Internet Explorer 9: GPU accelerated HTML 5 browser
03-16-2010, 12:14 PM
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Internet Explorer 9: GPU accelerated HTML 5 browser
This thing is looking good.
-Compiles Java in the background using a separate process on different CPU core
- Full CSS3 compatibility
- Developer preview has faster Sun Spider Java benchmark score than FF 3.6 and almost as fast as Chrome with more work
- All graphics and text are hardware accelerated.
- Graphic accelerated HTML 5 video support, CPU usage is MUCH lower in IE9 than in Chrome.
Sun Spider benchmark
You can download the developer preview at www.ietestdrive.com
also all the test demos showing of graphic acceleration, etc can be run from that site.
-Compiles Java in the background using a separate process on different CPU core
- Full CSS3 compatibility
- Developer preview has faster Sun Spider Java benchmark score than FF 3.6 and almost as fast as Chrome with more work
- All graphics and text are hardware accelerated.
- Graphic accelerated HTML 5 video support, CPU usage is MUCH lower in IE9 than in Chrome.
Sun Spider benchmark
You can download the developer preview at www.ietestdrive.com
also all the test demos showing of graphic acceleration, etc can be run from that site.
03-16-2010, 12:23 PM
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Sanest Florida Man
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Mi Malo the website is http://ie.microsoft.com/testdrive/
03-16-2010, 12:24 PM
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Sanest Florida Man
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Oh and it does NOT run on XP!
Windows XP!
Windows XP!
03-16-2010, 01:27 PM
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03-16-2010, 01:55 PM
#6
Sanest Florida Man
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Yes it is. I think it's better than OS X too...
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03-16-2010, 02:34 PM
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I wonder if something like this would be useful for these online game services that run games on their servers and just send the screen refreshes to the PC?
Anyone running Vista should upgrade to Win 7 ASAP.
Anyone running Vista should upgrade to Win 7 ASAP.
03-16-2010, 03:42 PM
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IE isn't using the GPU in a GPGPU computing sense it's using it to accelerate graphics and make text pretty. It's not making the program open faster or perform normal non-graphical tasks faster.
I was wondering that too but since most of those games right now use a plug-in it'd be up to the plug-in to support graphics acceleration. If it was an HTML 5 game then yes I it would.
03-16-2010, 03:54 PM
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Correct.
MS thinks that the Acid3 test isn't that important since it uses code that isn't even part of a final standard to pass. They've also played down the importance of Javascript scores cause Java is just one layer of many that goes in to making a webpage and different webpages use different amounts of Java. One site may require 40% of their code be java while another may only use 5% so having crazy fast java on a page that barely uses java won't really improve performance. So IE has always talked about improving performance on all parts of web rendering and not just Javascript.
Javascript speed and Acid3have kindof come a marketing gimmick much like megapixels in cameras; while megapixels are important it's not the only thing that makes a good picture.
the IE9 team has made (some) progress in the Acid3 test. IE8 scores 20/100 on the test, and the IE9 build demonstrated at PDC scored 32/100, so given that the IE9 build from MIX10 is at 55/100, we can see Microsoft is certainly taking standards a lot more seriously.
The company's stance on the test, however, has not changed. Microsoft refuses to simply give in and implement everything the test requires to pass; the company continues to downplay the test as it barely encompasses HTML5 but instead tests some technologies that are still in the "working draft" stage of standardization, including many edge cases and error conditions. While Microsoft has no plans to score 100/100, it is not ignoring the test; instead, the company is focusing on what it believes developers actually want supported. "As we support more of the markup, our Acid3 score will go up," Hachamovitch told Ars.
Microsoft's stance is debatable. The Acid3 test, even if not that useful, is nonetheless influential. IE's continued mediocre score creates the perception that the browser is far behind its competitors, and will likely do little to lessen Web developers' dislike for the browser. It's also another barrier to convincing the world Microsoft truly cares about standards.
The company's stance on the test, however, has not changed. Microsoft refuses to simply give in and implement everything the test requires to pass; the company continues to downplay the test as it barely encompasses HTML5 but instead tests some technologies that are still in the "working draft" stage of standardization, including many edge cases and error conditions. While Microsoft has no plans to score 100/100, it is not ignoring the test; instead, the company is focusing on what it believes developers actually want supported. "As we support more of the markup, our Acid3 score will go up," Hachamovitch told Ars.
Microsoft's stance is debatable. The Acid3 test, even if not that useful, is nonetheless influential. IE's continued mediocre score creates the perception that the browser is far behind its competitors, and will likely do little to lessen Web developers' dislike for the browser. It's also another barrier to convincing the world Microsoft truly cares about standards.
MS thinks that the Acid3 test isn't that important since it uses code that isn't even part of a final standard to pass. They've also played down the importance of Javascript scores cause Java is just one layer of many that goes in to making a webpage and different webpages use different amounts of Java. One site may require 40% of their code be java while another may only use 5% so having crazy fast java on a page that barely uses java won't really improve performance. So IE has always talked about improving performance on all parts of web rendering and not just Javascript.
Javascript speed and Acid3have kindof come a marketing gimmick much like megapixels in cameras; while megapixels are important it's not the only thing that makes a good picture.
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 03-16-2010 at 03:59 PM.
03-16-2010, 03:57 PM
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God damn Mac!!!
03-16-2010, 04:13 PM
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03-16-2010, 07:15 PM
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03-17-2010, 01:48 AM
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So looking at the examples in this chart you can see how much time IE spends on Java in proportion to other subsystems. MS stance all along has been while Java is important it isn't the only thing that goes into speeding up browsers. Their focus is on all the other aspects as well. The top purple block is rendering and that's another important part that can lead to big performance improvements. IE9 with it's GPU accelerated rendering for all text and graphics and enhanced multi-core support will improve that part.
03-17-2010, 01:54 AM
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03-17-2010, 10:58 AM
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03-17-2010, 04:29 PM
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One thing I don't like about IE is that is slow in general. Slow to open, slow to open new tabs or switch between tabs.
08-28-2010, 11:18 PM
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So I haven't bumped this thread in a while since there hasn't been much to talk about. But in the time between MS has been releasing updates at a steady pace that provide noticable performance improvements.
Sun Spider speeds have been improved a lot and currently it's faster than any version of Firefox or Safari 5 and it's basically as fast as Chrome and I'm sure there'll be more improvements in the future.
The ACID 3 test score has improved to 95/100 in the current version of the Preview, they say they'll achieve at 100/100 score before final release.
Now there's been a leak of the new UI. It's been rumored that the UI would be pretty bare bones much like Chrome. It appears the rumors where true:
Looks pretty sweet, it's got an Office 2010 glass look.
We'll find out a lot more when MS officially announces the Beta, new UI and features of IE9 on 9/15.
Sun Spider speeds have been improved a lot and currently it's faster than any version of Firefox or Safari 5 and it's basically as fast as Chrome and I'm sure there'll be more improvements in the future.
The ACID 3 test score has improved to 95/100 in the current version of the Preview, they say they'll achieve at 100/100 score before final release.
Now there's been a leak of the new UI. It's been rumored that the UI would be pretty bare bones much like Chrome. It appears the rumors where true:
Looks pretty sweet, it's got an Office 2010 glass look.
We'll find out a lot more when MS officially announces the Beta, new UI and features of IE9 on 9/15.
08-28-2010, 11:37 PM
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so should i switch to chrome or this?
08-28-2010, 11:51 PM
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Currently it's stripped down version. if you look at the ACID 3 pic I posted, that window is the entire UI right now, there's no address bar or back button, it's currently for developers only. They're announcing the UI in a couple weeks. I'm gonna give it try, I'm pretty sold on Chrome right now so it'll be interesting to see if they can convince me to switch. Right now, I'm sticking with chrome
08-28-2010, 11:58 PM
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ill get chrome then. give it a shot.
does it have that speed dial thing?
does it have that speed dial thing?
08-29-2010, 12:17 AM
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08-30-2010, 12:00 PM
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And count me in as another Chrome user who will consider switching to IE if they keep the UI at a bare minimum. That's mainly what I love about Chrome.
09-15-2010, 12:19 PM
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Alright the beta is out! Engadget has done a pretty thorough review of it and they pretty much love it. They say lots of good things about it.
Review
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/i...9-beta-review/
Download it here
www.beautyoftheweb.com
Originally Posted by Engadget
We've hit you with a lot of information here, but at the end of the day our main question remains: do we need to continue to download Chrome or Firefox every time we get a new PC? Our answer: it's certainly not mandatory anymore, or at least it shouldn't be by the time IE9 is ready to ship with new PCs. The interface is attractive and clean, the new features robust and the speed greatly improved. Microsoft has sped up and cleaned up Internet Explorer 9 to a point where it's not only usable, but actually a real pleasure to use.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/i...9-beta-review/
Download it here
www.beautyoftheweb.com
09-15-2010, 01:07 PM
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Some of the new features are finally a Download Manager, Speed Dial on the new tab page and pinned sites which I'll demonstrate below.
Pinned sites works by grabbing a tab from IE9 and dragging it to the taskbar. That site then gets its own icon on the taskbar and if supported by the site it can have jump lists. Pinning allows you to save a site to the taskbar and now if I want to go to AZ it has it's own icon on the taskbar and I can click it and it launches in IE9.
In the pic above I created two pinned sites, one is Ars Technica and the other is AZ. If you look at the Menu bar of those browser windows you'll notice that each has its own respective favicon displayed in the left corner and that the navigation buttons colors have changed automatically to match the color of the site. This helps the browser blend in more naturally with the content of the site. Your focus is on the site and not the browser bar.
Also you'll notice if you look at the taskbar that Ars Technica has built-in support for jump lists for it's site when it's pinned to the taskbar. On the jump lists are shortcuts to portions of the Ars site like the forums, "one Microsoft way" which is where all MS stories are, news, features, and subscribe.
Pinned sites works by grabbing a tab from IE9 and dragging it to the taskbar. That site then gets its own icon on the taskbar and if supported by the site it can have jump lists. Pinning allows you to save a site to the taskbar and now if I want to go to AZ it has it's own icon on the taskbar and I can click it and it launches in IE9.
In the pic above I created two pinned sites, one is Ars Technica and the other is AZ. If you look at the Menu bar of those browser windows you'll notice that each has its own respective favicon displayed in the left corner and that the navigation buttons colors have changed automatically to match the color of the site. This helps the browser blend in more naturally with the content of the site. Your focus is on the site and not the browser bar.
Also you'll notice if you look at the taskbar that Ars Technica has built-in support for jump lists for it's site when it's pinned to the taskbar. On the jump lists are shortcuts to portions of the Ars site like the forums, "one Microsoft way" which is where all MS stories are, news, features, and subscribe.
Last edited by #1 STUNNA; 09-15-2010 at 01:11 PM.
09-15-2010, 04:08 PM
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So... :devilgrin
It finally has a download manager that I have as a plugin for FF for several years...
It allows me to, wait for it, ....... BOOKMARK a web site and plug that bookmark into the task bar? Whoa. Revolutionary.
Having the inter-site link in the taskbar bookmark is kinda cool, but come on...
This stuff just does not seem all that revolutionary...
It finally has a download manager that I have as a plugin for FF for several years...
It allows me to, wait for it, ....... BOOKMARK a web site and plug that bookmark into the task bar? Whoa. Revolutionary.
Having the inter-site link in the taskbar bookmark is kinda cool, but come on...
This stuff just does not seem all that revolutionary...
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09-15-2010, 04:29 PM
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Yeah most of it is catch up but allowing websites to enable jump lists is pretty cool. It gives web apps the similar capabilities of windows apps.
Oh and IE 9 is faster and more secure than Firefox. You now use the slowest and most insecure browser out there aka IE 6. Everyone is laughing at you..... FF doesn't even support HTML 5 h.264 video, even IE 9 does that.
Oh and IE 9 is faster and more secure than Firefox. You now use the slowest and most insecure browser out there aka IE 6. Everyone is laughing at you..... FF doesn't even support HTML 5 h.264 video, even IE 9 does that.
09-15-2010, 04:43 PM
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Funny, all these shortcomings are things I have yet to EVER experience.
Not once have I said "aw jeez, this site has XYZ and Firefox can't handle that...
"
Nor has my browser ever looked me in the face and confessed to me that I have been sending Nigerian Spam for weeks without knowing it...
Not once have I said "aw jeez, this site has XYZ and Firefox can't handle that...
"Nor has my browser ever looked me in the face and confessed to me that I have been sending Nigerian Spam for weeks without knowing it...
09-15-2010, 04:57 PM
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ignorance is bliss....
09-15-2010, 05:08 PM
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Nope, this will never work on XP. It has lots of new features that take advantage of all the changes in Vista/7 that XP just doesn't support. Mainly hardware accelerated graphics, text and images. IE8 will be the last version for XP, yet another reason to ditch XP
09-15-2010, 05:15 PM
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dang oh well.
i only use XP on my work laptop. its the only OS I haven't been able to hourglass yet with a dozen things open. Vista definitely wasn't cutting it, and 7 is still being stabilized in our enterprise, so i really dont feel like switching until they can guarantee all the tools still work.
still a linux whore @ home though...although most of my away from work browsing is now on droid
i only use XP on my work laptop. its the only OS I haven't been able to hourglass yet with a dozen things open. Vista definitely wasn't cutting it, and 7 is still being stabilized in our enterprise, so i really dont feel like switching until they can guarantee all the tools still work.
still a linux whore @ home though...although most of my away from work browsing is now on droid