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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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WinOSX...

wtf would i want to rate "Set Program Access and Defaults" shortcut for
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by soopa
to a large extent, this is the truth. it is untrue though that you can't slap random parts into a mac, you can upgrade just bout everything but motherboard and processor.

but yes, what you say is primarily the reason for easy configuration and compatibility from mac to mac. and largely the benefit of paying a little bit more for quality
Well the fact that they are the same hardware is good for Apple and the consumer. It reduces support calls which in turn redues support costs for the company. It also eliminates the need for the consumer to make a call about an ambiguous error and beat the shit out of his/her computer!
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Astroboy
Wow, total spotlight rip off.
i am not digging the every window is translucent either.


Also, why is the start menu so freaking huge or is it just me who thinks that?
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Well, I'm ready for Beta 2 now. I can't get sound drivers for the Sony that I installed it on. I tried the XP drivers and the driver installer complained. I was hoping that I would be able to use it as my primary work machine but I like having sound.

I put the machine into a test W2k3 domain to see how it would behave. In WinXP and below the login screen will offer you a choice of domains to login. Vista doesn't do that. It just offered user/password. I had to put the username in the form of domain\user. I don't like the way it handles user switching. The way it currently works is like this...You hit logoff. It offers you logoff or switch user. You pick switch user. It then asks you for ctrl-alt-delete. It then offers you the same user id and asks for a password. You have to hit switch user for a second time so you can change the user id.

Windows Update from IE 7 said that Vista wasn't yet supported and told me to turn on automatic updates and deal.

IE 7 seemed okay. I'll install it on my XP machine when its out of beta.

I may drop this machine outside our firewall and see if it gets attacked and taken over.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Just found something else I don't like. If a user locks the computer, only that user can unlock it. In previous versions an admin can logoff/unlock the current user.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by doopstr
Just found something else I don't like. If a user locks the computer, only that user can unlock it. In previous versions an admin can logoff/unlock the current user.
That sounds like a bug. Admin should always be able to log the person off. I guess you could Remote Desktop in and reboot if you had to.

I've never liked the idea of user switching. OSX has it and I'll never used it. IMO you are either logged in or not.
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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doop, keep in mind it's a Microsoft beta. Which usually means alpha...
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Old Jul 29, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Malayalee King
WinOSX...

wtf would i want to rate "Set Program Access and Defaults" shortcut for
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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took long enough



A virus writer has published the first examples of malicious code that targets Microsoft's upcoming command-line shell, code-named Monad, according to Finnish antivirus maker F-Secure. If the technology is included in Windows Vista, these could be one of the first viruses to target the new operating system formerly known as Longhorn, F-Secure said Thursday.

Monad, also known as MSH, is the replacement for the simple command shell in the current versions of Windows. A shell, also called a command line interface, allows a user to give a computer textual commands either from a keyboard or from a script. Monad has much more functionality, similar to shells in competing products such as Bash in Unix. However, by adding the ability to run more-complex scripts, Microsoft could possibly open another door to attackers.

Monad will support Windows Server 2003, Windows XP and Windows Vista, Microsoft representatives said in a Web chat late last year. However, the software maker has not disclosed how it will deliver the tool.

The examples that made it to the Web would cause little harm but could be modified, according to Mikko Hypponen, director of antivirus research at F-Secure.

Hypponen warned that if Microsoft ships Monad with Vista and it is enabled by default this could lead to an "outbreak of scripting viruses." Microsoft may choose to ship the tool as an add-on or disable it by default to reduce the risk, he added.

Microsoft initially planned to include Monad in Vista, formerly known by its Longhorn code-name. However, company representatives have said the tool would first ship as a feature of Exchange 12, due in the second half of 2006. Monad will ship in Windows after that, they said.

Monad is available to testers but is not part of the first Windows Vista beta, which Microsoft released last week, a company representative said Thursday. The shell tool also is not included in the beta of Windows Server 2003 R2, an update to Windows Server due later this year, the representative said.

"At this time, these reports pose no risk for Microsoft customers," the Microsoft representative said.

Microsoft has yet to announce how it will deliver Monad in the Windows operating system. A source familiar with Microsoft's plans said it is too early to say whether the new shell will make it into later beta versions of Windows Vista or the final product. Windows Vista is due on store shelves by the end of 2006.

A Microsoft developer in a blog posting on Thursday criticized the F-Secure report. "It's a misleading title, as it's an issue that affects any vehicle for any executable code on any operating system," wrote Lee Holmes, who works on the team building Monad.

"The fact that MSH is used as the execution vehicle is really a side-note, as it does not exploit any vulnerabilities in Monad," Holmes wrote. "The guidance on shell script viruses is the same as the guidance on all viruses and malware: protect yourself against the point of entry, and limit the amount of damage that the malicious code can do."

In a December online chat session with developers, Microsoft representatives specifically addressed the topic of script attacks. The company is taking measures to prevent those. For example, Monad will run only scripts that are digitally signed by a trusted person. Additionally, it won't be possible to double click on a script and have it run, according to a transcript of the session.

The possibility of viruses being aimed at Microsoft's new shell was discussed at the Virus Bulletin event last year. Eric Chien of Symantec said at the antivirus industry event that the new tool could allow the creation of both classic viruses as well as e-mail worms.

http://news.com.com/First+potential+...tml?tag=st.pop
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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"At this time, these reports pose no risk for Microsoft customers," the Microsoft representative said.



...next stop Service Pack 1 for MS Windows Vista.
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