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Old 04-13-2005, 03:33 PM
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I'm having a hard time believing this...... hope it's not a repost.

I saw this thread over on the s2000 forums...

TO: Mr. Richard Colliver

FROM: William H. Nymeyer
5766 River Loop
Lincoln city, OR 97367

DATE: Tuesday, January 25, 2005

SUBJECT: Acura Vin # 19UUA66254A013516

Dear Mr.Colliver:

I hope you will have time to read this memo, I purchased a 2004 Acura VIN# 19UUA66254A013516 from Ron Tonkin Acura 9655 S. W. Canyon Rd. Portland, Or. On December 30th. 2004.

I was met on the lot and from the first greeting I was impressed. You asked in your letter if “the purchase experience met my highest expectations”. The answer to that question is yes. I drive for business about 50,000 miles per year, and get a new car every two years.

I was introduced to Mr. Joel Fowler, Silver Level Sales Consultant. This was not your typical used car salesman. Joel was a professional sales person and knew the answers to every question I had. Being a Sales Engineer I had a lot of questions. He did not push me at all and made sure before we went for a test-drive that he had explained all of the safety features to me. This is the best sales person and dealership I have ever worked with.

On January 6th. At 8:30 AM I was hit by a four wheel drive pickup truck, as you can see by the attached photo my Acura was a total loss.

The reason for this memo is two parts. First is to inform you that you have a dealer that is the best run dealership I have done business with, and a sales staff that was great. I spoke with Joel while I was in the hospital and never once did he say anything about selling me another car. He was concerned about me not selling another car.

Part two is your cars, I am writing this memo because I was driving a 2004 Acura TL, and I was told by the Oregon State Police that if I was in any other car I would have been killed. After I was flown to the hospital I was informed that due to the Air Bags and all of the safety features of the Acura are the reasons I survived.

I was I the hospital for six days, no broken bones no internal injuries; I was banged up but will be back to work soon.

Please keep-making cars with all the safety features and please keep improving them. Will I buy another car? YES, and it will be an Acura, and I will buy it from Joel at Ron Tonkin Acura.

Thanks for your time.



William H. Nymeyer









In case you didn't read the top... this guy lived!!!! and it was only because of Acura's Safty measures in this car!!
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You have more pics...

Yes, I saw that before... let me see if I could find it...
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OMG!.....This just goes to show why Honda and Acura should be at the top.
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If it's not true, that's a helluva chop job or shop job, whichever.

If it is true, that's a helluva accident. And it should be required reading for all those people who are racing on public roads and streets because if they cause an accident, they might be the one who survives and hopefully will spend a long time in jail.
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OK, found it.


https://acurazine.com/forums/audio-video-electronics-navigation-22/subs-110027/


https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...2&page=2&pp=25
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hmm.. i wonder if they are selling the passenger side headlight... cant find it anywhere..
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Thats Amazing, thats going in my safety section of my Power Point presentation. I am curious as to what those 6 hospital days were. I wonder if they were all for observation.
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Was there any butt prints?! If not, that saved the driver!
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Unbelievable!!
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DAMN!! That brings a tear to my eye. They should send those pics to this site Wrecked Exotics They have pics of non-exotic cars, too. Anyway, glad to see the guy's ok. Wonder if the rattles are gone...
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THere are 5 william nymeyers in oregon, I am continuing my search to see if I can narrow down the location to confirm his existance, and maybe give him a call.

That adress is non existant, but the area code is acurate to the road. I am sure I could find him on ATT, and I have nothing better to do, but I am too tired. I'm sure this is a true story. The driver seat seems survivable. I sent a link to this thread to acura of boston so if they want to use it as a sales edge they will have to further research it. I hope its true Poor car

For my third trick... I just heard someone was metavaked(sp?) from an Acura on 128 South in MA near university road Exit 17. My mom thinks it was a TL(but she very well may be wrong) and if it is she has no idea which Gen. All I know is it was possibly flipped and is/was green.

Another safety question: Does the TL have side rear airbags?


edit by mod Ron A: 3 subsequent posts merged as requested by crazymjb
(Points to you for asking for this)
Old 04-13-2005, 04:31 PM
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That adress is non existant, but the area code is acurate to the road. I am sure I could find him on ATT, and I have nothing better to do, but I am too tired. I'm sure this is a true story. The driver seat seems survivable. I sent a link to this thread to acura of boston so if they want to use it as a sales edge they will have to further research it. I hope its true Poor car
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For my third trick... I just heard someone was metavaked(sp?) from an Acura on 128 South in MA near university road Exit 17. My mom thinks it was a TL(but she very well may be wrong) and if it is she has no idea which Gen. All I know is it was possibly flipped and is/was green.
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Another safety question: Does the TL have side rear airbags?
[Could a mod possibly merge these 4 posts?]
Old 04-13-2005, 06:24 PM
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WOW.....I guess I can put up with the rattles knowing the car could save my life someday.
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No, the new TL's do not have rear side airbags... but the curtain airbags extend the length of the car.
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A little Bondo and that'll buff right out.
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Originally Posted by cornelius
hmm.. i wonder if they are selling the passenger side headlight... cant find it anywhere..
lol asshole...jk
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man talk about rattles...
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Someone run a CarFax on that VIN.
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I wonder if that is the pickup on the left side on the bottem pic. This person is plugging the dealer a little much, I would be more impressed by the car, not the sales person and dealer if I survived something like this. When discussing an accident the required a helicopter the dealer would come to mind much later. I wouldnt start off about "joel." Well, either way I am pretty sure this is survivable, I see little blood(some on the seat corner) and the compartment looks pretty well intact. Note the lower tube support on the pics of the inside out door.
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Its true
I am a regular at that dealership. I haven't met the guy, but I have met the salesman he refered to in the letter.
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Originally Posted by 03CoupeV6
No, the new TL's do not have rear side airbags... but the curtain airbags extend the length of the car.


it has rear side curtain airbags.
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It's definately true. Here's the Oregon State Police news release regarding the accident.

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Fatal Traffic Crash - Highway 18 West of McMinnville
01/06/2005
Lieutenant Marlene West
Oregon State Police - McMinnville
Phone: (503) 472-0294
Pager: (503) 323-3195

One person was killed and five other seriously injured Thursday morning in a three-vehicle crash on Highway 18 about two miles east of Valley Junction.

On January 6, 2005 at approximately 8:30 a.m., a 1991 Ford pickup driven by VICTOR LOAEZA-CATALAN, age 22, from Salem, was westbound on Highway 18 about two miles east of Valley Junction. LOAEZA-CATALAN lost control on the icy covered roadway and crossed into the oncoming eastbound lane colliding into an eastbound 2004 Acura sedan. After impact, the pickup crashed into an eastbound 1996 Ford van.

The driver of the Ford van, NENITA MILLER-LLOYD, age 49, from Vancouver, Washington, was pronounced dead at the scene. She was using safety restraints.

A passenger in the van, TIMOTHY TYLOR, age 37, from Vancouver, was seriously injured and taken by Lifeflight to Emanual Hospital. He was using safety restraints.

The driver of the Acura sedan, WILLIAM NYMEYER, age 60, from Lincoln City, was seriously injured and transported by ambulance to Willamette Valley Medical Center. He was using safety restraints.

LOAEZA-CATALAN was seriously injured and transported by ambulance to Willamette Valley Medical Center. He was using safety restaints.

Two passengers in the pickup were also seriously injured. JUANA VARGAS-ISLAS, age 25, from Salem, was transported by Lifeflight to Oregon Health Sciences University. She was using safety restraints. The other passenger, JOSE ROSAS, age 26, from Salem, was transported by ambulance to Willamette Valley Medical Center. He was using safety restraints.

Highway 18 was closed for four hours, during which a detour was in place by ODOT.

Members of the Oregon State Police McMinnville Area Command office are continuing the investigation. Assistance at the scene was provided by the Polk County and Yamhill County Sheriff's Offices.

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Scary. Nice to know we drive not only such a great-looking and performing car but also one of the safest on the road.
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Sad story...I do feel safer driving knowing its a true story, however.
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It says he was seriously injured there but he said he had no major injuries. Hmm
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Originally Posted by crazymjb
It says he was seriously injured there but he said he had no major injuries. Hmm
If you look at the report, all people involved were listed as either seriously injured or, in the case of the driver of the van, DOA. Police aren't allowed to make a medical diagnosis, so they use general terms on the report ... he was taken away by ambulance after a massive wreck ... serious injury sounds about right ....
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Originally Posted by JATTerbot 0.9


it has rear side curtain airbags.
That's what I said... read again: "..but the side curtain airbags extend the length of the car."

I meant that it does not have the side airbags in the seats or doors in the way cars like Mercedes does.
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Well, sucks for the people in back. But I AM DRIVING(well, not really, but I'll be in the passenger seat)
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This is a perfect example of Honda's use of energy absorbing design. They are on the cutting edge with this. Sadly, many times it means the cars suffer extensive damage. But, the fact that the vehicle absorbs the impact & tons of force generated means many Honda owners survive to buy another.
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Originally Posted by Bluenote
This is a perfect example of Honda's use of energy absorbing design. They are on the cutting edge with this. Sadly, many times it means the cars suffer extensive damage. But, the fact that the vehicle absorbs the impact & tons of force generated means many Honda owners survive to buy another.
Better the car than me!!! Insurance companies like it better too .. a car is cheaper than Intensive Care!

Mad props to Honda Safety Engineers!
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Not if you have an Enzo
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Report Run Date: 04/15/2005
VIN: 19UUA66254A013516 2004 Acura TL

Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail
02/11/2004 OR 16 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
03/22/2004 BAKER CITY, OR Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0408254925)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Lien Reported)
12/21/2004 PACIFIC NW REGION 13,465 Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
12/30/2004 OR 13,540 Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM DMV
01/18/2005 LINCOLN CITY, OR Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0501865415)
REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL (Lien Reported)
02/17/2005 PORTLAND, OR Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0504893941)
SALVAGE
UNKNOWN ODOMETER READING
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what does all that mean?
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Originally Posted by STEVESTINT
what does all that mean?
Means the story is most likely true because the VIN listed by the writer of the letter + "news feed" listing man's name + VIN check stating salvage.
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