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Old 01-27-2006, 04:09 PM
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Exhausted form claying

today i was bored and decided to start claying. it took me 2 hours to do JUST the hood, 1 fender and 1.5 doors. i noticed that if you press harder, EVERY SINGLE speck and rust spot will come off so i got real excited and just went at it. im hoping to finish the whole car by tmw and then i will polish and wax. it just sucks cus im doing it all by hand and my wrist is killing me. ill be sure to post pics.
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can you do mine please ? i've never done it
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Originally Posted by NYZGREATST
today i was bored and decided to start claying. it took me 2 hours to do JUST the hood, 1 fender and 1.5 doors. i noticed that if you press harder, EVERY SINGLE speck and rust spot will come off so i got real excited and just went at it. im hoping to finish the whole car by tmw and then i will polish and wax. it just sucks cus im doing it all by hand and my wrist is killing me. ill be sure to post pics.
You may want to read this about claying. There really is no need to apply heavy pressure or rub harder when you clay, you may scuff or mar the surface. Properly lubed, clay was designed to glide over the surface with light to medium pressure. You will have some resistance at first which means the clay is doing what it's supposed to do. Subsequent passes will be easier indicating the painted surface is cleaned.

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can you do mine please ? i've never done it
Oh no, here we go again. See this thread and also this one on claying.
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Originally Posted by Hawhyen51
You may want to read this about claying. There really is no need to apply heavy pressure or rub harder when you clay, you may scuff or mar the surface. Properly lubed, clay was designed to glide over the surface with light to medium pressure. You will have some resistance at first which means the clay is doing what it's supposed to do. Subsequent passes will be easier indicating the painted surface is cleaned.


Oh no, here we go again. See this thread and also this one on claying.

i tried just passing over the same spot over and over but most of the specs and rust spots didnt come off until i rubbed a little harder. i figure i can get the scuffs i create out with a nice wax job tmw
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Your going to have to polish to remove the marring you have created with the excessive pressure. Which is ok, you accomplished your goal, just use some nice polish and you'll be fine, then seal....
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It does take a while to clay,.....but when you are all finished with all the detailing of your car,...........its worth it. I wanna see some pics.
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If you have rust spots, a decontamination system would help. I have used the ABC system and it made short work of rust spots on a white car.
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Your going to have to polish to remove the marring you have created with the excessive pressure. Which is ok, you accomplished your goal, just use some nice polish and you'll be fine, then seal....
yep im gonna use meguires deep crystal polish after the clay and then meguires the gold class wax. im gonna try and wake up real early and get her done by 1ish.
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Gonna need pics when its all said and done.

Claying wears me out too, but the feel of the car afterwards is silky smooth.
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Originally Posted by NYZGREATST
i tried just passing over the same spot over and over but most of the specs and rust spots didnt come off until i rubbed a little harder. i figure i can get the scuffs i create out with a nice wax job tmw
I did the same thing. There were no scuffs even when I rubbed the clay with a lot of pressure. It's a pain in the butt to keep PWP clean.
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Guys, your not suppose to be exhausted after claying, seriously...If your getting tired, your applying waaaay too much pressure.
Just use the clay until it glides smoothly over the surface. After that, theres very little its going to do for you, even with additional pressure. Also, make sure you fold the clay over while using it, especially if the cars never been clayed before...
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I think all the times I've clayed. I've taken less than 2 hours for the entire car!
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Originally Posted by einsatz
I think all the times I've clayed. I've taken less than 2 hours for the entire car!
Im thinkin 30 minutes tops !
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Most of the times it will be 30min. Unless the car has never been detailed and there's sap and everything that's been embedded. All you're doing is basically moving the piece of clay back and forth quickly over the paint.
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I did it for the first time today and it took 30-45 minutes tops.
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Guys, your not suppose to be exhausted after claying, seriously...If your getting tired, your applying waaaay too much pressure.
Just use the clay until it glides smoothly over the surface. After that, theres very little its going to do for you, even with additional pressure. Also, make sure you fold the clay over while using it, especially if the cars never been clayed before...

that may be true for most colors but on a white car EVERY spec and rust spot is visible and with some pressure it ALL comes off. if i keep going back and forth until its smooth, some of the spots still wouldnt come off. regardless, i finished claying and also polished her up. tmw ill throw some gold class wax on her and hopefully take some pics.
Old 01-29-2006, 11:30 AM
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just finished 1 coat of wax and now its raining :sigh: i took some pictures off my old digicam but its not uploading to my computer. car looks real nice and smooth but white cars are very bad in photos anyways. i used this polish and wax for the first and i LOVE it. hopefully i can take pics on tuesday when the sun comes out with a better camera
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Originally Posted by xtin
I did it for the first time today and it took 30-45 minutes tops.
So, who provided the visual training? Now, was that easy or what?
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I detailed my Royal Blue 06 TL this weekend, 1 hour to poly clay, 2 hours to polish, 2 hours to glaze, 1 hour to wax and 1 hour on the seats and dash for a total of 7 hours.

I'm glad this only needs to be done twice a year!
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Originally Posted by CFIMEI
I detailed my Royal Blue 06 TL this weekend, 1 hour to poly clay, 2 hours to polish, 2 hours to glaze, 1 hour to wax and 1 hour on the seats and dash for a total of 7 hours.

I'm glad this only needs to be done twice a year!
deyum 2 hours to polish? hmmm.... maybe i didnt polish right. its the same process as a wax job right?
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Originally Posted by NYZGREATST
deyum 2 hours to polish? hmmm.... maybe i didnt polish right. its the same process as a wax job right?
Nope, the polish cleans the surface, it removes minor defects, scratches, swirls, etc., it prepares the surface for the glaze and/or wax.

The process I used was a combination of Blackfire and Menzerna products.

1. Clay the car with the Blackfire Poly Clay
2. Polish the car with Menzerna Final Polish II and a Porter Cable 7424
3. Apply Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze using the Porter Cable 7424
4. Wax the car with Menzerna FMJ using the Porter Cable 7424
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Yeah, if you're serious about claying your car, be ready to devote some serious time to it. Also, the amount of pressure you put on the clay itself is irrelevant. It's not the pressure, but the amount of times you go over the same area that will have an effect.
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Originally Posted by Hawhyen51
So, who provided the visual training? Now, was that easy or what?
KilroyR1. My hero!
You know, the point is this.

I can put in a swan line to monitor the pressure in your heart using a major artery in your neck.

I can open your ribcage and all but transplant a new heart into your body, connecting all blood supplies along the way

I can take a vein from your lower leg to use for a triple or even quadruple bypass surgery.

Yeah, I could read about all of these procedures in a book or online but until I SAW them happen before me, I really had no idea how it worked.

Now that Ive seen it once, I can show someone else(like my boyfriend who is intrigued by the whole clay thing) and do it myself from now on.
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Originally Posted by CFIMEI
Nope, the polish cleans the surface, it removes minor defects, scratches, swirls, etc., it prepares the surface for the glaze and/or wax.

The process I used was a combination of Blackfire and Menzerna products.

1. Clay the car with the Blackfire Poly Clay
2. Polish the car with Menzerna Final Polish II and a Porter Cable 7424
3. Apply Menzerna Finishing Touch Glaze using the Porter Cable 7424
4. Wax the car with Menzerna FMJ using the Porter Cable 7424
You spent 2 hours putting polish on a brand new car

How many beer breaks did you take
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Originally Posted by xtin
KilroyR1. My hero!
You know, the point is this.

I can put in a swan line to monitor the pressure in your heart using a major artery in your neck.

I can open your ribcage and all but transplant a new heart into your body, connecting all blood supplies along the way

I can take a vein from your lower leg to use for a triple or even quadruple bypass surgery.

Yeah, I could read about all of these procedures in a book or online but until I SAW them happen before me, I really had no idea how it worked.

Now that Ive seen it once, I can show someone else(like my boyfriend who is intrigued by the whole clay thing) and do it myself from now on.
Congrats, next thing is a PC making detailing a short and sweet process. When Spring/Summer comes around, you'll be a detailing queen. Go, girl!
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i spent 15 minutes going through the car wash the other night. it was exhuasting!
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Originally Posted by jiggaman
i spent 15 minutes going through the car wash the other night. it was exhuasting!
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