Gate 17

Acura app came up with an alert showing a Recall-Fuel Pump May Seize
2019 Advanced

markm929

I have a 19 Advance and have no recalls on the app nor the owners site. You may want to follow up by calling Acura CR to confirm.

bluntman72

I saw that this morning as well. Unfortunately, Acura hasn't provided a fix for the issue.

Waetherman

2020 Tech, no notice of any recall. But I guess if this is like the system updates, only half of us will get notified, and only half of those will be able to apply a fix.

@Gate 17 @bluntman72 can you post a screenshot?

Madd Dog

2019 Tech. No notice, either on the app or the owner’s site.

JB in AZ

See TSB 20-026 - Safety Recall: 2019 RDX Fuel Pump Motor in the 2019 TSB thread.

https://acurazine.com/forums/third-g...letins-970256/

Waetherman

Interesting that it’s only 2019, and the fix is “replace the fuel pump” presumably with a 2020 part? Is there a difference?

Acure4RDX

I saw no recall regarding this subject on this site:

www.nhtsa.gov/recalls#vin

hockeyaddict

This looks like a fix to some of the early limp mode reports. I understand it probably took them awhile to determine the cause and I'm glad to see them issuing this safety recall

DJA123

If true, I'm surely hoping the formal class action filing three weeks ago was an unrelated random coincidence.

Important to remember the sudden limp mode fail affects 2020 models too.

pcmcia

2019 advance here. I didn't get any notice in my Acuralink app. I also downloaded the PDF regarding the recall. It said check the VIN number, but I don't see the list of affected VIN number. ???

Waetherman

Recalls have a history if being expanded. I would not be surprised if this started with some 2019s, then got expanded to include all 2019s, the expanded again to include 2020.

I’m going to do some research tomorrow (unless someone has already done it to save me the trouble) to figure out if there any difference between 2019 and 2020.

Dereileak

I wonder did they use different brand pumps in some then others? How do they determine who will have the problem and who wont

DJA123

I imagine this answer hinges on whether or not this is a staggered recall that will eventually get all '19 and '20 vehicles, or just a VIN range. If it's a range, they've determined a batch is bad for some reason.

Dereileak

knock on wood I havnt had any stalls, but I imagine the people that were, that this was the cause

Waetherman

Quick research suggests that the fuel pump is (unsurprisingly) the same in the 2019 and 2020. It also appears it was used in the 2018 and 2019 Honda Accord which also had a 2.0 turbo. I don’t know enough about all the various engines used by Honda/Acura to know if this is the same engine, but I think it is.

I guess there’s the possibility of a “bad batch” - I don’t know if any Honda Accords that have had a similar problem, and one would think that Honda would be aware of there were since this part has been in use for a few years. And it could be something particular to the RDX related to the way it’s tuned. But remembering the Takata airbag recall, this could also just be the tip of the iceberg for a broader recall.

Madd Dog

Since they require checking the VIN range, it looks like a batch problem. Bears watching.

Ludepower

Good that their addressing the issue. How much does this repair typically cost?

Waetherman

The part retails for about $450, and it looks pretty easy to replace but I’m sure any shop would charge for at least a couple hours of labor.

Wander

1.2 Hours flat rate labor is quoted in the TSB. AFAIK that's what the dealer will get from Acura, in addition to reimbursement from the part. And I doubt Acura pays retail for warranty parts.

But the TSB cites constrained supply of the part.

Agree this is likely a bad batch manufacturing issue, not a design issue.

Whether it has anything to do with "limp mode" problems, dunno. TSB makes it sound like it either runs or it doesn't, but info is very sparse. AFAIK "limp mode" means it runs but at reduced power.

GW208

The mention of the impeller swelling makes this recall sound very similar to these recalls. I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't the same pump used by all these manufacturers.

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2...mpellers.shtml

Dereileak

good find! I bet it is the cause of people’s stalls

Royki5cp

Got a notification this morning from Dealer about the recall. I’m scheduled for this Wednesday to have it repaired.

Royki5cp

Got the recall today, mine is an Avance 2019, very early delivery. To be fixed day after tomorrow. I’ve experienced no problems!

Wander

Oh boy. Nothing yet for mine, but same description applies. And no problems aside from acceleration lag under some conditions, but I doubt a fuel pump will fix that. OTOH I'd be happy to be wrong.

rdxny

Has anyone seen a vin range posted?

markm929

I grabbed my 2019 Advance the weekend after release (extremely low triple digit VIN). Still no recall.

Royki5cp

Hi,

I set up the appointment with my Dealer for tomorrow at 9 am, but I did this on line, so I plan on calling the dealer this morning to confirm the time and to talk with service to make sure they have the part needed on hand. I saw on Facebook that one guy had went to the dealer only to be informed that they would have to order the parts needed. It a pretty good ways to my dealer, so I want to know they are ready to do this now.

mathnerd88

Mine is in the low 400's in my VIN. Still no recall.

DJA123

Sounds like supporting information for a staggered recall: to accommodate supply of replacement parts and dealer service capacity. I'll be surprised if the recall stays limited to what it is so far.

Royki5cp

I also got one of the first 2019 Advance model. I just verified with the dealer that they have the parts and will install a new pump tomorrow. I’m sure you will get a recall soon. Mine actually came from my dealer by email.

JB in AZ

Great! My experience so far shows that my dealer is not that competent!

GW208

I just saw another story about this on Car & Driver, they say owners with the effected vehicles will be notified by the end of July.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a3...l-pump-recall/

Royki5cp

I went to dealer this morning and had the fuel pump kit installed. Plan on about 2 hours which included a car wash and vacuum. I can’t tell any difference, but I wasn’t having any problems before. Hope this may be of use to someone. Be safe!

Madd Dog

Production dates May 21, 2018 to February 12, 2019.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/202...0V314-8555.PDF


So I suppose I am included, even though I haven’t been notified yet. The NHTSA site does not show a recall yet for my VIN.

DJA123

The report also says: "The manufacturing range reflects all possible vehicles that could potentially experience the problem." So, it looks like this is only a "batch" and not all 3G RDX.

Waetherman

I hope that's true. But I find that idea somewhat suspicious.

Madd Dog

Would they really put different basic components, like a fuel pump, in different trim levels at the same time? I don’t think so. I think that my tech is, mechanically, identical to an advance as it relates to engine components. They probably are just rolling out the recall in some order that makes sense to them.

DJA123

According to the timeline, they were aware of the issue as early as 2/19 -- which is when the recall window ends. I would hope they'd start using a new/improved part asap from that point, with no distinction to trim. Again, assuming all the words on the report are the truth, I can't see a reason to fault the details of the recall.

Madd Dog

The truth?