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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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Question Windoze Remote Access Question

Let's say you have two windoze laptops (one running XP, work device) the other running 7, personal device.

Let's say the XP laptop has encryption on it that prevents USB sticks or hard drives plugged into it and files subsequently removed. But there are files that need to get removed as the laptop is dying.


My assumption is that one could remotely mount the C: drive and pull the files off over a network?

How do you accomplish this in windoze? Linux and Mac, no problem.

Oh and in the spirit of full disclosure, it's not me AND we're talking music not sensitive corporate stuff.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 10:49 AM
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I would say just create a share on the WindowsXP machine and connect to it from the Win7 machine.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/304040
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by CCColtsicehockey
I would say just create a share on the WindowsXP machine and connect to it from the Win7 machine.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Oh yea... And the XP device is running the Novell Client.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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Mounting an encrypted drive won't help. If the lappy is dying, why not image the hard drive and port it to another pc?

P.S. If this is an XP pro version you can always remotely connect to it via network from your Window 7 and do what you'd like as well, the problem is still encryption.

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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
Mounting an encrypted drive won't help. If the lappy is dying, why not image the hard drive and port it to another pc?

P.S. If this is an XP pro version you can always remotely connect to it via network from your Window 7 and do what you'd like as well, the problem is still encryption.
Imaging still doesn't help as I would need to get the generated image OFF the laptop. Can't write to USB devices, DVD burner, etc.

The encryption is on the peripherals that connect to it. So I can read your USB device you give me, but if I write to it, only my laptop can read the contents.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Hirens?

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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:09 AM
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crap, I was about to recommend the nifty Window 7 Transfer tool, which can be installed on XP, and then it pulls any data you request to the Window 7 laptop via network.

It will save you a headache.. want to give it a try? Type Windows Easy Transfer on Win 7 Machine.... Will XP laptop allow usb read?
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:14 AM
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crap, I was about to recommend the nifty Window 7 Transfer tool, which can be installed on XP, and then it pulls any data you request to the Window 7 laptop via network.

It will save you a headache.. want to give it a try? Type Windows Easy Transfer on Win 7 Machine.... Will XP laptop allow usb read?
Only will read what was formatted and encrypted by the laptop. So I can't take your pr0n thumb drive and put the smut on my machine.

He doesn't have his win 7 laptop here, so this would have to be a dummies guide he could take home.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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What kind of encryption is it? and whats the status of it? Via what software was it install? Do you have access to it to decrypt?
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
What kind of encryption is it? and whats the status of it? Via what software was it install? Do you have access to it to decrypt?
It's Checkpoint.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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why won't rdp work?
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
why won't rdp work?
Would it? You tell me? I'm asking the questions.

I thought RDP was just a remote control app.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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how many files we talkin here? Is it possible to zip them all and just use email or some offsite backup location?
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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Good place to start https://forums.checkpoint.com/forums...a?categoryID=1, but with the standard FIPS 140-2 encryption on checkpoint, I need to think a bit.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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how many files we talkin here? Is it possible to zip them all and just use email or some offsite backup location?
It's music, so we're talking many geebees.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:22 AM
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what about dropbox.com?

edit nevermind
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Scrib
Steps?
Some of these guides may help.

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/w...le_Sharing.htm

http://compnetworking.about.com/od/w...le_disable.htm

http://www.addictivetips.com/windows...tep-procedure/

http://www.theeldergeek.com/quick_gu...le_sharing.htm
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:25 AM
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This is a really out there idea but what about creating a large tar torrent file of it and then downloading to your other machine. Won't be fast but would work.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:31 AM
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You guys are missing the point, an encrypted file transferred will be garbage.

f@ck would you want to encrypt music is beyond me
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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does the user have any elevated rights/permissions? if so you might be able to decrypt the files once you've copied them to the USB stick.

There's a command line tool for decrypting files/folders called cipher which is built into windows.

http://www.techrepublic.com/article/...yption/5030732
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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Install teamviewer on both machines and use file transfer to copy files
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by TeknoKing
You guys are missing the point, an encrypted file transferred will be garbage.

f@ck would you want to encrypt music is beyond me
I was always under the impression as long as you can log into the computer you can transfer files over network from one encrypted machine to a different one and they are no longer encrypted. I thought the encryption was there to prevent people from pulling the drive out of the machine and putting it in another to try and access the files off of it.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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The encryption my company has (pointsec) renders the file useless unless the receiving machine has the software on it.

So sending the music to another PC would only mean the encrypted files would be encrypted no matter where you put them.

You could save the pics by uploading them to a photobucket type server while off the network (like at home) so that the firewalls wont block the transfer.

The music is probably lost unless there is a host site you can put them on, I had some luck dropping files over from my encrypted PC to a personal website but it wasnt 100%.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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hmmmmmm
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HEAVY_RL
The encryption my company has (pointsec) renders the file useless unless the receiving machine has the software on it.

So sending the music to another PC would only mean the encrypted files would be encrypted no matter where you put them.

You could save the pics by uploading them to a photobucket type server while off the network (like at home) so that the firewalls wont block the transfer.

The music is probably lost unless there is a host site you can put them on, I had some luck dropping files over from my encrypted PC to a personal website but it wasnt 100%.
This only applies to files stored on removable media, not files transferred over the network. Anything sent over the network is decrypted first.

If you have admin rights on the windows machine running the removable media encryption you can try stopping the service before you attach the hard drive.

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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:11 PM
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Is there on the fly decryption so that the files can be read and edited?
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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Scrib, do you have a NAT server? storage? Mount IP and you should be able to transfer it, same idea as uploading to site... no?
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:32 PM
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Is there on the fly decryption so that the files can be read and edited?
Yes, to the end user the encryption software does it's best to stay at of the way. As long as your machine has the correct keys you are good to go.
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Old Sep 14, 2011 | 01:42 PM
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This only applies to files stored on removable media, not files transferred over the network. Anything sent over the network is decrypted first.

If you have admin rights on the windows machine running the removable media encryption you can try stopping the service before you attach the hard drive.
That may be the key, no one outside of site support has an admin credential and any file on the PC is encrypted.
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