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Here's one more comparison of the HTC Evo vs. the Samsung:
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=17125 The Samsung Galaxy S with a 45 nm Hummingbird beating for a heart looks to be the most powerful ARM SoC available in the near future, however, the 45 nm Snapdragons and the Cortex-A9 TI OMAP 4 series will almost certainly reclaim that title later this year and onwards into 2011. The EVO 4G, while having an impressive set of specifications, still runs a 65 nm chip that is less power efficient and pales in terms of graphics performance when compared to the Galaxy S. If you happen to live under Sprint’s WiMAX umbrella and can’t resist a 4.3-inch screen, the EVO 4G may be a hard opportunity to resist. But if you’re looking for the better performer and display with unsurpassed quality, a Samsung Galaxy S looks like the choice to make assuming it lands on a carrier that works for you. AT&T is likely, signs point to T-Mobile as well, and it’s speculated that it’ll eventually end up on all 4 major US carriers. Both phones are headed our way in “Summer 2010”. One thing is certain; it’s not going to be an easy wait! |
Oh yeah, Samsung will be releasing an Android Tablet soon as well that goes along with their Galaxy S line:
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1...laxytabbig.jpg http://www.samsunghub.com/2010/07/13...efore-october/ They look like giant Galaxy S. lol. But I would use this is as another reason why I don't think they'll abandon these phones too quickly. If they did, they're aiming to fail pretty hard. |
so gpu is the major difference for the two phones. When does the samsung galaxy s come out to sprint? I will have to be purchasing a phone for my son but i might as well purchase this phone and out right buy a cheap phone for him. Thanks for the info. As of right now cyanogen's release should be here in the next week or too. Reason i like this rom so much better than the other roms is that he writes the codes, while other just cook a piece by piece rom to get it to work. You can check out his work as it is happening for those who dont know much about Froyo.
Twitter: cyanogen Website: http://www.cyanogenmod.com Forum: http://forum.cyanogenmod.com Issue Tracker: http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmod/issues/list Wiki: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com GitHub: http://github.com/CyanogenMod |
Originally Posted by wrxyboy
(Post 12170978)
so gpu is the major difference for the two phones. When does the samsung galaxy s come out to sprint?
Release date hasn't been announced yet. I think they're saying August though cause the Fascinate is supposed to come in September to Verizon.
Originally Posted by wrxyboy
(Post 12170978)
Reason i like this rom so much better than the other roms is that he writes the codes, while other just cook a piece by piece rom to get it to work.
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interesting you brought up about samsung amoled. According to this two sites, samsung is part of the cause for a shortage of Evo's.
http://www.mobilitysite.com/2010/07/...ts-evo-4g-too/; http://phandroid.com/2010/07/12/dan-...-in-our-plans/ |
Originally Posted by wrxyboy
(Post 12171161)
interesting you brought up about samsung amoled. According to this two sites, samsung is part of the cause for a shortage of Evo's.
http://www.mobilitysite.com/2010/07/...ts-evo-4g-too/; http://phandroid.com/2010/07/12/dan-...-in-our-plans/ The HTC Evo shortages, on the other hand, are due HTC not being able to keep up with demand on the Novatel LCD screens. There's actually 2 screens out for HTC right now because they couldn't keep up with the original screens. I think the first earlier phones had a Novatel LCD screen whereas the newer builds have Epson LCD screens. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6ppoSLc3c |
Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
(Post 12171194)
That's weird. The HTC Evo doesn't use AMOLED. It uses a regular LCD. I think the author got confused with the HTC Incredible. Regardless, the HTC Incredible is on backorder due to the shortage of AMOLED screens. Samsung probably made a dick move and focused on their Super AMOLEDs for their Galaxy S and told HTC they don't have any AMOLEDs left. HTC has started using Sony LCDs in exchange for the HTC Incredible so there should be some differences in color reproduction in the new HTC Incredibles.
The HTC Evo shortages, on the other hand, are due HTC not being able to keep up with demand on the Novatel LCD screens. There's actually 2 screens out for HTC right now because they couldn't keep up with the original screens. I think the first earlier phones had a Novatel LCD screen whereas the newer builds have Epson LCD screens. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG6ppoSLc3c thanks!:thumbsup: |
Originally Posted by DarkSithCL
(Post 12173135)
my audio is da sux here @ work!!! could some one plz give me a summary of the vid... are the 2nd gen screens better or worse that the 1st gen?
thanks!:thumbsup: |
Originally Posted by wrxyboy
(Post 12173142)
Each screens have there strong points and weak points. One does whites better while the other does blacks better. But to be honest the only way you would really tell the difference is if you are comparing to Evo's side by side with different lcd screens. Im not to worried cause it will be out of sight and out of mind.
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Originally Posted by DarkSithCL
(Post 12173214)
Thanks alot broheim! :toocool:
I was hoping it wasn't a deal-killer! For the Epson screens (Newer screen): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763 For the Novatek screens (Older screen): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711964 Article on what they're trying to achieve: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/06/2...g-30fps-limit/ Of course, that shouldn't be a deal breaker, but according to HTC, the fps cap is there for the HDMI and that it was intentionally placed. Meaning it won't ever go beyond 30 fps even when its capable of doing so. So you might see some lag when swiping left and right in the home screen, for example, and during gaming because it has lesser cushion room when it starts to drop frames. Now, if you don't game, you might never notice it: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/0...e-restriction/ As far as moving from the AMOLED to the LCD in the Incredible, that might be a different story. AMOLED just have a better contrast and color saturation, uses less battery, but has crappy visibility in sunlight. LCD on the other hand, has better visibility in sunlight and is an older tech. Gonna have to wait and see what happens when the new batch of Incredibles come in. |
can you recommend a game to test the lcd. I know that cyanogen is working on a fix to up the 30fps.
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Originally Posted by wrxyboy
(Post 12173416)
can you recommend a game to test the lcd. I know they cyanogen is working on a fix to up the 30fps.
FPS2D http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...ps2d-AACA.aspx |
Here's mine for comparison's sake, after the 4th attempt:
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8131/devicen.png |
what screen capture app are you running. Also does it have a setting to upload to flickr since i have a pro account with them.
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Originally Posted by wrxyboy
(Post 12173565)
what screen capture app are you running. Also does it have a setting to upload to flickr since i have a pro account with them.
I use the ddms.bat file inside the Android SDK. Plug your phone in with the USB cable. Open up the folder where you extracted the SDK. Under the "Tools" folder, scroll down to a file called "ddms.bat". Double click it. (Note: It needs to have Java installed. In my case, I had to copy the whole Java folder into "C:\Program Files\" as I am using Windows 7 x64 and it installs the Java files in the x86 folder only for some reason.) 1. Click on your phone with your serial number "HTLXXXXXX" 2. Click on "Device" on the top 3. Screen Capture 4. Save the file anywhere. It saves all the screens in a png format. You can upload them on your flickr fine. For rooted devices: You can install "ShootMe" and shake the phone to save a screenshot. I believe it saves it on your SD Card. Haven't used this program but from what I read thats what it does. http://www.androlib.com/android.appl...ocal-zmxE.aspx Let's see some screens. :thumbsup: |
What up guys, been a few days. I just downloaded CyanogenMod 6 and this thing is a BEAST! After my apps download, I'm going to check on some speeds (Quadrant and Linpack scores)
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Sneak peek at Cyanogenmod 6 for the HTC Evo showing off the new bluetooth stack in Froyo. Pretty sick:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs2YkIQfsUg They're saying the alpha builds should be coming soon. |
^^^^ yeah i saw this earlier when he posted about it. Now i might have another excuse to buy a bluetooth mouse.
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Geeks! The whole lot of you! :tongue:
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Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
(Post 12174801)
Geeks! The whole lot of you! :tongue:
by the way, they have a froyo build for the aria now. its based on the mt3g slide build by eugene. its missing a few things still though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724823 |
This is so cool. I've always wanted to build a Car PC but how about Android instead?
HTC Droid Incredible TV-Out to my Range Rover Sport. This is the ultimate carputer ; replacing the built in OEM NAV using Google Android. Using the TV-Out, I connect to a GVIF adaptor that allows me to bypass my Car's built in OEM. Source: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/1...redible-video/ Gonna have to look into something like this but for 7" monitors... |
Thought I'd share this cool update with ADW.Launcher created by Anderwebs found in the market or on his website:
Anderweb's Website: http://jbthemes.com/anderweb/ Paper Theme: http://themes.piratemedia.tv/2010-07...tem-adw-theme/ Recently, he just added the ability to theme his launcher and Eliot Stocker created this awesome Paper Theme: Home Screen: http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/7379/device1a.png http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/728/devicerm.png http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/6798/device3sz.png App Drawer: http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/6604/device4h.png Its pretty cool home replacement and the best thing is about it is, you DON'T have to be rooted to try it out! ADW.Launcher also has a lot of cool features too like changing the amount of desktop screens. Number of icons per row on the desktop. (If you look, I have 5 icons per row, but you can do more if you have a bigger screen like the Evo.) You can resize the widgets. And a whole bunch of other cool features. The icons that are hand drawn were manually made by him and they're all functional. But if you have an app not in those icons he made then you just see your regular icon. Also, widgets haven't been modified but that would be cool if it came in the future updates. There's 4 themes so far and they're on his website to check out. |
Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
(Post 12173352)
Yeah. I don't think its noticeable for the EVO 4G as its moving from LCD to LCD. At least in that video they didn't look that much far off and I actually liked the newer screen. However, in terms of the 30 fps cap HTC placed on the screen, the ROM devs have only been successful in removing it on the newer, Epson, screens so far. Although, I believe they're almost able to uncap it on the old, Novatek (correction from my last post), screens:
For the Epson screens (Newer screen): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=719763 For the Novatek screens (Older screen): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=711964 Article on what they're trying to achieve: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/06/2...g-30fps-limit/ Of course, that shouldn't be a deal breaker, but according to HTC, the fps cap is there for the HDMI and that it was intentionally placed. Meaning it won't ever go beyond 30 fps even when its capable of doing so. So you might see some lag when swiping left and right in the home screen, for example, and during gaming because it has lesser cushion room when it starts to drop frames. Now, if you don't game, you might never notice it: http://www.androidguys.com/2010/07/0...e-restriction/ As far as moving from the AMOLED to the LCD in the Incredible, that might be a different story. AMOLED just have a better contrast and color saturation, uses less battery, but has crappy visibility in sunlight. LCD on the other hand, has better visibility in sunlight and is an older tech. Gonna have to wait and see what happens when the new batch of Incredibles come in. |
is there a way to test to see what lcd panel i have on my evo.
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Originally Posted by wrxyboy
(Post 12177342)
is there a way to test to see what lcd panel i have on my evo.
.002 = Novatek .003 = Epson |
Here's a good benchmark comparison of the Evo 4G, Nexus One, Droid X, and Samsung Captivate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRK2stnV3Wg Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/att-sa...icsgaming-test Note that the Nexus One is on Froyo hence the 5x increased Linpack scores due to JIT. Once all of the phones get Froyo, they'll be averaging around the same amount in Linpack, even more with the Droid X and Samsung. Also, note the color reproduction and the glare in the other phones compared to the Samsung Super AMOLED screen. Some people are saying they've been able to get the Samsung Captivate today even though its not out until Sunday and it is for $350 without a contract on AT&T! |
Android now has over 100,000 apps in it's marketplace! It doubled it's apps in 3 months. teh android is an unstoppable juggernaut, bitch!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/15/a...on-download-m/ |
Not a bad comparo, I'm still happy with my over 6 month old Nexus hanging in there with the big boys.
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
(Post 12174870)
lol. or we just like to get the best out of our phone's worth and more. :tomato:
by the way, they have a froyo build for the aria now. its based on the mt3g slide build by eugene. its missing a few things still though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724823 |
Originally Posted by GIBSON6594
(Post 12177584)
Not a bad comparo, I'm still happy with my over 6 month old Nexus hanging in there with the big boys.
Originally Posted by mcflyguy24
(Post 121776720)
Damn..no wifi, bluetooth, has issues with the camera..when this is more developed I will def root my phone for it.
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^ True true, the Nexus definitely still has a long lifetime. I was thinking about the Samsung as well seeing that newer Motos have a locked bootloader (who know if and how long it will take to crack it. Peeps are worried about the EFUSE but that has been proven to be part of the Milestone and original Droid chipset as well so it might be blown out of proportion.... time will tell i guess). It's funny that even though like the Nexus, a rooted device like the Droid is still is one of the top tiered phones even though new Android phones are coming out like every week!
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Glad Android is kicking butt. Get Apple off their fat asses. You got a year before I renew, apple. I may go Android. :nod:
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Originally Posted by HosTL Moderation
(Post 12179035)
^ True true, the Nexus definitely still has a long lifetime. I was thinking about the Samsung as well seeing that newer Motos have a locked bootloader (who know if and how long it will take to crack it. Peeps are worried about the EFUSE but that has been proven to be part of the Milestone and original Droid chipset as well so it might be blown out of proportion.... time will tell i guess). It's funny that even though like the Nexus, a rooted device like the Droid is still is one of the top tiered phones even though new Android phones are coming out like every week!
The Droid has a good backing because its from Moto and the fans they built from the RAZR days. To top it off, they have the best advertising in my opinion, out of all the phones out there. You rarely see any Android commercials out there and the ones out there put out by other companies *cough*T-Mobile, Sprint*cough* are not as good and as convincing as the 'Droid Does' campaign. Samsung has just recently sold 1 million of their Galaxy S worldwide: Did we mention that Samsung has sold over 1 million Galaxy S devices around the world? That figure is without the recently released, Vibrant, upcoming Captivate on Sunday, Epic 4G, Fascinate and all the other Galaxy S phones they're planning to sell in the other markets. They're aiming for 10 million sold and I think they'll be able to get that amount once they've released to all the markets. The custom ROM people are already pushing out custom ROMs for them. They said the root was easy since Samsung's recovery allows flashing of any zip file which normally requires a custom recovery in other Android phones. (Maybe they are serious about supporting this phone for the custom modders?) If I were Samsung, I would take advantage of the iPhone debacle and start going full force with their phones. A lot of people on the AT&T Facebook page are actually planning on selling their iPhone 4s based on today's 'Apple conference' and buying an unsubsidized Captivate and make about $300-400 cause of the cheap price of the Captivate. The Vibrant came out yesterday and T-Mobile did a piss-poor job of advertising the new phone. (I guess they're really not trying to gain any customers?) A lot of people on the Android forums I visited said none of the workers even knew what the phone was. I think that contributes to what makes the Droid sell so well because Verizon focuses all their time on the Droid, so their workers and the general public knows what it is. |
^ I agree, Motorola knows how to advertise! I havent seen as much with the Droid X, but that big red eye is lurking everywhere... LOL
Alot of non-techophyte peeps I know refer to all android phones as "Droid phones"... |
Originally Posted by Doom878
(Post 12179199)
Glad Android is kicking butt. Get Apple off their fat asses. You got a year before I renew, apple. I may go Android. :nod:
...Apple on the other hand has always been unto itself and pretty stingy with mods to their OS...but has alot of peeps in bed with them for apps... Its gonna be a crazy (and fun) 365 days so hang on tite! :thumbsup: |
I also read that the HTC Aria ability to side load apps got pulled. :confused:
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Originally Posted by Doom878
(Post 12179513)
I also read that the HTC Aria ability to side load apps got pulled. :confused:
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
(Post 12179245)
I think the Nexus One will be around for a while. They're about to add the FM Radio to it and I believe they're trying to add the DLNA support found in the Samsungs. If that's not great support from the modder community, then I don't know what is. lol.
The Droid has a good backing because its from Moto and the fans they built from the RAZR days. To top it off, they have the best advertising in my opinion, out of all the phones out there. You rarely see any Android commercials out there and the ones out there put out by other companies *cough*T-Mobile, Sprint*cough* are not as good and as convincing as the 'Droid Does' campaign. Samsung has just recently sold 1 million of their Galaxy S worldwide: Source: http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets/status/18636938067 That figure is without the recently released, Vibrant, upcoming Captivate on Sunday, Epic 4G, Fascinate and all the other Galaxy S phones they're planning to sell in the other markets. They're aiming for 10 million sold and I think they'll be able to get that amount once they've released to all the markets. The custom ROM people are already pushing out custom ROMs for them. They said the root was easy since Samsung's recovery allows flashing of any zip file which normally requires a custom recovery in other Android phones. (Maybe they are serious about supporting this phone for the custom modders?) If I were Samsung, I would take advantage of the iPhone debacle and start going full force with their phones. A lot of people on the AT&T Facebook page are actually planning on selling their iPhone 4s based on today's 'Apple conference' and buying an unsubsidized Captivate and make about $300-400 cause of the cheap price of the Captivate. The Vibrant came out yesterday and T-Mobile did a piss-poor job of advertising the new phone. (I guess they're really not trying to gain any customers?) A lot of people on the Android forums I visited said none of the workers even knew what the phone was. I think that contributes to what makes the Droid sell so well because Verizon focuses all their time on the Droid, so their workers and the general public knows what it is. |
Originally Posted by HosTL Moderation
(Post 12179606)
I have to say that the first Droid commercials made me feel like I was a kid again watching a commercial for a sweet Super Soaker! Droid definitely has a great marketing campaign around it.
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Originally Posted by HosTL Moderation
(Post 12179606)
I have to say that the first Droid commercials made me feel like I was a kid again watching a commercial for a sweet Super Soaker! Droid definitely has a great marketing campaign around it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOnC5chCag0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP2af...layer_embedded |
^Yea!! So sick. I hope they keep these coming (why wouldn't they) because that last one could totally be a kick ass movie! That would be sweet if they kept continuing that one.
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They need Android Old Spice commericals :nod:
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Originally Posted by Doom878
(Post 12180039)
They need Android Old Spice commericals :nod:
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hey, you bastards quit posting and making me click one more link to get to the iphone thread :rant:
jk :tongue: i'd like to see one of these droid X's screen in person... |
^ It's Incredible! Er wait, it's insane! It really is a nice display and perfect for multimedia.
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Do any of yall have an HTC Hero (Sprint)? I just got one recently, I'm completely lost as to which rom to install after rooting.
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Originally Posted by Doom878
(Post 12179513)
I also read that the HTC Aria ability to side load apps got pulled. :confused:
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Originally Posted by instinctellekt
(Post 12180714)
Do any of yall have an HTC Hero (Sprint)? I just got one recently, I'm completely lost as to which rom to install after rooting.
I'm not too familiar with what custom ROMs are available for the Hero but from the stable ones would be the Eclair ROMs (2.1). The unstable ones with new features would be the Froyo ROMs (2.2) like Cyanogenmod 6. Each ROM will differ with whatever the devs put in so you'll have to read what people are saying about them and try them out yourself. Like I said earlier, its very difficult to brick your phone trying to flash a custom ROM. You can always make a nandroid backup of your current ROM and restore it real quickly. Nandroid basically does a backup of the whole system image. Do a nandroid when trying out new ROMs should anything go wrong. |
Apparently there was a secret code hidden (I didn't see it :shrug: lol.) in the Droid X Video trailer I posted up earlier that leads you to the complete commercial on the DroidDoes website:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiaRA...layer_embedded Source: http://phandroid.com/2010/07/16/unlo...droiddoes-com/ |
Looks like the Nexus One is not going to be sold by Google anymore online. :sad:
http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot....hanges-in.html And AT&T just pulled off another bait and switch. The Captivate's unsubsidized price is now $499 instead of the $349 the reps kept saying it was. :annoyed: I guess it was too good to be true. Some people were able to get them for $299 and $349, however yesteday. So they got lucky unless AT&T somehow charges them for the price difference via service fees or something. I'm sure they'll find a way. Guess I'll be looking at the European Galaxy S if I'm gonna be paying that price. |
Maybe Jobszilla said so :D
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Originally Posted by CGFebTSX04
(Post 12180958)
Looks like the Nexus One is not going to be sold by Google anymore online. :sad:
http://googlenexusoneboard.blogspot....hanges-in.html And AT&T just pulled off another bait and switch. The Captivate's unsubsidized price is now $499 instead of the $349 the reps kept saying it was. :annoyed: I guess it was too good to be true. Some people were able to get them for $299 and $349, however yesteday. So they got lucky unless AT&T somehow charges them for the price difference via service fees or something. I'm sure they'll find a way. Guess I'll be looking at the European Galaxy S if I'm gonna be paying that price. |
Hitler's reaction to the new unsubsidized price for the Samsung Captivate:
<object width="480" height="360"><param name="movie" value="http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/video/xe2j8q"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" src="http://www.dailymotion.com/swf/video/xe2j8q" width="480" height="360" allowfullscreen="true" allowscriptaccess="always"></embed></object> http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xe2...new-captiv_fun These videos never get old. :rofl: |
Here's a good review of the Captivate and the Vibrant (Samsung Galaxy S variants) from CNN:
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/...att-captivate/ Screen: This the the best screen I've seen on a phone, period. That's coming from someone who has been using an iPhone 4's Retina Display for the past few weeks. Sure there are more pixels on the iPhone 4 (most of which I can't see) but the Galaxy's much larger four-inch, Super AMOLED display more than makes up for the lacking pixels. If you have any doubts, check out the Avatar video that T-Mobile includes with their phone. Not one person I've shown this to hasn't been blown away (expletives abound). Overall: If you can look past the (fixable?) GPS issue and the other small annoyances of the Samsung/Carrier Android software overlays, this is an incredible phone. The screen, weight and form factor is the best available in any phone right now, bar none. The camera doesn't have a Flash and doesn't face forward but is otherwise right up there with the best as well. The OS is a skinned (for better or worse) Android 2.1 with Froyo coming soon. |
I'm scared of Sammy with the Impression that I have although it's the top of the line dumbphone. However I had to get it replaced once for a dead touch screen and it happened again as I was giong to use it for hard work and the touch was dead again. :cuss:
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