Wow that's a lot of work! Kudos to you.

So what happened to dropping it off at the dealership and only paying $200 bucks?

 

wtf!?
you tore up the clutch already....?
some one needs a new driver mod.

Obviously, it didnt happen. so dont dwell on it, and let Jeremy work!!

 

i'm suspecting there might be a problem, however took it in and they not sure what the problem is, since 3 technicians test drove and couldn't replicate gears what I felt was slipping. But wtf do I know, right, I just driven the car since new.

Jeremy, what clutch you going to install? SPEC?

 

guess I'm kinda going with the stock clutch after all Luk & excedy seem to be a direct oem replacement; seems when people pull out the stock clutch it is labeled luk and even if you were there they excedy brand they say it's made by a LUK and its stamp LUK...seems the only aftermarket clutch is like plus masters or another one called spec but they're both like 3 or 6 times as much...I paid 200 should I believe for the clutch...found the flywheel for like 260...I don't have the money to buy a bad ass clutch or else I would; I figured I could get a performance one for the price of stock but it doesn't seem like there's that many clutch makers out there..for the type of clautch I need that is...either way I plan to spend about $500 on parts and the extra tools that I may need; and the dealer quoted me 2400 with parts and the lowest price I got from somewhere to do the install with me providing the parts was like 700...my s**** already f***** up anyway so I might as well try to do it myself...my parents aren't going to get here until Friday so I have until then to get it all ready...

keep me posted on what you're going to do with yours...if you do plan to do it yourself I don't mind helping you if I have the time...I have a big ass air compressor and air tools you can borrow when I'm done...

 

can you explain what you feel that is wrong?

and there are a few test that you can preform to see if it is indeed actually slipping. but tell me or describe to me when does it happen and what gears

 

...my Parts aren't going to get here until Friday so I have until then to get it all ready... lol...

 

Saw this after I texted

 

The first symptom I noticed was about 3 weeks ago when I was cruising along a hwy, about 65-70 mph in 6th gear. I had the cruise control engaged DECL/SET and car engaged cruising no problem. I pressed the RES/ACCEL button on the steering wheel to accelerate the car and I notice the RPMs rise up a bit and then the cruise control disengaged. I had to hit the SET button again to engage CRUISE control. I attempted several more times and every time it did the same thing. During normal low speed cruising the ACCEL does work well and accelerates in cruise without disengaging most of the time, but it's at the higher speeds, when you need it to accelerate quickly that it disengages. After that I started looking at the RPMs while in gear (higher gears 5th and 6th) when I step on the accelerator. I notice the car doesn’t have the punch it did before, RPMs seem to rise up momentarily a bit before I feel the car accelerate. This doesn't happen in the lower gears. The service shop was not able to replicate my concerns when I took it in a few weeks ago. So I got the shop manager to ride along with me yesterday and showed him. After I left the car he called me in the afternoon and told me he took the car out with one of the service technicians and could not replicate the cruise disengaging issue, but admitted there was a lot of afternoon traffic on the highway and he's going to keep the car and try it again today.

 

slipping clutch.
the higher gears tend to slip first.
since you noticed it in 5th and 6th, it is indeed a slipping clutch and will get worse over time, crippling the lower gears.

this is the hardest car to learn/drive and master the clutch. it's the dual mass fly wheel and its hydraulic pressure system, where it self adjusts.
you're going to have to re-learn the way you drive, ie: driver's mod to adapt to the car.

believe me, It took me over 3 months to learn how to drive this car. and at first, i thought i made a huge mistake in buying it. $20k isnt something I can toss away...

P.S. you have a better chance of the warranty taking care of it than Jeremy did. he bought a 10 year old used car that Acura has already washed its hands of.
since you're the only owner, you will have an easier time trying to get it warrantied.
when making your claim, DONT USE THE WORD "I". blame it on the car at all times.

 

 

***YOU BOUGHT A 10 YEAR OLD CAR ***

I bought 2 3g TL's with less than 50kmi whether I bought it in 08 like my last one or if i bought it in 2014 By choice like my new one ...

i could of got a 4g icould of got an 10 bmw or benz but i went out and got what i wanted not to mention BOTH TIMES

no car just comes with a clutch warranty which i obviously didnt know at the time friend just got 13 carolla 6spd ... clutch not covered...

Im sure i at least have the same warranty as 911 if not better because its extended warranty...so good luck with your 10yr old car when your wear & tear item goes out

 

Interesting.

Keep it respectful peeps.

 

 

not to mention ive already been to the drag strip quite a few street pulls last one w/63 amg
but my biggest mistake is trying to go fast with my bass on (2000wt L7) bcz i cant feel or hear the engine...

so i blame no one but myself...i even like reving my exhaust while im reversing fk it...im gonna keep doing all those things if all goes well with this install...

***Edit***im gonna turn my bass down lol...

 

 

it wasnt a stab at you, at all.
Acura has NO OBLIGATION to help a 10 year old USED car. that's ALL.


I didnt read your whole spiel because frankly, I wasnt attacking you.

 

put it this way, if you sold something 10 years ago....and the current owner came up to you and said, since you're the seller, you have to fix this.

you would laugh in his face. same thing Acura is doing, they have no obligation to fix a 10 year old car on their dime.

 

PS I got a flat at 6:30 this am. No shoulders on the hwy (mopac) since there is construction. Changed in a few min but my pants got a nice grease stain

 

I am a little confused why you need to "hear" your so you know when to shift, there are others ways to know when to shift.

This is one of the reason why I got an automatic for this car for the reason of not using a TL as a car to take to drag strip or "street race". It's nice to have the power but definitely not trying to drop the clutch when "racing" in these cars. These cars are not meant for that.

 

:CUSTOMER STATES TRANSMISSION IS SLIPPING DRIVING INTO 3RD, 4TH AND 5TH GEAR. WHEN STEPPING ON GAS RPMS REV UP.:
SHOP DIAGNOSIS :COULD NOT DUPLICATE CONCERN. DID FEEL HIGH PEDAL RELEASE BEFORE ENGAGEMENT. RECOMMEND REMOVING TRANSMISSION AND INSPECTING CLUTCH COMPONENTS.
NOTE TO CUSTOMER: ADVISED CUSTOMER HIGH RELEASE FROM CLUTCH. ONLY TO INSPECT IS TO TEAR DOWN TRANSMISSION. NOT COVERED UNDER MANUFACTURED WARRANTY.

So, the transmission doesn't slip (I was told 3 technicians drove the car, one was the service manager), BUT you want to tear down my transmission and charge me for it? Do I look stupid?

 

LOL dont do it.

that's another problem with these clutches....i have a high pedal engagement too

 

you think so?

 

Dropped the car off yesterday again, after I had to drive and show the manager the problem with the cruise disengaging when I pressed the ACCEL button. He saw it for himself. Told them to take care of that problem first, Repeated: Car is under warranty. They are looking into it.

P.S. Loaner sucks 2014 TL AUTO (paddle shifters) I miss my M/T SH-AWD

 

you can adjust the pedal height or put a rubber stopper like BMW owners do to fix the engagement.
i have done neither and just learned how high the engagement is.

 

Considering I've been driving the car for almost 3 years (bought new), it doesn't bother me. Didn't even notice it, until the diagnosis. Funny how someone could diagnose something like that, unless they've driven lots of 6M/T 4GEN TLs to draw some kind of comparison. I was even told that rarely, if ever see any 6 M/T 4GEN TLs in for service, or even in the dealers inventory.

 

ive only noticed it in TL's.
weird engagement point and can contribute to a short clutch life, because of the way we slip it to get to shift smoothly, especially in 1st and 2nd.

 

I've only been able to find one thread on Acurazine related to replacing a 4G SH-AWD clutch and the car was at 70k.

https://acurazine.com/forums/4g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-295/i-might-needing-new-clutch-soon-i-found-out-spec-makes-replacements-tl-897097/

Is it that rare for the clutch to go out on these?

 

Because the clutch is a wear and tear item....like ive been telling you and jeremy....


its dependent on the driver!!!
that means you are causing it to slip!
a properly driven clutch can last the lifetime of the car.
an abused clutch will lead to a short death.

this car is one of the hardest cars to figure out the clutch.
because of the reasons I listed, its just a hard clutch to figure out.
you need to learn not to ride the clutch!!!

 

NO YOUR WRONG THE DEALER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING BUMPER TO BUMPER REGARDLESS OF HOW THE DRIVER DRIVES


why do you keep saying the same thing over and its not gonna change anything but your post count?... ...


my 8 yr old cars warranty covers suspension; starter & other wear & tear items they know the clutch can be ruined in one day by a bad driver probably why its not covered...

i probably could have looked for another third party warranty besides the one the dealership offered & had it covered but that wasnt on my mind &im sure hard to find...you can get random ass third party warrantys for older & shittier cars...

they dont look at it as a xx year car; just the coverage plan it consist of..only bcz his is new & hes not a kid they may make an exception i hope they do bcz cost is probably more than mine...


im pretty far along day 3 today...about ready to separate trans & remove old clutch...

 

Thanks for the info. Well, I do not consider myself an expert driver by any means. However, I have been driving for a while, about 38 years and have 33 years experience driving M/T. Of the car's I've owned some have been M/T (1988 Accord 5SPD, 2003 Accord 5SPD, 2006 Acura TL 6SPD) and this one (2012) which I bought brand new May 2011. Never had clutch problems with any of those. You could be right, it could be that in three years I still haven't learned how to master the clutch in this car. I guess I just don't have enough experience. (BTW, I don't ride the clutch, son.)

So maybe it isn't a clutch problem. Well, at least three Acura technicians have driven the car and they say it doesn't slip. Could be just in my head.

 

I'm finally glad some one listens.
if you noticed, i said the same exact thing to you and to 91lg.

but then you guise come back and ask the SAME FREAKING question.

91lg asked the same question 3 or 4 times, which warranted the same answer 3 or 4 times.

 

sir, the clutch in this car is DIFFERENT than your other cars. the other cars have a regular clutch. this car has a dual mass flywheel and self adjusting hydraulic pressure plates.


if you think its all in your head, then its all in your head

 

I didn't deserve the 'sir', just messing with you LOL. but thanks anyway.

 

I'm being respectful.

 

Actually, I've challenged the Acura service manager to show me in writing where it states in the 2012 Acura TL Warranty that the clutch (or transmission friction disk) is not covered by my warranty and he came up empty. No where in the documentation does it state it is not covered.

 

I just think it's funny how people automatically assume warranty is gonna cover a clutch. Do they cover the tires on your car too since it's "bumper to bumper" ? Just curious.

 

If you could prove abnormal wear, absolutely. Have you never heard of a defective tire? It does happen, they've even had some pretty ugly recalls in the past. So the answer is yes.

 

I guess Acura never thought anybody would really drive the Acura TL SH-AWD, so that's why they didn't sponsor and race it at the 2013 Pikes Peak International. Because it isn't meant to be "driven" like a sports car.

 

 

ya it covers flats; defective tires; & broken rims my mom has it on her new maxima i opted out bcz i knew i wouldnt keep my stock rims..