polish and wax to use on my metallic Silver? Is Klasse a good choice as I heard NXT doesn't work well on light colored cars.
Silver does not offer as much reflectivity as dark colors but displays a lot of clarity and does not show a lot of swirls and scratches. Once you do a good job on the clearcoat, you will notice your finish "pop". That is the metallic will seem to glow and the silver will look brighter. This is my second SSM Acura and will not mind the same color on my next one.
I worked on the finish the first time I picked it up and despite what they say about a car that was PDI'd by the dealer, the clay bar was almost gray (tells you there's a lot of contaminants on the clearcoat).
First one I tried was an old school sealant product called Liquid Glass. The shine was great, but it had a lot of powdery residue and also attracted a lot of dust. But when I tried Klasse (AIO then 3 coats of Sealant Glaze) then the shine began to pop. The AIO seem to deep clean the finish and deeply polish it as well. The SG just adds like a coat of elastic transparent seal on it to hold the shine (apparently good for at least 6 months) This is my "proven" (at least for now) combination topped off with P21S carnauba wax. Probably the best thing I did to the finish so far. The best test is at night-when filling up, when the lights from the gas station overhang makes the silver bright.
Search "Klasse" on the Wash and Wax forum and you will find an abundance of opinions especially from some of our resident pros who don't hesitate to share years of experience. Also search for the proper steps to apply this product. PM me if want to know some more.
NXT will work but not as obvious on silver as it will on blue or black. Zaino is also geared for medium to dark colors as well.
I think Vicman hit on a secret ... the lighter colors don't have as much "depth". To make them look really good, I have had the best results with 3-4 coats of a layerable polymer. I used to use Liquid Glass as well, I now use Menzerna but it's kind of expensive.
NXT isn't so great on light colors because it doesn't layer well. Alot of people on here like Zaino, but I've never used it 'cause there's a lot of chemistry to figure out. (All the numbers make my brain hurt).
Find yourself a good polymer without polishes that can be layered and give it a good three shots with at least 24 hours between coats so it adheres well. You can spread it out over a couple of weeks. (I usually do coat 1 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday then wash and coat 3 the following weekend.)
NXT isn't so great on light colors because it doesn't layer well. Alot of people on here like Zaino, but I've never used it 'cause there's a lot of chemistry to figure out. (All the numbers make my brain hurt).
Find yourself a good polymer without polishes that can be layered and give it a good three shots with at least 24 hours between coats so it adheres well. You can spread it out over a couple of weeks. (I usually do coat 1 on Saturday, 2 on Sunday then wash and coat 3 the following weekend.)
Polymer sealants have an in-built property that can be used to good advantage on light coloured paint (inc silver)
Polymer films reflectivity results in a very bright, flat silver glow to the paint film surface. Using Souveran Carnauba as a LSP could counteract the ‘flatness’
The aesthetics of a vehicles appearance is very subjective to say the least, the only best wax or sealant that really matters is what looks 'best' to you...
JonM
Polymer films reflectivity results in a very bright, flat silver glow to the paint film surface. Using Souveran Carnauba as a LSP could counteract the ‘flatness’
The aesthetics of a vehicles appearance is very subjective to say the least, the only best wax or sealant that really matters is what looks 'best' to you...
JonM
Last edited by TOGWT; May 18, 2005 at 08:00 AM.
One reason why I tried Klasse was the fact that it was a water-based product and did not give off that nasty kerosene odor like Liquid Glass does. It gave me much better results and the fact that I just had to let it cure for about 24 hrs. and put another layer (Sealant Glaze) was much less tedious than the procedure I used with LG- letting it "bake" out in the sun for a few hours and then re-washing the car.
As far as the Carnauba, I initially used Meg's #26 HTYW and it was OK but I find that the car's lines were much more defined with reflection using S100. All I can say is that it was well worth the effort. When you get praises one or two a day, it makes it worthwhile.
As far as the Carnauba, I initially used Meg's #26 HTYW and it was OK but I find that the car's lines were much more defined with reflection using S100. All I can say is that it was well worth the effort. When you get praises one or two a day, it makes it worthwhile.
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Took the wasy way out and used the NTX wax on my metallic silver TSX. The reason is that I just don't have the time required for Klasse (besides, I was worried that they haven't changed the formula in 25 years!). My car looks great though... definitely has that "mirror" shine quality I like. Ended up using it on my old Accord and my dad's Cadillac (black and silver). Worked great on each too.
Quote: besides, I was worried that they haven't changed the formula in 25 years!).
I can definitely see this as problematic I’ve been using Klasse since the late ‘50s its always worked very well, but when are they going to change it [no wait that should be WHY would they want to change it/]
JonM
I can definitely see this as problematic I’ve been using Klasse since the late ‘50s its always worked very well, but when are they going to change it [no wait that should be WHY would they want to change it/]
JonM
Quick question... Do you guys wash your car in between applications of the Klasse SG? I have a carport and if I'm leaving the SG on for 24 hours I can see some dust/dirt landing on the car in between sessions.
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After 24 hours, your car may not be that dirty, unless it rained or your drove on some dirt roads. You can use some quick detailer to get those dust you see off, then proceed to your second application of SG.
Everything is in the prep of the paint, even on light colored cars.
Here is a Porsche, silver, that was polished with one product then waxed with one product. So two steps is all that I did and it took about an hour and 30 minutes, including the washing.

Another pic of a Z car

Anthony
Here is a Porsche, silver, that was polished with one product then waxed with one product. So two steps is all that I did and it took about an hour and 30 minutes, including the washing.

Another pic of a Z car

Anthony
Sorry, but one more question.
So you wash, AIO, SG, let sit 24 hours, wipe off, SG again, let sit 24 hours, wipe off, and repeat? Or do you let the SG sit for a little while, then wipe off and reapply after 24 hours? I'm always a little worried with the SG after reading that it can sometimes be hard to remove.
So you wash, AIO, SG, let sit 24 hours, wipe off, SG again, let sit 24 hours, wipe off, and repeat? Or do you let the SG sit for a little while, then wipe off and reapply after 24 hours? I'm always a little worried with the SG after reading that it can sometimes be hard to remove.
Actually, you can wait about 30 minutes to wipe the SG off. The 24-hour wait thing is in between layers. You have to wait at least 24 hours in order to layer on another coat of SG. If you encounter some spots where the SG is hard to remove, spray a little of QD and wipe it off. It works perfectly. Sometimes, I just use my breath since some spots are extremely little.
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