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Droid X
I'm now stumped between an iPhone and the Droid X...
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/e...oid-x-preview/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/15/e...oid-x-preview/
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I can see that huge size being great because of the big ass screen that comes with it. But yeah, I can also see it being really cumbersome. Still, my brother's experiences with Motorola phones has sworn me off getting any Motorola until they start improving them. Funny thing is he recently got a Motorola Droid and surprise! the call quality sucks ass when I'm talking to him and the phone is woefully slow.
Maybe he just has crap luck with Motorola and its not just Motorola.
Maybe he just has crap luck with Motorola and its not just Motorola.
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Wow that's waaay to big. I have the Moto droid and I absolutely LOVE it. I had the Droid Eris for a little while but the battery life BLEW. I've always had BB's, i.e the Tour, Storm 2 etc and all I can say is.. RIM needs to step their game up
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I hate moto due to past experiences with razr Plus the flipback is supposedly not that good. My friend loves his Tmo droid so I'd consider it. I think I'd prefer the evo if you had carrier choices. Is the x coming to AT&T?
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I have the 3G Iphone (4G waiting for me at home) and the Moto driod (work phone I dont pay for) and as much as people nit pick at the Iphone, I only use the droid to tether to my laptop because the speed is better and more reliable and the navigation since the turn by turn is included. The Droid always seems to fail on something, its slowing to navigate then the iphone and not user friendly...
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The Droid X is nice but its locked down. The devs are quite pissed about it. They're trying to get a petition started to make Motorola remove the lock.
There's an article running around saying the phone will self-destruct if you try to install custom ROMs? Not sure how valid that is but I'm sure its turning off a lot of custom ROM modders due to the potential self-destruction of the phone should they mess with it:
Source: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/...try-to-mod-it/
I can understand Motorola's decision about this though as this is a business phone and I doubt, they'd want to hear about custom ROMs messing up their image in the business world. It goes both way I guess.
With that said, the phone is still top notch. Unless, you're into customizing the phone, flashing custom ROMs and trying out new Android builds before Motorola can push them out, then its a non-issue (the majority of users). I still think they'll be able to root it at the minimum.
There's an article running around saying the phone will self-destruct if you try to install custom ROMs? Not sure how valid that is but I'm sure its turning off a lot of custom ROM modders due to the potential self-destruction of the phone should they mess with it:
If the eFuse failes to verify this information then the eFuse receives a command to “blow the fuse” or “trip the fuse”. This results in the booting process becoming corrupted and resulting in a permanent bricking of the Phone. This FailSafe is activated anytime the bootloader is tampered with or any of the above three parts of the phone has been tampered with.
Source: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/...try-to-mod-it/
I can understand Motorola's decision about this though as this is a business phone and I doubt, they'd want to hear about custom ROMs messing up their image in the business world. It goes both way I guess.
With that said, the phone is still top notch. Unless, you're into customizing the phone, flashing custom ROMs and trying out new Android builds before Motorola can push them out, then its a non-issue (the majority of users). I still think they'll be able to root it at the minimum.
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Well now they're saying it won't self-destruct:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...bricked-phone/
lol. guess we'll find out soon enough. either way, the bootloader is still locked down.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010/...bricked-phone/
lol. guess we'll find out soon enough. either way, the bootloader is still locked down.
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I don't see the locked bootloader being a problem. If one can still root, they will have access to all the unsigned software that rooted android devices can use. I'm not a fan of custom roms. Any time i've installed a custom rom on an android phone, my battery life has gone to hell. Loading roms was important for windows mobile, but not so much on the android front. For me at least.
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The Droid X is nice but its locked down. The devs are quite pissed about it. They're trying to get a petition started to make Motorola remove the lock.
There's an article running around saying the phone will self-destruct if you try to install custom ROMs? Not sure how valid that is but I'm sure its turning off a lot of custom ROM modders due to the potential self-destruction of the phone should they mess with it:
Source: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/...try-to-mod-it/
I can understand Motorola's decision about this though as this is a business phone and I doubt, they'd want to hear about custom ROMs messing up their image in the business world. It goes both way I guess.
With that said, the phone is still top notch. Unless, you're into customizing the phone, flashing custom ROMs and trying out new Android builds before Motorola can push them out, then its a non-issue (the majority of users). I still think they'll be able to root it at the minimum.
There's an article running around saying the phone will self-destruct if you try to install custom ROMs? Not sure how valid that is but I'm sure its turning off a lot of custom ROM modders due to the potential self-destruction of the phone should they mess with it:
Source: http://www.mobilecrunch.com/2010/07/...try-to-mod-it/
I can understand Motorola's decision about this though as this is a business phone and I doubt, they'd want to hear about custom ROMs messing up their image in the business world. It goes both way I guess.
With that said, the phone is still top notch. Unless, you're into customizing the phone, flashing custom ROMs and trying out new Android builds before Motorola can push them out, then its a non-issue (the majority of users). I still think they'll be able to root it at the minimum.
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Unfortunately Google doesn't have much control in what the manufacturers decide to do with their OS. The manufacturers are free to change everything, even the default search engine to Bing like they're supposedly doing for the upcoming Samsung Fascinate if they wanted to. Google is really only concerned about making money off people using their search engine when it comes to Android. The open source nature of Android is attractive to manufacturers because it costs them very little to modify and maintain Google's code and do whatever they want with it.
I don't think Motorola is gonna change their stance either seeing that the phone is sold out everywhere. To them, this phone is a success, even with the locked bootloader. People need to stop buying the phone before Motorola changes their decision which probably isn't going to happen. The next best option is for the hackers to unlock it which might take a while seeing they still haven't unlocked the one in the Milestone and that phone has been out for six months now.
On the plus side, the phone can still be rooted. So you can install apps that require root access. The only thing you can't really do with the phone is install custom ROMs. Everything is up to Motorola to now to deliver the updates on time. If they don't I guess that could make or break their image in the cell phone market.
I don't think Motorola is gonna change their stance either seeing that the phone is sold out everywhere. To them, this phone is a success, even with the locked bootloader. People need to stop buying the phone before Motorola changes their decision which probably isn't going to happen. The next best option is for the hackers to unlock it which might take a while seeing they still haven't unlocked the one in the Milestone and that phone has been out for six months now.
On the plus side, the phone can still be rooted. So you can install apps that require root access. The only thing you can't really do with the phone is install custom ROMs. Everything is up to Motorola to now to deliver the updates on time. If they don't I guess that could make or break their image in the cell phone market.
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If you want a keyboard you could wait for the Droid 2. It will have the same specs as the Droid X minus the 4.3" screen. They're also saying its supposed to ship with Froyo.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/20/droi...-2-apparently/
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You should try it out in the stores. Either way, you'll have to wait as the phone is already sold out everywhere. The next batch is supposed to come in on the 27th. Personally, I'm not a fan of Motoblur. However, its easily replaceable and you don't even need to root the device.
If you want a keyboard you could wait for the Droid 2. It will have the same specs as the Droid X minus the 4.3" screen. They're also saying its supposed to ship with Froyo.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/20/droi...-2-apparently/
If you want a keyboard you could wait for the Droid 2. It will have the same specs as the Droid X minus the 4.3" screen. They're also saying its supposed to ship with Froyo.
http://phandroid.com/2010/07/20/droi...-2-apparently/
As for Froyo, all three of Verizon's Droids (Incredible, X, and Droid 2) should have it by the end of next month if the rumors are correct...
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and us Droid X owners have root...
http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-x-root-achieved
http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-x-root-achieved
yeah that was quick. A co worker just bought his yesterday through dell for $179 and wanted to use all the apps i have. But most require a root and he doesnt want to. 
what a waste of a good phone 
what a waste of a good phone
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Ok checked one of these out yesterday while with the kids. Unfortunately I couldn't get much time on it. Now owning an iPhone 3GS I prefer holding the iPhone as the Droid X is very spartan compared it to it in how it feels and buttons. Plus I had to push on the screen a little harder. The buttons felt like they were going to come off maybe because it was the demo. The phone is freaking huge and the screen gigantic but I didn't mind the phone size. It loaded You Tube pretty quickly but I couldn't find any working HQ HD vids to see the quality. Not sure if it was a restriction by the store or what. The active desktops is a cool feature but knowing me to save battery I'd probably just stick with a pic of the family. Obviously I'd have to dive deeper into it for days as I went into the app store for 2 seconds and customize it to be fast and user friendly similar to my iPhone. I hope ATT offers a similar size powerful phone but feels a little less cheap in a year when my contract runs out for me to consider.
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Do you know if the demo unit you played with had Froyo on it? If that was Eclair, imagine the phone a little bit faster and more responsive. It was probably not as responsive due to the fact that a lot of people opened up random apps and it was closing them to free up RAM space. Should be negligible performance hits though in real use.
The YouTube HQ usually is automatically turned on if you're connected to WiFi and I think 3G? I have to double check on the 3G. Either way, if you hit the Menu button while playing the video it should have given you extra options to watch it in HQ or normal quality.
As far as the active wallpapers, contrary to popular belief, most actually don't use that much battery at all. Even the complex ones like the Live Mario Wallpaper or anything that renders 3D in the background you're probably still wasting only a small amount. Why? Simple, the backgrounds pause when the screen is off or when you're away from the home screen. When you open the apps drawer as well, the wallpaper pauses. If you were staring at the home screen the whole day, then thats another issue. lol. The Droid X also has one of the better battery lifes compared to other Android phones:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/20050...t_feature.html
The YouTube HQ usually is automatically turned on if you're connected to WiFi and I think 3G? I have to double check on the 3G. Either way, if you hit the Menu button while playing the video it should have given you extra options to watch it in HQ or normal quality.
As far as the active wallpapers, contrary to popular belief, most actually don't use that much battery at all. Even the complex ones like the Live Mario Wallpaper or anything that renders 3D in the background you're probably still wasting only a small amount. Why? Simple, the backgrounds pause when the screen is off or when you're away from the home screen. When you open the apps drawer as well, the wallpaper pauses. If you were staring at the home screen the whole day, then thats another issue. lol. The Droid X also has one of the better battery lifes compared to other Android phones:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/20050...t_feature.html
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I forgot to check which OS it was running. He said he got it on 7/15 so very likely Eclair. No problem with the speed that I can recall. I had more issues with the hardwares as I'm sure the You Tube thing was something freakish.
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Android Phones Outsell iPhone, BlackBerry In Q2, NPD Reports
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderd...d=yahoobarrons
http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderd...d=yahoobarrons
Smart phones based on the Google (GOOG) Android OS took 33% of the U.S. smart phone market in the second quarter, research firm NPD said today, ahead up from 28% in Q1. Android wrested the top spot away from Research In Motion (RIMM), which had 28% of the market, down from 36% in Q1. Apple (AAPL) had 22% of the market in Q2, up a point from 21% in Q1.
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If it does, they have a pretty big hill to battle. They're about to get banned by the UAE with Saudi Arabia to follow.
http://mashable.com/2010/08/01/blackberry-banned/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10830485
The Torch would've been a good phone a year ago. Now, they're facing the challenge of bigger screened phones and faster processors. The Torch will only have a 624 MHz processor and it froze a few times when Engadget played with it. It only has a 3.2 inch screen and thats pretty much a low end Android device these days. We'll see though, maybe Blackberry can optimize the UI a little more and squeeze out every performance out of the 624 MHz but it'll be tough.
http://mashable.com/2010/08/01/blackberry-banned/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10830485
The Torch would've been a good phone a year ago. Now, they're facing the challenge of bigger screened phones and faster processors. The Torch will only have a 624 MHz processor and it froze a few times when Engadget played with it. It only has a 3.2 inch screen and thats pretty much a low end Android device these days. We'll see though, maybe Blackberry can optimize the UI a little more and squeeze out every performance out of the 624 MHz but it'll be tough.
