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Old 08-02-2005 | 01:31 PM
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After claying your car...

Can you just use Polish (ie Klasse AIO) or do you have to wash before you polish?


same after you polish, can you just use a seal or wax?



here's what I plan on doing...

wash car
clay car (Gold clay bar)
wash car
polish (Klasse AIO)
wax/seal (Meg Gold Class...want to use NXT but want to use this up first)


Is that ok? if you have better suggestions let me know...
Old 08-02-2005 | 01:33 PM
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BTW...I have a Satin Silver TSX
Old 08-02-2005 | 01:44 PM
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That's what I was planning to do (but with differenct products).

jlukja, who thinks its fine but will wait for the pros to chime in.
Old 08-02-2005 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
That's what I was planning to do (but with differenct products).

jlukja, who thinks its fine but will wait for the pros to chime in.
I'm not a pro, but it would be fine if you were to polish after claying because the polish, especially AIO with its cleaning abilities would remove whatever residue the claying process may have made.

To even save a step, you could also clay as your washing and use the car wash solution as a lube. As far as your last step process goes, with the products you got listed, I would apply a layer of NXT first and then add a layer of Gold Class as a topper. I use #26 on top of NXT on my SSM and it really makes the metallic flakes pop.

Good luck and have fun!

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Old 08-02-2005 | 04:10 PM
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Im too lazy, i just polish after claying without washing.
Old 08-02-2005 | 07:03 PM
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I'd wash it first, just to get any leftover residue off.
Old 08-02-2005 | 07:06 PM
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Theres really no need to wash, polishing after claying is nearly mandatory, and does not require a post clay wash.....We all know polishing removes contaminants, why would you want to wash what polish will remove ?
Old 08-02-2005 | 07:15 PM
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no, not another 3rd person Junkster!

i agree w/errbody else, clay then polish, no need to wash
Old 08-02-2005 | 08:31 PM
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It really depends on the "polish" you use. If its AIO, no problem since it has cleaners in it. If your using Zaino, which isnt technically a polish, then you should wash and wipe down with Z6
Old 08-03-2005 | 01:03 AM
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Joe, that's one big a$$ mandolin in your avatar-do you play it like Tom Hanks played the keyboard in "Big"?
Old 08-03-2005 | 09:15 AM
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how long should I let the Klasse AIO settle before wiping it off?
Old 08-03-2005 | 10:42 AM
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About a minute, maybe less, then buff it off with a MF polishing towel. Do a section at a time.
Old 08-03-2005 | 10:58 AM
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AIO doesn't need to sit for long, perhaps a minute or so. If you do a panel at a time, by the time you reach the end of the panel, the first part will be ready to buff.

On the other hand, it's a good idea to let the SG sit for a while, perhaps a few hours or more.
Old 08-03-2005 | 11:35 AM
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I'll take some before and after pictures for you guys. I'm hoping to get my Klasse AIO by Friday to start detail my car inside and out. Can't wait!
Old 08-03-2005 | 04:54 PM
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Get some Nattys paste or S100 to put on top of AIO... i love that mix.
Old 08-03-2005 | 05:22 PM
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no, not another 3rd person Junkster!
Old 08-03-2005 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dark inspire
i agree w/errbody else, clay then polish, no need to wash
and again...
Old 08-03-2005 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 65 Fury Convert
Hey, its not like I do it all the time.

jlukja, who ....... ah it!
Old 08-03-2005 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Hey, its not like I do it all the time.

jlukja, who ....... ah it!

Old 08-05-2005 | 10:05 AM
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If I buy NXT


Should I put that on before or after I do the Gold Class?

so should it be

Polish
Gold Class
NXT


or


Polish
NXT
Gold Class


Which would be better?
Old 08-05-2005 | 11:08 AM
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I say Polish - NXT - Gold Class if you want to use all those products.

NXT has some cleaning abilities so put it on before Gold Class or else it can get rid of some Gold class if you put it last.
Old 08-05-2005 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Savio
If I buy NXT

Should I put that on before or after I do the Gold Class?

so should it be

Polish
Gold Class
NXT

or

Polish
NXT
Gold Class

Which would be better?
Rule of thumb is Carnuba on top of sealant. When you put Carnuba under sealant, may as well forget putting the sealant on for all the good that it will do you. As the wax melts/evaporates, the sealant goes with it.

Now that being said, I have seen conflicting info about Gold Class, one place I saw that it was Carnuba, on the box it says that it is a polymer...... I understand that the NXT is a polymer....Maybe someone that uses these products can shed some light.

Myself... I just prefer doing the sealant and leaving it, but then I am using Four Star UPP.

My routine:
Wash
Clay
Polish (cleaner polish or swirl remover depending on need)
Polymer Sealant
Old 08-05-2005 | 03:21 PM
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I called Meg...

Gold Class does have some Polymer in it so I'm just going to use NXT...a couple coats....
Old 08-05-2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Savio
I called Meg...

Gold Class does have some Polymer in it so I'm just going to use NXT...a couple coats....
Too many products with not enough info about what they REALLY are, or if they are a wax, a polish, a paint cleaner or a spluge shot...... Just the manufacturer's trying to get us consumers to by more products that we probably really don't need...
Old 08-05-2005 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hardrock32tls
Too many products with not enough info about what they REALLY are, or if they are a wax, a polish, a paint cleaner or a spluge shot...... Just the manufacturer's trying to get us consumers to by more products that we probably really don't need...
Bingo...Course using UPP is a different beast altogether.....
Old 08-05-2005 | 06:45 PM
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I'm done washing and claying the car....nice smooth paint!!! ahhhh.....


I'm going to polish and wax tomorrow morning! will take pics!
Old 08-06-2005 | 02:18 PM
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I'm done!!!!

Here are the befores














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Old 08-06-2005 | 03:52 PM
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Nice pics.

The carpet almost looks purple in those pictures... hehe. I have noticed that it's not quite black, but luckily it's really not that light.
Old 08-06-2005 | 06:10 PM
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Savio, did you clean/condition your seats? The last two pictures looks like something was put on and they were just smeared around.
Old 08-06-2005 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawhyen51
Savio, did you clean/condition your seats? The last two pictures looks like something was put on and they were just smeared around.

Yeah I did clean and condition the seats. I used Lexol cleaner and conditioner.

I thoroughly applied it but it looks fine now that it was dried.
Old 08-06-2005 | 11:05 PM
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Washed, clayed(first time in a year), and polished and with the results.
Old 08-07-2005 | 01:39 AM
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Jl what did you seal with ??
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Old 08-08-2005 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jlukja
Washed, clayed(first time in a year), and polished and with the results.

Where are your pics???
Old 08-08-2005 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
Jl what did you seal with ??
Oops, sorry, sealed with NXT. Up to this past weekend I'd never done more than just put NXT on. First time claying and polishing so I was very impressed with the results. Bought Clay Magic, polished with Meguires Cleaner Wax, then a coat of NXT. Those products should be OK right?

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Old 08-08-2005 | 05:15 PM
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The Megs #6, which is the cleaner wax, isnt really compatible with NXT. I mean its ok, you got a quick polish and protectant with that, but you applied a Polymer on top of a Nuba, which in the detailing world isnt preffered. NXT, has some mild cleaners in it, hopefully enough to remove the Nuba and make a good bond. Next time use a real nice light grade polish or cleaner before using NXT, I think you'll find the surface much slicker, and durable......"A" for effort though !
Old 08-08-2005 | 05:23 PM
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jlukja, what happened to getting Meg's Deep Crystal polish like I told ya??
Old 08-08-2005 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by joerockt
jlukja, what happened to getting Meg's Deep Crystal polish like I told ya??


jlukja is a friggin' is what happened. I bought the wrong stuff because I thought I remembered what it was I was shopping for. Next time I'm taking a printout with a picture with me.

Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ..........................................
Old 08-08-2005 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jlukja


jlukja is a friggin' is what happened. I bought the wrong stuff because I thought I remembered what it was I was shopping for. Next time I'm taking a printout with a picture with me.

Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ...
Meg's Deep Crystal polish ..........................................
Ok, well then feel lucky I wasnt at the meet or it would have been this

j/k we all make n00b mistakes
Old 08-11-2005 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by exceldetail
The Megs #6, which is the cleaner wax, isnt really compatible with NXT. I mean its ok, you got a quick polish and protectant with that, but you applied a Polymer on top of a Nuba, which in the detailing world isnt preffered. NXT, has some mild cleaners in it, hopefully enough to remove the Nuba and make a good bond. Next time use a real nice light grade polish or cleaner before using NXT, I think you'll find the surface much slicker, and durable......"A" for effort though !
So I didn't harm anything? whew. Good to know. My next wash, if I wash, then use Megs Deep Crystal Polish, will it take the Megs #6 off? Just wash, Megs Deep Crystal Polish, and then NXT. Just wanted to verify so I don't it up again.


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