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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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brake dust?

any one having problems with their tl acculumating a lot of brake dust in the front wheel ? i find that its annoying when i wash them off and in a week it comes back... what to do ?
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Yea my front wheels accumulate a lot of dust too. But then again it is a front wheel drive car so they are going to accumulate more dust than the rear wheels. I just wash mine every week when I wash my car. Was having a hard time getting ALL the dust off with just the soap and water until last week when I actually bought some wheel cleaner..

I think that is the one I got... but just disintegrates all dust and makes my stockies amazingly clean and shiny.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:04 PM
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Welcome to the world of TL's-especially Type S models with Brembo brakes.. You might search in the Wash & Wax section of the site for more.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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^dont forget 6mt owners :[ brake dust ftl... I try putting on some poorboys wheel sealant, but brake dust just keeps coming back
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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Flip side is right. It is recommended that you wax the wheels when you wax your car. That won't stop brake dust from getting on your wheels though. Even on my other cars, I just got used to wiping down my wheels every few days. But I like mine to look VERY clean, so that's my timetable.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 01:18 PM
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microfiber rag... no chemicals needed... chemicals are needed if you leave the brake dust there for a over a month tho
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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If you have a 3G non-TLS with a manual transmission, you automatically have Brembo front brakes which also means you automatically get to enjoy the rapid accrual of brake dust. This is why I replaced my factory pads with a set of Rotex Gold Kevlars in the spring of 2006 on my '04 TL. A slight loss of braking power, but about 80-90% less dusting.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 01:53 PM
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Wash them twice a week.

You must have the brembos. They use semi-metallic pads instead of carbon and that is the nature of the beast. There may be some aftermarket supplier that makes a lower dust replacement (hawk or ebc?)

BMW's are notorious of this
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
If you have a 3G non-TLS with a manual transmission, you automatically have Brembo front brakes which also means you automatically get to enjoy the rapid accrual of brake dust. This is why I replaced my factory pads with a set of Rotex Gold Kevlars in the spring of 2006 on my '04 TL. A slight loss of braking power, but about 80-90% less dusting.
Thanks for the info .... I will go this route when it's time to replace my pads ... sick of the brake dust ...
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by codog11
Wash them twice a week.

You must have the brembos. They use semi-metallic pads instead of carbon and that is the nature of the beast. There may be some aftermarket supplier that makes a lower dust replacement (hawk or ebc?)

BMW's are notorious of this
Haha, thank god our OE wheels are only 5 big spokes and not 20 like some BMW wheels... I shudder just thinking about having to clean one of those.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Hawk Ceramic pads FTW.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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All vehicles, no matter if front or rear wheel drive, will use the front brakes more than the rears. Something like 70% front and 30% in the rear. If you look at any car that hasn't been washed in a while, you will see the front wheels/hubcaps are darker in appearance than the rears.

The front of a car is less likely to break traction than the rears. This is due to more weight in the front + weight transfer when stopping. Because of this, they are given more authority in the brake system.

As for sacrificing stopping power for less dust, I don't know that I would do such a thing. Stick with the safest solution and put some kind of wax on the wheels as mentioned earlier. Washing every other week will prevent the need for strong chemicals that may hurt the wheel's finish.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trew
All vehicles, no matter if front or rear wheel drive, will use the front brakes more than the rears. Something like 70% front and 30% in the rear. If you look at any car that hasn't been washed in a while, you will see the front wheels/hubcaps are darker in appearance than the rears.

The front of a car is less likely to break traction than the rears. This is due to more weight in the front + weight transfer when stopping. Because of this, they are given more authority in the brake system.

As for sacrificing stopping power for less dust, I don't know that I would do such a thing. Stick with the safest solution and put some kind of wax on the wheels as mentioned earlier. Washing every other week will prevent the need for strong chemicals that may hurt the wheel's finish.
The slight loss of braking efficiency with the Rotex pads would really only be a consideration for someone who drives their TL hard or who races their car. There is no question that the stock pads would be a better way to go under those circumstances. However, for normal street driving, you should be just fine with the replacements I mentioned.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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Another thing with the stock pads used with the TL Brembo brakes is their wide mileage spread in life expectancy. I have heard of people on this site who have gotten under 20,000 miles on their factory set. I replaced mine at 25,000 miles and I estimated that there was another 30+ thousand miles left in them (I still have them in my garage). I have a next door neighbor who has an '05 manual TL and he has just passed the 70,000 mile mark with his stock pads. I was examining them this past Friday evening and I believe he has maybe another 10,000 miles left in them based upon is driving (commute, use, etc). I'll probably install my used pads on his car because if he gets a new set of pads without new rotors, he will run the risk of getting to the point of not having enough rotor material left when those pads are ready to be replaced.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthernBoy
Another thing with the stock pads used with the TL Brembo brakes is their wide mileage spread in life expectancy. I have heard of people on this site who have gotten under 20,000 miles on their factory set. I replaced mine at 25,000 miles and I estimated that there was another 30+ thousand miles left in them (I still have them in my garage). I have a next door neighbor who has an '05 manual TL and he has just passed the 70,000 mile mark with his stock pads. I was examining them this past Friday evening and I believe he has maybe another 10,000 miles left in them based upon is driving (commute, use, etc). I'll probably install my used pads on his car because if he gets a new set of pads without new rotors, he will run the risk of getting to the point of not having enough rotor material left when those pads are ready to be replaced.
Impressive..I guess I got another good 50k on my pads. but dam the dust really bites ya in the ass..
I hate having to wash the car every week jus because of the dust. maybe one every other week is fine..but dam i think its time for me to change my pads out, cant stand the dust!! Any reviews for the RB 300 pads?
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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I replace my factory Brembo pads at 63,500. They probably had another 5-10K left on them. I really liked the Brembo's for their great stopping power, but I wanted to try something else that maybe wouldn't produce so much dust.

I replaced them with Racing Brake ET300s. No loss of braking, zero dust (yes, that's right) and 2/3 the cost of the brembos! I really am pleased and probably will use these from here on out. Only have about 2000 miles on them so far, so can say anything about rate of wear yet.
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Old Nov 2, 2008 | 08:55 PM
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my stocker brembos all around lasted me 10-12k miles...
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 12:21 AM
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Hawk Ceramic pads FTW.

i agree. i love the hawk pads i have on my g35coupe. now that i've bought a tl, thats gonna be one of the first things i upgrade.
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 07:57 AM
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i have the same problem, just gotta keep em clean
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nfnsquared
I replaced them with Racing Brake ET300s. No loss of braking, zero dust (yes, that's right) and 2/3 the cost of the brembos! I really am pleased and probably will use these from here on out. Only have about 2000 miles on them so far, so can say anything about rate of wear yet.
Wow, talk about impressive. Does anyone else have a similar experience with the ET300's ????
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Old Nov 3, 2008 | 11:34 PM
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I've never heard of Racing Brake ET300s but I'll definitely look into them when I replace my brake pads again.
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