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Old 01-15-2018, 09:03 AM
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I am replacing the engine with a spare on my 3.2L. It came out of a 2008 with 100k miles. While the engine is on garage floor waiting to be put in, I would like to do the timing belt service and have been reading about the shim installation. Problem is, carfax doesn't show that the timing belt was done or that a recall was performed for the chirp.

I really do not want to do this job twice so I am wanting to know if anyone know whether or not installing the shim kit on a timing belt that didn't chirp prior (i can only assume it did not with no record), will cause any issues as long as i grind it down as per the TSB?
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I can't imagine a bolt not holding a coil pack down allowing a smell from teh engine...smell your cats...
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Originally Posted by dub-nub View Post
I am replacing the engine with a spare on my 3.2L. It came out of a 2008 with 100k miles. While the engine is on garage floor waiting to be put in, I would like to do the timing belt service and have been reading about the shim installation. Problem is, carfax doesn't show that the timing belt was done or that a recall was performed for the chirp.

I really do not want to do this job twice so I am wanting to know if anyone know whether or not installing the shim kit on a timing belt that didn't chirp prior (i can only assume it did not with no record), will cause any issues as long as i grind it down as per the TSB?
Well, if there is no shim kit currently on the engine, then it may not need it, really hard to know. With the engine out of the car, it's a pretty simple matter to check for potential rubbing that would indicate the need to use the shim. Note that grinding may or may not be required, depending on measurement taken in step 5 of the TSB.

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B08-031.pdf


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I can't imagine a bolt not holding a coil pack down allowing a smell from teh engine...smell your cats...
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Well, if there is no shim kit currently on the engine, then it may not need it, really hard to know. With the engine out of the car, it's a pretty simple matter to check for potential rubbing that would indicate the need to use the shim. Note that grinding may or may not be required, depending on measurement taken in step 5 of the TSB.

http://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis/pubs/SB/B08-031.pdf




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I went ahead and ordered the Aisin timing belt, and shim kit from amazon. If i don't think i need shim kit then i can return it.
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well amazon decided to pack the shipment box using monkeys so the shim was lost in transition. I planned to do timing belt tomorrow and now i cannot.

I took off the CP and checked what i had. I noticed the engine mount in place already had a notch cut out like discussed in service bulletin, but no shim appears to be installed.




I have two options 1) assume that this engine does not have this issue or 2) call local parts dealer and see if they can get the shim by friday.

I am hoping the service is done regularly enough and on enough cars that they have it on hand.
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Last I heard, the Aisin kit didn't come with the shim. Was there a separate kit for the shim that you ordered?

I'm not really sure that is a grind mark, plus I find it odd that they would go to the trouble to grind and not install the shim. Or said another way, per the TSB, if it needed to be ground, then it also required a shim.

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Last I heard, the Aisin kit didn't come with the shim. Was there a separate kit for the shim that you ordered?

I'm not really sure that is a grind mark, plus I find it odd that they would go to the trouble to grind and not install the shim. Or said another way, per the TSB, if it needed to be ground, then it also required a shim.
the shim kit was separate purchase via amzon on same order. It was available with prime lol and was just the shim, which is all i need afaik.

I was hoping that the factory casting mark was an indication that this engine did not need the shim, but i am not sure anymore. I cannot locate this side engine mount bracket online to reference how it looks compared to mine because the TSB already shows a picture of it modified..ugh.

will try to find the shim locally.
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last time I tried to find a shim I ended up going home very sore. couldn't sit for a week.

If it's the shim I'm thinking...I want to say you can transfer it over from the original tensioner. Is that what we're talking about? I recall putting everything back together and something not clearing (rubbing on the water pump pulley?) until my ex wife pointed out that I needed to take a part and swap it over.
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last time I tried to find a shim I ended up going home very sore. couldn't sit for a week.

If it's the shim I'm thinking...I want to say you can transfer it over from the original tensioner. Is that what we're talking about? I recall putting everything back together and something not clearing (rubbing on the water pump pulley?) until my ex wife pointed out that I needed to take a part and swap it over.
That is not the shim we are talking about.

TSB 08-031 for timing belt chirp directs the techs to install a shim (spacer that is angled) because the idler pulley mating surface is angled from the factory. The shim goes behind idler pulley.

I called local acura store and provided vin of new engine and they said the tsb does NOT apply to it. Not only that, they cannot even locate just the shim part number based on what it old them from amazons part number. SO i am shit out of luck to get it by tomorrow anyways. The shim kit they do have on order is $100 more then what i paid for everything and it doesn't even include a water pump..SMH.

I will take my chances for now, even though i may need to do it twice as worst case scenario.
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yeah, i had a feeling it might not be the one I was talking about...
is there a chance you just really don't need it?
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Originally Posted by dub-nub View Post
That is not the shim we are talking about.

TSB 08-031 for timing belt chirp directs the techs to install a shim (spacer that is angled) because the idler pulley mating surface is angled from the factory. The shim goes behind idler pulley.

I called local acura store and provided vin of new engine and they said the tsb does NOT apply to it. Not only that, they cannot even locate just the shim part number based on what it old them from amazons part number. SO i am shit out of luck to get it by tomorrow anyways. The shim kit they do have on order is $100 more then what i paid for everything and it doesn't even include a water pump..SMH.

I will take my chances for now, even though i may need to do it twice as worst case scenario.
I think you're probably going to be fine without the shim. Good luck, keep us updated!
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that is about as close to an NFN guarantee as you're gonna get...
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My 2004 TL Timing belt at HONDA Dealer

Timing Belt
Drivebelt
Water Pump
TB Hydraulic Auto Tensioner

This service was quoted for $950
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3rd TB change coming up, probably in August-September
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