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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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DVD +R -R ???? What is this crap???

I'm gonna be copying our wedding dvd's to send to family and friends.

However I'm confused to the different formats of DVD's there are out there.

Can someone give me a quick rundown of the difference between +R and -R and which is better (if one is)?
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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A DVD+R is a writable optical disc with 4.7 GB (4.38 GiB) of storage capacity (interpreted as \approx 4.7\cdot10^9, actually 2295104 sectors of 2048 bytes each). The format was developed by a coalition of corporations, known as the DVD+RW Alliance, in mid 2002. Since the DVD+R format is a competing format to the DVD-R format, which is developed by the DVD Forum, it has not been approved by the DVD Forum, which claims that the DVD+R format is not an official DVD format.

In October of 2003, it was demonstrated that double layer technology could be used with a DVD+R disc to nearly double the capacity to 8.5 GB per disc. Manufacturers have incorporated this technology into commercial devices since mid-2004 (see DVD+R DL).

Unlike DVD+RW discs, DVD+R discs can only be written to once. Because of this, DVD+R discs are suited to applications such as nonvolatile data storage, audio, or video.

The DVD+R format is divergent from the DVD-R format. Hybrid drives that can handle both, often labeled "DVD±RW", are very popular since there is not yet a single standard for recordable DVDs. There are a number of significant technical differences between the dash and plus formats, and although most consumers would not notice the difference, the plus format is considered by some to be better engineered.

Like other plus media, it is possible to use bitsetting to increase the compatibility of DVD+R media.

As of 2005, the market for recordable DVD technology shows little sign of settling down in favor of either the plus or dash formats, which is mostly the result of the increasing numbers of dual-format devices that can record to both formats; it has become very difficult to find new devices that can only record to one of the formats.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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From what I understand, a DVD player is more likely to be able to play a -R than a +R. I've only used +R and have had no problems getting them to run in anyones player that I know.

As stated above, I don't think there will ever be double layer -R disk. Double layer +R discs are expensive. I have only used single layer.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Guess I'll just go with DVD +R. Should be alright.


I can get a spindle of 100 TDK dvd +r discs on buy.com for $40 or Verbatim 100disc spindle for $58

I'll probably end up going with the verbatim discs.



Thanx juice
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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I bought a 50 pack of Staples DVD +R for $13 from Staples. I didn't even need them but damn that was cheap. I've used them before and they are fine.

In fact, I can't believe they were $13. But I got them through www.deals2buy.com free shipping too.

EDIT: they were $13, not $8.

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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by doopstr
From what I understand, a DVD player is more likely to be able to play a -R than a +R. I've only used +R and have had no problems getting them to run in anyones player that I know.

As stated above, I don't think there will ever be double layer -R disk. Double layer +R discs are expensive. I have only used single layer.

now you got me thinkin again

damn you!

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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JesusJuice
A DVD+R is a writable optical disc with 4.7 GB (4.38 GiB) of storage capacity (interpreted as \approx 4.7\cdot10^9, actually 2295104 sectors of 2048 bytes each). The format was developed by a coalition of corporations, known as the DVD+RW Alliance, in mid 2002. Since the DVD+R format is a competing format to the DVD-R format, which is developed by the DVD Forum, it has not been approved by the DVD Forum, which claims that the DVD+R format is not an official DVD format.

In October of 2003, it was demonstrated that double layer technology could be used with a DVD+R disc to nearly double the capacity to 8.5 GB per disc. Manufacturers have incorporated this technology into commercial devices since mid-2004 (see DVD+R DL).

Unlike DVD+RW discs, DVD+R discs can only be written to once. Because of this, DVD+R discs are suited to applications such as nonvolatile data storage, audio, or video.

The DVD+R format is divergent from the DVD-R format. Hybrid drives that can handle both, often labeled "DVD±RW", are very popular since there is not yet a single standard for recordable DVDs. There are a number of significant technical differences between the dash and plus formats, and although most consumers would not notice the difference, the plus format is considered by some to be better engineered.

Like other plus media, it is possible to use bitsetting to increase the compatibility of DVD+R media.

As of 2005, the market for recordable DVD technology shows little sign of settling down in favor of either the plus or dash formats, which is mostly the result of the increasing numbers of dual-format devices that can record to both formats; it has become very difficult to find new devices that can only record to one of the formats.
at least credit your source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_plus_R
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 05:34 PM
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These are the bastards who created the Plus R and RW formats:

http://www.dvdrw.com/alliance/history.htm

Actually the format is not approved by the DVD Forum, who created the DVD-R format.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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So I ended up going to Fry's today and got lucky.

They had retagged their TDK DVD -R 100 Spindles for just $50!!! Originally they were $70.

So I ended up getting 2 of them. I thought, "not bad, $0.50 per DVD"

Then I got home I looked it up on google and found them on Amazon for $40/spindle!

So tomorrow I gotta go back to Fry's return those, because I ordered them from Amazon tonight.


Still not bad though, Previously I was lookin at spending $69.99/spindle. Instead I spent $80 for 2 spindles.

Now I can spend the extra money on DVD Cases and Labels.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slyraskal
So I ended up going to Fry's today and got lucky.

They had retagged their TDK DVD -R 100 Spindles for just $50!!! Originally they were $70.

So I ended up getting 2 of them. I thought, "not bad, $0.50 per DVD"

Then I got home I looked it up on google and found them on Amazon for $40/spindle!

So tomorrow I gotta go back to Fry's return those, because I ordered them from Amazon tonight.


Still not bad though, Previously I was lookin at spending $69.99/spindle. Instead I spent $80 for 2 spindles.

Now I can spend the extra money on DVD Cases and Labels.

Costco has them for $42/hundred if you don't want to bother with shipping from Amazon.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mt6forlife
Costco has them for $42/hundred if you don't want to bother with shipping from Amazon.
Free shipping from amazon > long lines at costco
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by slyraskal
Free shipping from amazon > long lines at costco
Going when its not busy > waiting days for DVDs
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mt6forlife
Going when its not busy > waiting days for DVDs
Going when it's not busy = time when I'm at work || being patient and not spending gas or time to drive to the nearest Costco and get them anyways.






Besides: 'm using the DVD's to make copies of my wedding. And next thursday I'm having surgery done, so it doesn't mattter if I get the dvd's on time, because I can only start copying my wedding dvd's a few days after the operation because I'll be so out of it after the operation.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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Staples has a sale for Sony DVD-R. 50 pack for $14.99. I thoght it was a good deal so I jumped on it. I'm confused about buring though, is there a way I can copy movies. When I put movie DVD's in my comp, the disc are much larger in capacity than the 4.7 gigs.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JJ4Short
A DVD+R is a writable optical disc with 4.7 GB (4.38 GiB) of storage capacity (interpreted as \approx 4.7\cdot10^9, actually 2295104 sectors of 2048 bytes each). The format was developed by a coalition of corporations, known as the DVD+RW Alliance, in mid 2002. Since the DVD+R format is a competing format to the DVD-R format, which is developed by the DVD Forum, it has not been approved by the DVD Forum, which claims that the DVD+R format is not an official DVD format.

In October of 2003, it was demonstrated that double layer technology could be used with a DVD+R disc to nearly double the capacity to 8.5 GB per disc. Manufacturers have incorporated this technology into commercial devices since mid-2004 (see DVD+R DL).

Unlike DVD+RW discs, DVD+R discs can only be written to once. Because of this, DVD+R discs are suited to applications such as nonvolatile data storage, audio, or video.

The DVD+R format is divergent from the DVD-R format. Hybrid drives that can handle both, often labeled "DVD±RW", are very popular since there is not yet a single standard for recordable DVDs. There are a number of significant technical differences between the dash and plus formats, and although most consumers would not notice the difference, the plus format is considered by some to be better engineered.

Like other plus media, it is possible to use bitsetting to increase the compatibility of DVD+R media.

As of 2005, the market for recordable DVD technology shows little sign of settling down in favor of either the plus or dash formats, which is mostly the result of the increasing numbers of dual-format devices that can record to both formats; it has become very difficult to find new devices that can only record to one of the formats.
Doesn't answer the questions though. What's the difference, & why is one better then the other?
I use both disks & DL's & see no difference in any of them.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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good work. I thought he freestyled that answer.

Originally Posted by zeroday
at least credit your source
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_plus_R
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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I don't believe you can buy dual layer DVD-R discs.
So that is another difference.
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