Business internet Q
Business internet Q
Ok, so we currently have 6 PC's all running TS to a non-local server, and of course it runs slow as hell because it's running over 1 DSL line.
We have 7 phone lines currently routed to our office.....IF we were to get 3DSL lines, and split those between the 6 of us, there shouldn't be any problems in speeds, right?
We have 7 phone lines currently routed to our office.....IF we were to get 3DSL lines, and split those between the 6 of us, there shouldn't be any problems in speeds, right?
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Originally Posted by Beelzebub
That would be very confusing to set up with out a load balancing switch.
as your connection wouldn't know which path to take out to the internet as you can only have 1 gateway.
as your connection wouldn't know which path to take out to the internet as you can only have 1 gateway.
Do you think some of the problem is upload speed? You may be better off with a symmetric connection.
We use remote desktop a ton at work and we found that a T1 works better for us. It is really still DSL, it is just 1.5 up and down. The 1.5 down for us is fine. It's not like we are downloading porn torrents.
We use remote desktop a ton at work and we found that a T1 works better for us. It is really still DSL, it is just 1.5 up and down. The 1.5 down for us is fine. It's not like we are downloading porn torrents.
Originally Posted by buttplug
Why can we only have 1 gateway? If each DSL modem is setup on a separate phone line?
Originally Posted by brizey
You have to tell your computer what IP address to send traffic that is not local (internet). It is usually your router's IP address, and most basic routers only have one WAN uplink.
And even so, since they 're all on separate phone lines, how is it a problem?
The problem is that you now have 3 static IP's for your internet connection and the machines connecting can only have 1 gateway.
If you keep them seperate, it isn't a problem but if you want them to talk to each other then you have to have a load balancer, which would have only 1 IP visable to you but 3 on the outside.
If you keep them seperate, it isn't a problem but if you want them to talk to each other then you have to have a load balancer, which would have only 1 IP visable to you but 3 on the outside.
Originally Posted by buttplug
Each DSL modem is going to have a static IP.....
And even so, since they 're all on separate phone lines, how is it a problem?
And even so, since they 're all on separate phone lines, how is it a problem?
If you have three routers, one for each modem (for example, if the router is built into the modem), then you will have three separate local ip networks, one for each router. You can bridge them together, but it is work and more EQ. Another option is to use a managed switch that can load balance between the gateways (effectively, it is a sort of bridge).
All of this is pretty damn complicated for a six computer network.
The term you are looking for is 'dsl bonding'
See...
http://digg.com/tech_news/How_To_Bon...s_Screenshots)
Also Netopia used to have some bonding products. Not sure if they do anymore - it never really took hold.
See...
http://digg.com/tech_news/How_To_Bon...s_Screenshots)
Also Netopia used to have some bonding products. Not sure if they do anymore - it never really took hold.
You need a load balancing switch/firewall.
Otherwise, put each DSL line on a separate switch and only connect two computers to that switch. In that case, you will need a DSL Modem for each line, but the six computers will no longer be on the same network or able to see each other. All you will have is Internet Connection Sharing (basically).
Otherwise, put each DSL line on a separate switch and only connect two computers to that switch. In that case, you will need a DSL Modem for each line, but the six computers will no longer be on the same network or able to see each other. All you will have is Internet Connection Sharing (basically).
Originally Posted by buttplug
It's not important that the PC's see each other. The only concern is that the bandwidth is increased.
When you speak of TS, are you connecting to a Windows Terminal Server via Remote Desktop Connection?
If so, have you tried bumping down the session quality? Under Performance, uncheck everything except "bitmap caching". Also, under Display, bump the color depth down to 256 colors. Also, I would turn off anything they don't need under Local Resources. I've been able to do RDC over dialup and it wasn't bad. Maybe this would make things more bearable?
Originally Posted by thunder04
If that's the case, then what you want to do will work without any problem. :-)
When you speak of TS, are you connecting to a Windows Terminal Server via Remote Desktop Connection?
If so, have you tried bumping down the session quality? Under Performance, uncheck everything except "bitmap caching". Also, under Display, bump the color depth down to 256 colors. Also, I would turn off anything they don't need under Local Resources. I've been able to do RDC over dialup and it wasn't bad. Maybe this would make things more bearable?
When you speak of TS, are you connecting to a Windows Terminal Server via Remote Desktop Connection?
If so, have you tried bumping down the session quality? Under Performance, uncheck everything except "bitmap caching". Also, under Display, bump the color depth down to 256 colors. Also, I would turn off anything they don't need under Local Resources. I've been able to do RDC over dialup and it wasn't bad. Maybe this would make things more bearable?

6 users on remote desktop + internet (necessary for bus) + 1 DSL line =
Is your office working in a converted Victorian or area where a T-1 can't get installed? Your office needs more than just DSL.
OK, that might be obvious...
OK, that might be obvious...
Last edited by Will Y.; Apr 10, 2008 at 12:07 PM.
Originally Posted by Will Y.
Is your office working in a converted Victorian or area where a T-1 can't get installed? Your office needs more than just DSL.
I'm working with some major hurdles here, man
Give everyone their own DSL line and use sneakernet for file transfer....
Or use a VPN client and put everyone on the same VPN with their own DSL lines...
And eat some bacon sammiches!
Or use a VPN client and put everyone on the same VPN with their own DSL lines...
And eat some bacon sammiches!
Originally Posted by stogie1020
Give everyone their own DSL line and use sneakernet for file transfer....
Or use a VPN client and put everyone on the same VPN with their own DSL lines...
And eat some bacon sammiches!
Or use a VPN client and put everyone on the same VPN with their own DSL lines...
And eat some bacon sammiches!

It sucks....there's not even any bacon in the building!!!
Get an FTP Server....and use it to transfer your files on its own DSL Line...that way your not bogging down the usual network....and then put the user's on 1 DSL line....and find a 16gb flash drive...hire someone to upload the info to the drive then put it on the FTP server to send out....aka a tech...lol....i love my job...i really do...
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