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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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Verizon Push-To-Talk phones

Just got one from work and I don't really see the appeal of PTT. The delay seems too long and it seems easier to just call the person. Am I missing something? What's the advantage? Only 1 person can talk at a time.

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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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what if you want to setup a conference call with 20 people, across the country, right away?
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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Ah! Good point. I guess I was only looking at it from the perspective that 3 of us got it at work and we sit in the same room.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:43 PM
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:47 PM
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TL_Diplomat,

no, nextel cannot do nationwide group calling.

you would have to get verizon wireless for this feature. plus you know ahead of time if the person you are going to PTT is available or not. again, not available on nextel. plus you can setup your own groups on a website, again, not available on nextel. plus, your phone number is your PTT number, only on verizon. plus, your phone works on the hands down largest, highest quality network in the country. plus, you get verizon's customer service ... what's better about nextel? the initial call setup time is faster on nextel. that is the only advantage. somebody think they know better?
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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Yes its nextel, but their patent expired so now its going to be seen at all the major cell providers. And of course each provider will be doing something different with it then the next guy.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Yes its nextel, but their patent expired so now its going to be seen at all the major cell providers.
what are you trying to say?

there are, never were, any relevant patents to PTT.

verizon wireless waited until it's 3G1X network was completed nationwide to launch PTT.

you will see others offerings from other providers, but it is not easy.

nextel's method of PTT is completely different than verizon's. again I say, patents do not apply.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by fbazakos
what are you trying to say?

there are, never were, any relevant patents to PTT.

verizon wireless waited until it's 3G1X network was completed nationwide to launch PTT.

you will see others offerings from other providers, but it is not easy.

nextel's method of PTT is completely different than verizon's. again I say, patents do not apply.
I will wait till kensteele or someone else in the cell industry to chime but i think you are incorrect.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by sarlacc23
I will wait till kensteele or someone else in the cell industry to chime but i think you are incorrect.
which part of what I said do you think is incorrect?

also, i think it will help if you clarify your original statement.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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I think the part about the patents is incorrect.

Why else would all the other cell phones companies be rushing to get the ptt feature around the same time. Especially when nextell has had the feature for years. And it just so happens that their patent regarding the feature expired.

Now maybe im just talking out of my ass based on ive been told, but till im proven wrong it all makes sense to me.

Edit- PS there methods of bringing you ptt may not be the same, but the technology providing it is.
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Old Oct 21, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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what is it????
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by sarlacc23
I think the part about the patents is incorrect.

Why else would all the other cell phones companies be rushing to get the ptt feature around the same time. Especially when nextell has had the feature for years. And it just so happens that their patent regarding the feature expired.

Now maybe im just talking out of my ass based on ive been told, but till im proven wrong it all makes sense to me.

Edit- PS there methods of bringing you ptt may not be the same, but the technology providing it is.
the reason is because they did not have a method (read: technology) to do it.

nextel runs a technology called iDEN. it is mainly a PTT network, which "oh by the way" you can make cell phone calls on. that is why the PTT works well, and their cell service sucks.

verizon and sprint run CDMA, now they run CDMA 2000 (3G) which offers high speed data. This network upgrade was completed recently. the reason that PTT is being offered just now on verizon is because they needed the CDMA 2000 network to run the transport for the voice over IP for the OTT. att and cingular are upgrading to GSM/GPRS, which may give them enough bandwidth to do PTT with VoIP ... but we have yet to see it in the marketplace, and they may have to wait for EDGE.

the only similarity between nextel's PTT and verizon's PTT (and sprint/att/cingular/alltel's future offerings) is the end result. in a nutshell, nextel uses iDEN (truncated analog radio), verizon uses CDMA 2000 (voice sent as data packets).

nextel has no patents.

let me know if this helps clear up everything for you.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 04:52 AM
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what is it????
you serious? or kidding? well either way ...

PTT stands for "Push to Talk" ... a service that has existed since World War 1. Back then they called it 2-way radios ... but the service has now been enhanced. Nextel has been offering "direct connect" service for the past 10 or so years. Verizon has thrown it's hat in the ring with it's Push to Talk service. You press a dedicated "PTT button" on the side of the phone, it brings up your buddy list, the you can choose to "barge" or "alert" an individual or group. The network then sets up the call and off you go.

Let me know if you would like more information.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:22 AM
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Originally posted by fbazakos
you serious? or kidding? well either way ...

PTT stands for "Push to Talk" ... a service that has existed since World War 1. Back then they called it 2-way radios ... but the service has now been enhanced. Nextel has been offering "direct connect" service for the past 10 or so years. Verizon has thrown it's hat in the ring with it's Push to Talk service. You press a dedicated "PTT button" on the side of the phone, it brings up your buddy list, the you can choose to "barge" or "alert" an individual or group. The network then sets up the call and off you go.

Let me know if you would like more information.
You're my hero. But seriously what the fuck make the phone a little thinner. The current V60 PTT is a fucking beast. Do you know of them coming out with a smaller, color one.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:27 AM
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whens the samsung A690 i think coming out?
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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Someone awoke the Verizon beast from him slumber.

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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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i heard a girl bitch another girl out, and then the other girl come back with a valley girl whatever.


listening to peoples conversations on those things are funny
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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i too dont understand the fascination with PTT.

but to each his own
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:14 AM
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I will wait till kensteele or someone else in the cell industry to chime but i think you are incorrect.
Your crazy Fotis knows alot of fucking shit about phones, and verizon....HE ownz you...
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:15 AM
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i too dont understand the fascination with PTT.

but to each his own
You used to like it when you were 5 years old...

Now it's just a bunch of older people using it to respark their childhood...
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:16 AM
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You're my hero.
He is my hero also...i wish i knew all that technical shit as well...

Where have you been man?? You never bother me on the ptt anymore...I might be switching phones soon also....
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 02:37 PM
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Hehe, I wouldn't comment on this not even. Nextel is looking for anyway to sue somebody over PTT so take it FWIW. Obvioulsly there's a lot about this I can't say...

All I can say is Nextel doesn't own PTT any more than Sprint owns PictureMail or sending pictures from the handset to an online album or another handset.

Hehe, Verizon is "testing the waters". I'd rather get it "right" than get it first. Since when has Verizon been interested in sleek, shiny phones? It's the service....

Later.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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fuck verizon and nextel. verizon's cheapest ptt plan is 40 bucks plus 20 for ptt making it 60 bucks and you cant do shareplans. Sprint is only going to be 5 buck on ANY plan and its going to have the fastest connection time, Period.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:16 PM
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and btw: sprints ptt
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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Cuz sprint will have live video phones by christmas
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:18 PM
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Sprint's technology uses VoIP
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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shared plans on verizon will be coming out real real soon...and do you have any info to support what your saying??
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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Speculation.....rumor..... :P
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 06:35 PM
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Speculation.....rumor..... :P
always is...these kids who think they know cellular walk into howardforums and suck in all the bad info...and think they know it all....
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:14 PM
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fuck verizon and nextel. verizon's cheapest ptt plan is 40 bucks plus 20 for ptt making it 60 bucks and you cant do shareplans. Sprint is only going to be 5 buck on ANY plan and its going to have the fastest connection time, Period.
back ur bullshit up... i highly doubt they'd offer it a $5 p/mo.

they'll be in more debt than they all ready are....
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:15 PM
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wait.....does it count against mintues or is it just a walkie talkie?
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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wait.....does it count against mintues or is it just a walkie talkie?
its basically +$20 to any America's Choice calling plan for unlimited ptt
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 08:33 PM
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nextel ptt > verizon ptt
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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Verizon coverage > ALLL
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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somebody (darrinb or anybody) go into detail to back up your statement or opinion.

then I'll go ...

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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Red Nj-s
wait.....does it count against mintues or is it just a walkie talkie?
as yuppie said, it is unlimited push to talk ... including nationwide group calling. here's a hint to darrin ... nextel doesn't offer this ... they aren't capable.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 10:16 AM
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always is...these kids who think they know cellular walk into howardforums and suck in all the bad info...and think they know it all....
I got this from our sprint rep

btw: my mom says that im a big boy now since i dont have to wear pampers any more.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 10:19 AM
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back ur bullshit up... i highly doubt they'd offer it a $5 p/mo.

they'll be in more debt than they all ready are....
Full of shit? naw, only my cack

how do you figure they cant offer it for $5? they have unlimited pcs to pcs for $5 dollars a month. so ptt for $5 is completley doable.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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Full of shit? naw, only my cack

how do you figure they cant offer it for $5? they have unlimited pcs to pcs for $5 dollars a month. so ptt for $5 is completley doable.
well they are two completely different uses of their network, so the COST to sprint will be different. mobile to mobile is pretty cheap, since you utilize only your own voice network. since sprint will be doing PTT the same way as verizon (VoIP as siggy echoed my statement), it will utilize the 3G data network. 1 minute of airtime for a voice call (especially PCS to PCS) is a heck of a lot cheap than 1 minute of airtime for a 3G data call.
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Old Oct 24, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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Anyone have complaints with verizon? I’m thinking of maybe switching to them but I’ve heard bad things about their reception and customer service. any truth to this?
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