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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 10:40 PM
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Hard Drive Recovery Question

Well ive been working for days straight on outlines for school, and my hard drive unexpectedly just completely crashed and died today.

I have a dell, i turn on the machine, it doesnt load at all and then comes up with an internall hard drive failure, i run he diagnostics and get code error 2000-0164. ends up to be a hard drive read failure.

Anyways is there any chance i could recover the files if i put the hard drive in a 2.5 inch enclosure and try to run it as an external hard drive?

The hard drive makes basically like no noise now when i try to boot up. I heard to put it in the freezer, so i did that and it didnt work lol.

Help? im devstated losing days worth of work with finals coming up
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 10:45 PM
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ehhhh.. bad idea to put it in the freezer, you mightve just completely killed it right there.



what brand HD is it.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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seagate 7200rpm 160gb
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Damn, I'd say :ibstogie: but he got teh ban for a month. Actually putting it in a freezer isn't a bad idea, but I here you've got to do it the right way. Stogie or Whiskers said you need one of the desilicate(sp?) bags to soak up the moisture. Basically you put the HD in a ziplock bag with one of the desilicate bags and IDK what else.

Do you have a backup? This is why you backup.

Try connecting the drive to another computer and accessing it as an external drive.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna
Damn, I'd say :ibstogie: but he got teh ban for a month. Actually putting it in a freezer isn't a bad idea, but I here you've got to do it the right way. Stogie or Whiskers said you need one of the desilicate(sp?) bags to soak up the moisture. Basically you put the HD in a ziplock bag with one of the desilicate bags and IDK what else.

Do you have a backup? This is why you backup.

Try connecting the drive to another computer and accessing it as an external drive.
problem is i dont have a 2.5inch enclosure to put it in to run. it seems like the hard drive isnt even spinning so i dont know how much use thatll be.
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 11:29 PM
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You don't need an enclosure, just make sure it doesn't touch anything it shouldn't. You can, since it's temporary, just wrap with something (like cloth, or paper), and use a rubber band or tape to hold the paper on till you are done.

If it's corrupt, but runnable, you can extract things via sector scanning. If the drive isn't spinning, then that's a lot more trouble.


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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko
You don't need an enclosure, just make sure it doesn't touch anything it shouldn't. You can, since it's temporary, just wrap with something (like cloth, or paper), and use a rubber band or tape to hold the paper on till you are done.

If it's corrupt, but runnable, you can extract things via sector scanning. If the drive isn't spinning, then that's a lot more trouble.


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it doesnt seem to be spinning and thats why the computer wont boot up. the dell error code means it has a read failure. i need the enclosure because i need some type of power supply and ribbon cable to try and run it..
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Old Apr 9, 2009 | 11:52 PM
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do you feel any vibrations from the hard drive spinning when you turn the PC on?
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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check the firmware, you might have fallen under the bad firmwares in seagate hard drives issue.

i still need to call up seagate to get them to let me send it to i365 (or whatever its called) for free data recovery.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna
do you feel any vibrations from the hard drive spinning when you turn the PC on?
i dont feel vibrations..when i turn the pc on..i hear a sound not a ticking noise, just like air or a fan from the hard drive. as it tries to boot for like 2-3 seconds if i put my ear real close i hear a small amount of ticking as if it like tries to do something, then immediately no more ticking and just air and the fan.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 12:11 AM
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can you feel any gyroscopic type movments or whatever, it so then its spinning.


its like that one toy where you pull the cord and it spins like crazy and if you try to move it in your hand, its kinda funny feeling (dunno if this makes sense)
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
can you feel any gyroscopic type movments or whatever, it so then its spinning.


its like that one toy where you pull the cord and it spins like crazy and if you try to move it in your hand, its kinda funny feeling (dunno if this makes sense)
Hah, you talking about the powerball gyroscope?
I have one of those, kinda fun.

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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ChodTheWacko
Hah, you talking about the powerball gyroscope?
I have one of those, kinda fun.

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yea those things.




my 500GB seagate HD feels just like one of those.


it feels like i could do this with my HD.





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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 01:17 AM
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yeah I've got that sensation too with my external 3.5in HD but I've never felt that with a 2.5 while it was in a laptop.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 01:18 AM
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yea maybe the 2.5" platters are too small
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:36 AM
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If it is not spinning at all, give it a whack while it is off. I haven't seen a drive with stiction in over 10 years but anything is possible.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by #1 Stunna
Damn, I'd say :ibstogie: but he got teh ban for a month. Actually putting it in a freezer isn't a bad idea, but I here you've got to do it the right way. Stogie or Whiskers said you need one of the desilicate(sp?) bags to soak up the moisture. Basically you put the HD in a ziplock bag with one of the desilicate bags and IDK what else.

Do you have a backup? This is why you backup.

Try connecting the drive to another computer and accessing it as an external drive.
Pretty sure he's only gone for 7 days.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:37 PM
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I would buy one of those connectors that allow you to hook up the drive outside of a computer without having to actually buy an enclosure. This is what I'm talking about:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812119152

That way you can hook it up to a friends computer and see if you can get to your files, or simply get your computer up and running with a new hard drive, then use this same adapter to transfer the files back onto your computer, assuming that of course that works.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:47 PM
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WTF did Stogie get banned for? (PM me)
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 03:49 PM
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Sly Raskals advice is prob best. It doesn't sound like youre going to be able to get that drive up and running again. You may be able to still recover the data from it, but you will need another computer and the proper cable to do that.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by STL+3.0CL
WTF did Stogie get banned for? (PM me)
Stogies was banned?
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 05:20 PM
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Damn sounds like you put hours of work onto the HD. If you're desperate, consider taking the HD to Best Buy, they were able to extract info off my crapped out WD external HD (which was my backup for my Optiplex).

Backing up the backup HD, WTF?
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 06:22 PM
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It's a seagate hard drive. like I said they are having firmware issues with their hard drives. Check if the firmware falls under the effected drives. If it is and it's still under warranty call up seagate they will recover the data and send you back a working drive with you data intact like nothing happened.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 06:28 PM
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If you go into the bios does the HD show up at all there?


Btw if it's the firmware issue what is happening is that during a power cycle the drive gets stuck in a constant read cycle and has no way to get out of it. Aside from hacking into the firmware. It's something like that.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 07:55 PM
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If it is recognized by the BIOS and spins, try SpinRite.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:32 PM
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the seagate is a momentus, so its not covered...tried the external drive thing, doesnt work. the hard drive definitely doesnt spin.
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Old Apr 10, 2009 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mizouse
It's a seagate hard drive. like I said they are having firmware issues with their hard drives. Check if the firmware falls under the effected drives. If it is and it's still under warranty call up seagate they will recover the data and send you back a working drive with you data intact like nothing happened.
They were having issues with their barracuda desktop drives IIRC.
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