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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Sweet! I think I'll try that when my 2TB shows up.
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Old Feb 27, 2011 | 10:45 PM
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Here's some important info about drives larger than 2TB and about GPT disks.

http://usingwindowshomeserver.com/20...nt-to-byob-33/

Basically MBR only supports drives up to 2.2TB it's a 32-bit limitation. Drives over 2.2TB have to be GPT formatted. WHS supports GPT as backup drives but it will split disks larger than 2.2TB into multiple partitions. The reason is because VHD (which is used by WHS to backup drives on the server) doesn't support dynamic of difference disks larger than 2TB so it has to limit the size of partitions on Server so that they don't end up exceeding the VHD format limit. Also WHS does not support client PCs that have GPT disks. So if you have a GPT disk then it's not getting backed up.

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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 02:12 AM
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Supposedly the part about WHS not supporting backup and restore of GPT disks on client PCs is a bug that hopefully will be fixed. Otherwise full GPT support isn't coming until Windows 8, I guess it VHD that's holding us back.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 02:15 AM
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Oh dougie fresh I was doing some research on how to configure my ECC RAM and stumbled across this little white paper from AMD about why you should have ECC.

http://www.amd.com/us/Documents/47644A_ecc_embedded.pdf

DRAM is susceptible to random occurrences of bit(s) flipping, or changing logical states
unexpectedly. While originally attributed to alpha particles from the device packaging, later research
has shown this to largely be the result of background radiation. There are various influences which
can vary the frequency of the errors, for example chip design techniques, memory density, etc.
DRAM manufacturers strive to accurately model and simulate the soft error rate (SER) of their
technology, but this is a difficult process and is arguably inaccurate. There are also many factors that
affect all error rates in real world scenarios. The obvious system-level challenges exist, such as
ambient temperatures inside an enclosure, contaminants, connector degradation, etc. Additionally,
altitude plays a significant role in the SER. A typical SER might be one bitflip per 2-4 weeks per
gigabyte of DRAM. To put this another way, a 4GB system can expect to encounter roughly one error
each week.
The impact of bitflips to system integrity can vary. On the very innocuous end of the spectrum, the
error can occur in an unused area of memory or simply change the tone of one pixel of color on a
display. Moving toward the damaging end of the scale, a bitflip might cause a program to crash
(typically shut down by the operating system). An error may occur in sensitive data, and if undetected
it may eventually be written to disk and perpetuated. Of course, a bitflip may occur in the operating
system’s kernel, or elsewhere, which can cause an entire system crash. The system may potentially
come down in such a way that the exception handler(s) are not capable of saving the important data
still in memory.
So with 12GB RAM I could average 3 errors per week and if one of them was in important system RAM it could fuck up my world.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 09:18 AM
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Is there any value in having 8gb of ram in the type of box I'm building or will 4gb be enough? I was thinking of grabbing 8 so that they are 4gb sticks to leave some room for future re-use in a newer machine.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 12:01 PM
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4GB should be plenty but if you want 8GB then go right ahead. Just make sure the board you get supports 4GB DIMMs, not all boards do.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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I signed up for MS connect so I can test out the WHS RC. The download has failed twice now within 200mb of completing, I'm starting to get pretty frustrated.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 10:35 PM
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yeah you gots to use the download manager. try the download again using internet explorer. Then click on the button download using FTM. It's an Akamai ActiveX program that downloads it. If it pauses during that then just hit resume. Connect downloads pretty much only work with the IE FTM, otherwise it fails unless it's a small download.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
yeah you gots to use the download manager. try the download again using internet explorer. Then click on the button download using FTM. It's an Akamai ActiveX program that downloads it. If it pauses during that then just hit resume. Connect downloads pretty much only work with the IE FTM, otherwise it fails unless it's a small download.
fffffffuuuuuuu I'm on my mac.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 10:41 PM
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Also have you seen this business with HD's and 4k sectors? I was going to grab some WD20EARS drives cause they are on sale, but this 4k sector shit looks like a real PITA.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 10:56 PM
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It's not a problem for WHS Vail. Just the first WHS.

There's a couple big changes going on in the world of hard drives with the upcoming GPT transition and the Advanced Format 4K sector thing.

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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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Try using a DLM in OS X and see if that works...
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 11:14 PM
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WD 20 Ears?

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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 11:15 PM
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ok.. not as funny as i thought it was going to be ...
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
It's not a problem for WHS Vail. Just the first WHS.

There's a couple big changes going on in the world of hard drives with the upcoming GPT transition and the Advanced Format 4K sector thing.
so I'm safe to roll with these drives? vail can align them without any additional help?
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA
Try using a DLM in OS X and see if that works...
third time was the charm wasted my parents bandwidth lol.
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Old Feb 28, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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so I'm safe to roll with these drives? vail can align them without any additional help?
Vail, 7, and Vista are fine. There's no need to align, only XP/2003 need the align tool

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2888

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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 12:29 AM
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Have you ever noticed a speed difference switching gigabit nics to cat6 or is it a waste of my time? All runs are under 10ft.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 12:48 AM
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Well cat 5e is required for gbe so regular cat 5 isn't enough. I redid my whole network in cat 6 because I got all the cables I needed really cheap from my job. Can't say I noticed a difference but the whole thing only cost me about $7
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 03:12 PM
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well I've acquired all my goodies. Just waiting for the mobo to ship. Build review will be posted once she's up and running. btw the fractal arrary case is damn sexy.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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My bosses were talking to me today about backup for our VMs and RBS servers and I recommended Windows Storage Server 2008 R2 Essentials (WTF is with these long ass names!!). We're going to look into it. I have a feeling that i won't be able to use it because it probably won't support server 2003 r2 as a Client OS.
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Old Mar 1, 2011 | 10:16 PM
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OK, I just got my 2TB drive in. I'm gonna have to order another cause the math just isn't working. When WHS goes RTM my setup is going to be 2TB drive for WHS OS and Client backups. Then I'm going to have another identical 2TB doing twice daily backups of that drive. Then I'll take out my 1TB (since it will be replaced by the second 2TB). Then I'll have a 1.5TB drive for my media which I'll mirror to another 1.5TB. My videos are about 600GB right now so that should give me a lot more room togo and if I outgrow the 1.5TB I'll get two more 2TB drives.
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Old Mar 2, 2011 | 07:25 PM
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I must say I'm not very impressed with newegg right now, I placed more order on Monday morning and it still hasn't shipped. It's still sitting in processing status, pretty lame!
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 02:43 PM
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I'm really pretty pissed off with newegg, my stuff hasn't shipped yet and they keep having issues processing my order. Never have I ever had to add my shipping address with my credit card company, or even had to have contact phone numbers match. I would have canceled this order but this asshats are the only store that has what I want. Really what's the point of Verified by Visa if I have to jump through 16 other hoops.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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im confused, so your address that you used is different than whats on your credit card, same with the phone number?
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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this is what you get for living in

looks like they need to fix their mail system...
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 11:25 PM
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im confused, so your address that you used is different than whats on your credit card, same with the phone number?
Yes. My billing address is my parents house because that's where all my mail goes because I never bothered to change anything when I moved. Shipping address is my condo. Ive never had an issue doing this in the last 8 or so years either while I was away at school or living else where. I don't know why but newegg is particularly anal apparently. I use my work phone instead of my cell because if the sell my info to 3rd party marketers I don't want to be harassed on my cell. I just did the exact same thing on monoprice.com and no issue, my order was shipped same day. What really pisses me off is that if I didn't start asking questions my order would still be stalled with newegg, they never once reached out to me to say there was an issue, which is pretty shitty customer service. I don't think they will be getting much of my future business.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 11:27 PM
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i see. i havent used newegg in a while because i dont like paying tax.

you should send them a complaint, might get some free shit?
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
i see. i havent used newegg in a while because i dont like paying tax.

you should send them a complaint, might get some free shit?
I already did. I doubt I'll get shit since its my first time buying from them and it's not that big of a purchase. I'll just steer clear of them unless they are the only ones that have what i want.
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Old Mar 3, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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guess they have gone down hill over the years, they used to be great!

i used to use them all the time cause i didnt mind paying tax. And their regular shipping would get to me the next day cause i lived in CA.


i remember at school i ordered something from newegg the night before and it was at my door the next day. really threw me off.
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I spend thousands of dollars with newegg every year. Practically every computer part I buy comes from newegg. I've never had an issue with newegg itself. With parts yeah but not with them. Practically everything ships same day and often things arrive a day earlier than expected.

I've never used the socialized version though just the capitalized one. The workers there probably suck because they can't be fired......
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Old Mar 4, 2011 | 06:56 AM
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I've never had a problem with newegg either and I also buy almost everything there that's computing related.

The difficulties Dougler is having are entirely because he's international and residential with different delivery and billing addresses, a huge red flag for potential credit card fraud.
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Newegg is fine if you like other people's used products sold as OEM.
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It doesn't help that Dougie's last name is of Nigerian descent either....
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Newegg is fine if you like other people's used products sold as OEM.
I've built many computers from parts bought at Newegg and have never had any reason to believe they were anything other than new.
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I've built many computers from parts bought at Newegg and have never had any reason to believe they were anything other than new.
I, unfortunately, got used parts. And due to the nature of what I ordered, them being used made them worthless to a majority of people I would try to resell to.

I don't have a problem with them turning around and selling returns, but they need to either have a grasp of what certain used parts entail or have a better QA program in place.

I'll order from them again, but I'll be very careful about it in the future and ensure that I can test the parts immediately.
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Originally Posted by #1 STUNNA

I've never used the socialized version though just the capitalized one. The workers there probably suck because they can't be fired......
Hardee har har. It's the same newegg ships from LA, they just have a Canadian Tax remit# so the charge it up front so it clears customs faster and I don't get any surprises at my door when it's delivered.

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The difficulties Dougler is having are entirely because he's international and residential with different delivery and billing addresses, a huge red flag for potential credit card fraud.
Bingo. Which is understandable. What is not understandable is how they just let my order languish in purgatory instead of reaching out and saying hey we need this confirmed so please do X step and let us know once your done so we can verify. If I didn't look into it because I still haven't received shipping notice then who knows how long it could have sat there.
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MS released a KB article about WHS and the new Advanced Format Disks.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2385...rss&spid=12624
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I just installed the Awieco WakeOnLAN and DriveInfo Add-ins. The Wake on Lan allows you to wake your other PCs either from the WHS dashboard or you can install the add-in on all connected PCs since WHS Vail will push the add-in to all PCs automatically once they start the launchpad app.

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Drive info gives you a pie and bar chart view of your drive space. Mine currently looks like this:

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I just installed the Awieco WakeOnLAN
some el'cheapo motherboards are cutting out wake on lan now (ex hp 500$ pc) - its pretty queer if ur going to use it to host files after its prime (as they are quiet and most have HDMI now).
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