x2.

 

^^^ yea, I'm gonna have to move my router out of the closet into the entertainment center. Then I will be able to attach both PS3 and a PC to it via hard line.

 

I decommissioned my NAS a month ago. Last night I moved its 4 x 1TB drives into my WHS. It's now got ten drives and 10.6 TB of storage. I'm out of room in the case and don't have good cooling for all of the drives, so I ordered this to transplant everything into:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...43&Tpk=pc-a70f



That'll give me direct cooling for every drive (with drive cages to put HDDs in the top 5 5.25" slots) and capacity for 17 hard drives total.

 

Damn.

 

NICE!

I STILL haven't been able to install the WHS Vail Beta on the VMWare ESXi Server at work.

 

You should hit up Whiskers for support with that.

 

I hear his really good with Zunes too!

 

 

The one person who owns one didn't call me yet. I guess they are bulletproof..

 

I'm in the middle of upgrading my case too. Originally my system was a single core amd sempron with 512mb of RAM and a couple drives and all it did was WHS. then I decided to put hyper-v 2008r2 on it so I could run multiple OSes so I bought a new mobo and CPU, I went dual core and 8gb of ram. I'm now quad core and my case can't handle it anymore. I'm having sporadic shutdown issues probably from myt power supply and the $20 case it's in. It's a work in progress

 

When i get around to building one im importing you up to Wisconsin for teh day/weekend to help me get it all running!

 

Heh. It's easy stuff. If you've ever built a PC, this is a piece of cake.

 

Built many, getting them to network is the problem

 

I've never had a problem with that, so I have zero troubleshooting skills.

 

Well I've been using vail instead of my old linux setup for a little over a month now (with frequent back-ups of course). The remote streaming thing is pretty neat, and I really like the back up situation for a small home network. Are there any add ins that I should know about that work with the beta?

 

I'm almost done overhauling my system. I installed a new case and power supply, added 3 120mm fans, replaced the stock CPU cooler/Fan and replaced the APC battery backup with a bigger one with voltage regulation. My first 1.5TB WD Caviar Black just showed up and I'm about to start the install of WHS Vail on it. My 2nd 1.5TB Black should arrive on Thursday and those two drives along with my other 1TB drive and a random 300GB drive gives me over 4TB for my WHS Backup/Media streaming needs! I'll be giving my impression of the new WHS version once I get to spend some time with it.

 

Looking forward to the review.

 

+1. I got my WHS transplanted into the new case last weekend. The only thing I'm getting concerned with is if I have enough of a power supply to deal with the large number of disk drives. I guess as long as they don't spin up all at the same time (at 2A each), I'll be OK.

 

Are they in a RAID? if so, they will probably spin at the same time.

 

You don't want to use RAID on the drives used for backup data on WHS

 

No, no RAID at all in a WHS as Stunna said.

Is there any way to actually measure/monitor the load on the different rails of a power supply?

 

wait so no redundancy?

after dealing with that shit with seagate. i need some form of redundancy in case the drives fail on me.

 

Of course it has redundancy....

http://www.fearthecowboy.com/post/Wi...r-vs-RAID.aspx

 

so how does it work?

i dont get what it means by replication?

is it just copying the file twice?

 

It duplicates the file on separate drives. you can also backup your backups and the server OS and all your shared media files, everything.

 

That's exactly what it means. The file is stored on two different drives. Simple and effective, and easily extensible. Adding a drive is as simple as shutting down, installing the drive, starting back up, and then telling the WHS that the new drive is part of the server store.

With RAID, you'd have to back up the array, install the new drive, rebuild the array, and then restore the array.

Even with the X-RAID in my ReadyNAS, it took days to upgrade from 4 x 1TB to 4 x 1.5TB drives as it had to repair the array as I replaced the drives one by one, then spent a day expanding the array when I finally got all four of the larger drives in.

The WHS solution is much friendlier.

 

so its kind of like raid 1?

and what about if you had 4x 1TB drives like you had. and wanted to replace them all with 2TB drives? how would WHS manage that?

 

Well I'd just add the 2TBs to the 1TBs for a total of 12TB. If you really wanted to replace them, you'd do a one at a time replacement of the 1TB drives with the 2TB drives.

The only one you'd have to keep would be the one with the OS on it.

 

MS just made available the "Release Candidate" version of WHS Vail. Also available is the 2008 R2 based SBS and SBS Aurora betas! Aurora is BAD ASS! Take the backup, RDP, extensibility features of WHS Vail and have it fuck SBS with Domain and Exchange Server support and they have a baby, that baby is named Aurora! Aww mutha fuckin yeah! This is gonna be a great product for the SMB market.

Aurora is EXACTLY what I want in my house. I have to main VMs running, Server 2008 R2 Enterprise for domain and Exchange purposes and WHS Vail for backup, media sharing purposes. Aurora now fills the role of both VMs but man I'd have to wipe out and start over again! I probably will though, I need the practice!

Checkout WHS Vail RC here
http://connect.microsoft.com/windowshomeserver

and the new SBS and SBS Aurora Betas here
https://connect.microsoft.com/sbs

 

how long from RC to launch. Me wants.

 

It should be out holiday season so I'd say Oct or Nov

 

wow, thanks for the heads up. i'm running an hp mediasmart server. i probably would have built my own if i knew then what i know now about WHS. but it was a pretty good deal at $399 when I got it. in any event, I'm definitely interested in doing the upgrade. i just have to know that i'll end up losing all the additional functionality that hp includes with the server. i guess i'll be cruisin www.mediasmartserver.net

 

They need to hurry up and finalize Vail. I'm getting tired of these preview releases.

 

HOLY SHIT! The next version of WHS Vail and SBS Aurora have OS X SUPPORT!! FUCK YES! This thing just got even more awesomer!

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-20013790-56.html

 

Hmm, buying a copy now would mean a upgrade wouldn't be free, correct?

 

There is no upgrade path from the current version to the new one. If you want the new version, you have to wait.

 

Figured.

BTW, check my thread in Home Electronics.

 

I spent the night installing the RC version of Vail. I had a hiccup that was caused by it being installed in my VM. It didn't like the Virtual Synthetic NIC and it would pause during setup, only way to fix it was to use a "Legacy NIC" then go back to the synthetic on after initial setup was complete. I installed the software on my MBP and it DOESN'T perform backups for OS X Machines but I'd expect them to add this in the future, doesn't make for them to only allow you to manage the Server but not backup to it. Maybe in the final version or in a Power Pack update. But now that I've been poking around the new connector software I'd expect OS X backup to be included in the final version. It seems the UI is there for it but it's just not working, yet.

On the Windows side the new connector software requires .NET 4 Framework to be installed which is a new requirement. So you might as well install it now to save a little time and a reboot when setting up WHS Vail. Also they've switched the color from blue to green, if anyone cares.

 

Actually WHS Connector on the Mac side seems to integrate with Time Machine backup status so the WHS will know via the WHS Connector software if the Mac has been backed up or not. Still keeping my fingers crossed for built-in Time Capsule capability for WHS.

 

Oh and the rebuild I did on my Hyper-V server a couple months ago has been successful I haven't had a single crash since even with power outages and the AC being out for the last week, it kept on kicking! Before it was crashing about everyday or a few times a day