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Old 02-17-2017, 12:27 PM   #41
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Unlimited 2G roaming???

Do new phones even support 2G anymore?
iPhones still work on 2G. Perfect for when going to China.

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So ATT doesn't support single line?
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What about places other than China. I got those same results when I googled it.

i have ZERO plans ever on going to China.
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So ATT doesn't support single line?
You mean 1 line that's unlimited? Yes, it's $100.

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What about places other than China. I got those same results when I googled it.
GSM World Coverage Map- GSM Country List by frequency bands

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i have ZERO plans ever on going to China.
Too much smog?
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Nah not just smog. More like rude AF mainland Chinese people.
plus so much sketchy fake stuff out there. Not sure what's safe to eat.

ohh and crowded as hell.
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Hmmm I'm still on the grandfathered unlimited data plan under a family plan with 3 users.

been wondering since I read the news if this is worth it.
I had unlimited back then with Cingular/AT&T (like 2010), but after monitoring my monthly usage, I noticed I was wasting money on unlimited. I was skating by on 200mb/month, so I decreased my limit to save money

Went to Verizon to try a Galaxy Nexus, ended up being the worst smartphone I've ever had. By the time I went back to AT&T, they already ditched unlimited. Who knew I'd use so much data now, and I don't stream movies or anything.

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Looks like Tmobile still has them all beat. And Tmobile coverage has improved too.

https://opensignal.com/reports/2016/...obile-network/

Sprint looks to be less expensive $ wise during their 1st year promo pricing, but if you factor in taxes and fees, it's probably same price as Tmobile or maybe even a little more.

Plus, Tmobile has a few extra features others don't like free 1 hour of data usage and unlimited texting on flights via GoGo, unlimited 2G data roaming for rest of world, Tmobile Tuesday, and taxes/fees included in their price (what you see is what you pay).
Wow I should have priced shopped. I'm on a family plan, so it's still cheaper for me to be on AT&T, but I will consider T-Mobile in the future
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Old 02-17-2017, 02:25 PM   #47
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Read that wrong, Verizon is still cheaper... hmm
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I reset my cell usage every billing cycle. Currently at 12GB used since the 25th of Jan.

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Read that wrong, Verizon is still cheaper... hmm
Cheaper than AT&T for 1 line ($100 AT&T vs $80 Verizon) and 3 lines ($180 AT&T vs $162 Verizon), but same for 2 lines and 4 lines.

But Tmobile still least expensive overall, unless I'm missing something.

If you just need 1 line, Sprint (even after adding taxes/fees) might be least expensive or about the same as Tmobile, but Sprint also gives you less features.

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Nah not just smog. More like rude AF mainland Chinese people.
plus so much sketchy fake stuff out there. Not sure what's safe to eat.

ohh and crowded as hell.
Don't you want to go see the great wall and stand right where Matt Damon fought all the evil monsters and saved all our fellow ?

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Cheaper than AT&T for 1 line ($100 AT&T vs $80 Verizon) and 3 lines ($180 AT&T vs $162 Verizon), but same for 2 lines and 4 lines.

But Tmobile still least expensive overall, unless I'm missing something.

If you just need 1 line, Sprint (even after adding taxes/fees) might be least expensive or about the same as Tmobile, but Sprint also gives you less features.

My bad, I was thinking out loud and only comparing Verizon and AT&T. I thought about jumping to T-Mo a while back, but noticed my buddies having issues with coverage in certain areas... but that was a while ago.
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Looks like AT&T have revised their unlimited plan. Instead of $100 a month for 1 line and no tethering, it (Unlimited Plus) is now $90 a month with 10GB of tethering.

4 Unlimited Plus lines run $185 now vs $180 before.

https://arstechnica.com/information-...-of-tethering/

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AT&T lowers unlimited data price to $90, adds 10GB of tethering

AT&T also creates a cheaper "unlimited" plan that's throttled to 3Mbps

2/27/2017

AT&T is feeling the heat of competition and as a result has lowered the price of its unlimited data plan from $100 to $90 a month, also improving it by adding 10GB of high-speed tethering data. AT&T today also announced a $60-per-month option for customers who are willing to accept slower speeds of no more than 3Mbps.

Until recently, AT&T only sold its $100-per-month unlimited smartphone data plan to customers who also subscribed to DirecTV or U-verse TV. After unlimited data announcements from Verizon and T-Mobile USA, AT&T made its unlimited plan available to any customer but initially did not change any of its annoying limitations. Unlimited data users thus couldn't use their phones as mobile hotspots to get Internet access for other devices.

Today's announcement cut the monthly price from $100 to $90 and renamed the plan "Unlimited Data Plus." Customers will get 10GB of high-speed tethering each month. After the 10GB is used, tethering speeds are reduced to 128kbps. There were no changes to this plan on the HD video front: the best video quality is still disabled by default, but customers can watch video in HD by disabling the "Stream Saver" option, AT&T told Ars.

AT&T also created an "Unlimited Choice" plan that costs $60 a month and also has no data caps and overage fees. However, this plan doesn't include any tethering capability, and video is always reduced to about 480p resolution or a maximum bandwidth of 1.5Mbps. Overall speeds on the $60 plan are reduced to a maximum of 3Mbps, whereas the more expensive plan provides "our fastest speed."

The $90 and $60 prices require customers to get paperless bills and make automatic payments with a bank account or debit card, as credit card payments are not eligible for those prices. Without the autopay discount, the price rises $5 for single-line plans and $10 for multiline plans.

Unlimited data plans don't have any data caps or extra fees for using too much data, but they're not entirely without monthly limits. With both the $90 and $60 plans, customers may see slower speeds for the rest of the month after they use 22GB on a line, but speeds will only be slowed "during times of network congestion." This is similar to the policies of other carriers, although T-Mobile sets the limit at 28GB.

AT&T has special pricing for customers who bundle mobile plans with DirecTV or U-verse TV. Unlimited Plus customers will get a $25 monthly credit on TV packages. This also applies to the DirecTV Now online streaming service, which starts at $35 a month. As a result, you can get a single line of unlimited data with DirecTV Now for $100 a month.




But not to be outdone, Tmobile made some changes to their Unlimited plan too.

You can now get 3 unlimited lines for $100 (all taxes and fees included). Was $140 before.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/02/27/...one-up-atandt/

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T-Mobile upgrades its unlimited plan again to one-up AT&T

New and existing customers with two lines can now get a third for free.

Feb 27, 2017

T-Mobile added HD video streaming and 10GB of LTE hotspot tethering to its unlimited One plan earlier this month, possibly as a response to Verizon's new unlimited data plan. Yes, the mobile carrier wars have been intense lately, and they're getting even hotter. Just hours after AT&T announced it was also adding 10GB of tethering data to its unlimited plan, T-Mobile fired back with another tweak to its One plan. Now, new and existing customers with two lines can get a third for free.

Starting March 1st, customers will be able to snag three lines for $100 (with fees and taxes included) on a One, Simple Choice or Simple Choice No Credit plan. And don't worry, if you've already got three or more lines, you can tack on another for free, according to the @TMobileHelp Twitter account. The promo doesn't have an end date yet, but customers who get in on it now will be able to keep their free line for as long as they're on an eligible T-Mobile plan.

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need to wait this one out a bit. moms 2 year contract is coming up around christmas time.

I believe shes the last one in our family still on a contract.
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My bad, I was thinking out loud and only comparing Verizon and AT&T. I thought about jumping to T-Mo a while back, but noticed my buddies having issues with coverage in certain areas... but that was a while ago.
tmobile still doesn't have coverage no matter where you.
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Anyone get their check yet? I got $15 2 days ago.
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Old 04-28-2017, 12:50 PM   #56
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tmobile still doesn't have coverage no matter where you.
I suppose that's true if you live out in the boonies. But TMobile has been closing the gap with Verizon : https://opensignal.com/reports/2017/...obile-network/

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State of Mobile Networks: USA (February 2017)

Analysis

The war between T-Mobile and Verizon over network performance has taken a new twist. In our latest round of tests, Verizon has regained lost ground in 4G speed, bringing it even with T-Mobile. Meanwhile T-Mobile has continued to narrow the gap with Verizon in our 4G availability rankings, putting the Un-carrier within a stone's throw of matching Verizon signal for signal. In no report has the clash between the two operators been so heated. Either Verizon or T-Mobile won or shared every single national award in our report.

In our third State of Mobile Networks report for the U.S., OpenSignal parsed 4.6 billion measurements collected by 169,683 smartphone users in the fourth quarter of 2016 to gauge the 3G and 4G performance of national operators AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile and Verizon. We also examined 4G speed and availability in 36 of the biggest cities in the U.S.

A tightening race over 4G reach

Verizon has long been proud of its network reach, and its dominance in 4G availability continued in our latest tests. Rather than track geographic coverage, our availability metric measures the proportion of time our users can access a particular network. In Verizon's case, our testers were able to find an LTE signal 88.2% of the time, earning it once again our award for best 4G availability. For the last year, however, T-Mobile has been climbing up our rankings. In our last report, T-Mobile surpassed AT&T, and in our most recent tests T-Mobile has closed the gap separating it from Verizon to within 2 percentage points. Users were able to connect to the T-Mobile network 86.6% of the time, while we measured AT&T's 4G availability at 82.2%.

And TMobile is constantly building out their network. They're buying almost $8 billion worth of new low frequency spectrum to address holes in rural areas and improve overall coverage:

https://arstechnica.com/information-...ork-across-us/

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T-Mobile dominates spectrum auction, will boost LTE network across US

4/13/2017

T-Mobile USA was the biggest winner in an auction that shifted licenses in the 600MHz spectrum band from TV broadcasters to the cellular industry.

T-Mobile will pay $7.99 billion for 1,525 licenses spread throughout the country, according to the results announced today. T-Mobile boasted in a press release that it won 45 percent of the spectrum in the auction, amounting to "31MHz nationwide on average, quadrupling the Un-carrier’s low-band holdings."

Low-band spectrum is particularly important for covering long distances and penetrating obstacles such as building walls, which have long been problems for T-Mobile's network. The new spectrum should also help T-Mobile in rural areas, where it lags behind AT&T and Verizon in network quality. T-Mobile generally performs well in metro areas.

"With this purchase, T-Mobile now has significantly more low-band spectrum per customer than any other major provider and nearly triple the low-band spectrum per customer than Verizon," T-Mobile said.

Here's a map that illustrates what T-Mobile expects its actual LTE network coverage will look like at the end of this year, combining deployments from existing spectrum and the spectrum it just acquired:



We'd expect that to improve in 2018 and beyond, as T-Mobile won't be able to deploy all its new spectrum this year.

If people thought TMobile coverage was crap, Verizon and AT&T wouldn't be losing customers to TMobile. Why would people move to TMobile, pay for their service, but not be able to use it?

T-Mobile Earns a Victory Lap - Barron's

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T-Mobile remains the bright spot in the wireless industry

April 25, 2017

If there’s a bright spot in the wireless business these days, it’s shining solely on T-Mobile.

Less than a week after a dismal earnings report from Verizon, T-Mobile was in a more celebratory mood. T-Mobile added 798,000 post-paid subscribers in its latest three month period; Verizon lost 307,000 during that time.

“We estimate that we captured over 250% of the industry’s postpaid phone growth this quarter,” T-Mobile CEO John Legere told investors on a conference call Monday night. In his usually frank manner, Legere added: “And, as you’ve seen, Verizon reported a disaster of a quarter with nearly 300,000 postpaid phone losses, despite all the hype around the launch of their unlimited plan.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/t-mobil...rld-1493071904

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T-Mobile Is the Envy of the Wireless World

April 24, 2017

T-Mobile TMUS -0.84% US on Monday reported first-quarter earnings that blew past analysts’ expectations, saying it added 1.1 million subscribers, including 798,000 of the industry’s most valuable postpaid phone customers. Its wireless service revenue climbed 11.4% over the previous year.

While that represented a slowdown in T-Mobile’s subscriber growth, it stood in contrast to Verizon Communications’ results last Thursday when it posted its first-ever quarterly net loss of wireless subscribers.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-co...ers-1493153512

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AT&T Continues to Lose Subscribers

April 25, 2017

AT&T Inc. continued to shed wireless and television subscribers in the first quarter of the year.

AT&T’s wireless business, its main moneymaker, lost 348,000 mainstream wireless phone customers, marking a return to the large losses characteristic of the past two years after an easing in the previous period. Phone additions are considered important because they are the most lucrative mobility accounts, and customers with postpaid phone accounts tend to stay longer.

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I know 2 people who switched to T-Mo with brand new iPhones. They hate it after leaving ATT. Problems with calls inside buildings and data not as fast. They haven't switched back because their contract and they're cheaper than ATT. I think T-Mo is getting subscribers because their marketing is on fire. Legere pushes out some popular ideas. I can't even name the other CEO's off the top of my head.
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I'm contemplating too on switching to tmo, mainly due to their cheaper unlimited plan which includes unlimited 2g overseas.

quick look on the website, for 3 lines it'd be $140/month, more than $100 cheaper than what I'm paying with at&t and grandfathered unlimited.
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I know 2 people who switched to T-Mo with brand new iPhones. They hate it after leaving ATT. Problems with calls inside buildings and data not as fast. They haven't switched back because their contract and they're cheaper than ATT. I think T-Mo is getting subscribers because their marketing is on fire. Legere pushes out some popular ideas. I can't even name the other CEO's off the top of my head.
TMobile doesn't have contracts anymore though. Maybe they're on a device payment plan (DPP)? If so, they could have paid off the device and left, or they could have cancelled service within 30 days for full refund of service and device cost. Maybe they didn't know?

Before making the switch they should have had ATT unlock their phones, if they weren't already, and then bought a pre-paid TMobile SIM kit with $30 plan from Walmart to test out network and see if it works for them. If it didn't, they would have had their ATT account to go back to. Less hassle than cancelling ATT service, porting number to TMobile, trying service for 30 days and if you're not happy with it, cancel service and port number back to ATT. Plus, no dings to credit from them running credit checks.
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Contract/Phone financing (it is a contract). Semantics. Yeah some people don't realize within 30 days that it sucks, or they're lazy, or whatever. Trust me they don't know what unlocking a phone means
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I use TMob and I don't have service at my home. If not for wifi calling, I wouldn't use them.
My wife uses AT&T, and based on our experience traveling around the country, AT&T coverage is light years ahead of TMob. It's not even close.
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