Olympics: Chinese Accused of Using Underage Athletes **Medal Stripped (page 8)**
08-14-2008, 05:01 PM
#121
Originally Posted by chinoz
me get if over it? 
dude get a grip... I agree that these girls are underage
dude get a grip... I agree that these girls are underage
I meant get over that AMERICANS are talking about this.
08-14-2008, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by The Dougler
I'm not American, I don't care about gymnastics or medal counts and I think it's pretty appalling. It's not just the gymnastics it's all the other instances that have already occurred in the games too.
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08-14-2008, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
They cheated, the website that had the correct age of one of the girls has removed that webpage and the story. Guess what? It's controlled by the Gov't Media.
So sorry, your Country has been busted, get over it.
So sorry, your Country has been busted, get over it.
08-14-2008, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MWalsh9152
most of the youngins havent been hampered by injuries either. My sister was a gymnast for years, she actually trained and competed in the same local competitions with Alicia Sacramone when she was younger. The older they get the more their bodies start to show the wear of intensive training. At 17 my sister started having all kinds of problems with her knees and shoulders, causing her to give it up....and that was from training for competition on a national level. The training that olympic gymnasts endure is far and above that....so the very young girls wouldnt be slowed, or have injury in the back of their minds like someone that might have gone through it
08-14-2008, 05:16 PM
#126
I'm Down Right Fierce!
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...v=ap&type=lgns
ROFL. According to this yahoo article, she is referred to as a "HE" several times. Not only is China lying about their age, but possiblye their gender?!?!
ROFL. According to this yahoo article, she is referred to as a "HE" several times. Not only is China lying about their age, but possiblye their gender?!?!
08-14-2008, 05:18 PM
#127
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Originally Posted by BraveDemon
http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/bei...v=ap&type=lgns
ROFL. According to this yahoo article, she is referred to as a "HE" several times. Not only is China lying about their age, but possiblye their gender?!?!
ROFL. According to this yahoo article, she is referred to as a "HE" several times. Not only is China lying about their age, but possiblye their gender?!?!
HE is her surname...
08-14-2008, 05:19 PM
#128
Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
please tell me you mean to type that in red text...
HE is her surname...
HE is her surname...
08-14-2008, 05:22 PM
#130
either way its funny 
08-14-2008, 05:25 PM
#131
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Originally Posted by JediMindTricks
please tell me you mean to type that in red text...
HE is her surname...
HE is her surname...
08-14-2008, 05:37 PM
#133
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Originally Posted by evilone
I will say this, I think thatthe gymnastics girls had a few girls that should not have competed age wise. However, I do respect the skill sets that these KIDS have accomplished at such a young age. To think by the time the next games roll around they will be seasoned vets at the olympics. I think theymay have cheated age wise but, they damn sure had the skills to win. That very young girl doing the uneven bars, NO ONE could do the stuff that she does (no age matters when you that type of skill) Do I think they cheated yes, but in a way no. They may have lied about the age but the girls damn sure earned their place on the world stage IMHO.
No one has said they did bad, or aren't world class athletes. The world has no way of knowing though if an even more gifted underage gymnast is out there though. Because other countries likely followed the age rule.
It is just one of those things that is black and white. A rule is a rule. When one side breaks it, it's cheating and it nullifies the results.
08-14-2008, 05:41 PM
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I'm 35, and I get asked ALL the time if I'm still in school. This includes other chinese people.
Funnest thing recently was a 23 year old girl who came here from china thought I was younger than she was! ha!
But uhhhh, yeah, they look very young. But as stated, nobody will ever know.
I don't think it's necessarily a 'bash on them since they got gold' thing.
I think bashing China is becoming the big trend now. I think after the singer thing, and
their 'So we lied, big deal' response (reworded), I think it's now open season on them.
Sadly.
- Frank
Funnest thing recently was a 23 year old girl who came here from china thought I was younger than she was! ha!
But uhhhh, yeah, they look very young. But as stated, nobody will ever know.
I don't think it's necessarily a 'bash on them since they got gold' thing.
I think bashing China is becoming the big trend now. I think after the singer thing, and
their 'So we lied, big deal' response (reworded), I think it's now open season on them.
Sadly.
- Frank
08-14-2008, 05:57 PM
#136
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Something everyone is ignoring here if they are under age for the competition, theres probably a reason for it.
As has been mentioned, the younger a girl is, the smaller her body is and the more flexible she can be. Young children should not be undergoing the same types of physical training an older kid can handle. They are probably doing more damage to their bodies because of this.
I almost see this as more of an issue of exploitation of minors by the Chinese government than anything else.
I couldn't care less whether the US lost or the Chinese won. My concern is that a the Chinese government is forcing preteens to compete and train as if their bodies can handle it. I'd be surprised if any of these girls are still competitive at the next summer games or if their bodies are too damaged at that point.
As has been mentioned, the younger a girl is, the smaller her body is and the more flexible she can be. Young children should not be undergoing the same types of physical training an older kid can handle. They are probably doing more damage to their bodies because of this.
I almost see this as more of an issue of exploitation of minors by the Chinese government than anything else.
I couldn't care less whether the US lost or the Chinese won. My concern is that a the Chinese government is forcing preteens to compete and train as if their bodies can handle it. I'd be surprised if any of these girls are still competitive at the next summer games or if their bodies are too damaged at that point.
08-14-2008, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
Something everyone is ignoring here if they are under age for the competition, theres probably a reason for it.
As has been mentioned, the younger a girl is, the smaller her body is and the more flexible she can be. Young children should not be undergoing the same types of physical training an older kid can handle. They are probably doing more damage to their bodies because of this.
I almost see this as more of an issue of exploitation of minors by the Chinese government than anything else.
I couldn't care less whether the US lost or the Chinese won. My concern is that a the Chinese government is forcing preteens to compete and train as if their bodies can handle it. I'd be surprised if any of these girls are still competitive at the next summer games or if their bodies are too damaged at that point.
As has been mentioned, the younger a girl is, the smaller her body is and the more flexible she can be. Young children should not be undergoing the same types of physical training an older kid can handle. They are probably doing more damage to their bodies because of this.
I almost see this as more of an issue of exploitation of minors by the Chinese government than anything else.
I couldn't care less whether the US lost or the Chinese won. My concern is that a the Chinese government is forcing preteens to compete and train as if their bodies can handle it. I'd be surprised if any of these girls are still competitive at the next summer games or if their bodies are too damaged at that point.
08-14-2008, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by black label
Something everyone is ignoring here if they are under age for the competition, theres probably a reason for it.
As has been mentioned, the younger a girl is, the smaller her body is and the more flexible she can be. Young children should not be undergoing the same types of physical training an older kid can handle. They are probably doing more damage to their bodies because of this.
I almost see this as more of an issue of exploitation of minors by the Chinese government than anything else.
I couldn't care less whether the US lost or the Chinese won. My concern is that a the Chinese government is forcing toddlers to compete and train as if their bodies can handle it. I'd be surprised if any of these girls are still competitive at the next summer games or if their bodies are too damaged at that point.
As has been mentioned, the younger a girl is, the smaller her body is and the more flexible she can be. Young children should not be undergoing the same types of physical training an older kid can handle. They are probably doing more damage to their bodies because of this.
I almost see this as more of an issue of exploitation of minors by the Chinese government than anything else.
I couldn't care less whether the US lost or the Chinese won. My concern is that a the Chinese government is forcing toddlers to compete and train as if their bodies can handle it. I'd be surprised if any of these girls are still competitive at the next summer games or if their bodies are too damaged at that point.
08-14-2008, 06:34 PM
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08-14-2008, 06:39 PM
#142
Originally Posted by black label
Something everyone is ignoring here if they are under age for the competition, theres probably a reason for it.
As has been mentioned, the younger a girl is, the smaller her body is and the more flexible she can be. Young children should not be undergoing the same types of physical training an older kid can handle. They are probably doing more damage to their bodies because of this.
I almost see this as more of an issue of exploitation of minors by the Chinese government than anything else.
I couldn't care less whether the US lost or the Chinese won. My concern is that a the Chinese government is forcing preteens to compete and train as if their bodies can handle it. I'd be surprised if any of these girls are still competitive at the next summer games or if their bodies are too damaged at that point.
As has been mentioned, the younger a girl is, the smaller her body is and the more flexible she can be. Young children should not be undergoing the same types of physical training an older kid can handle. They are probably doing more damage to their bodies because of this.
I almost see this as more of an issue of exploitation of minors by the Chinese government than anything else.
I couldn't care less whether the US lost or the Chinese won. My concern is that a the Chinese government is forcing preteens to compete and train as if their bodies can handle it. I'd be surprised if any of these girls are still competitive at the next summer games or if their bodies are too damaged at that point.
ANd once they're done China just throws them away. NBC News had a story on tonight about what China does. They put them in Government controlled schools and practice five or more hours a day. These are kid 4, 5, 6 years old. They are taken from their parents. The report says that the kids may see the parents a couple times a year.
They then showed a 33 yr old women who was on the Chinese Army Ski team at the age of thirteen, once she was done they dumped her, but not before almost letting her die. She has diabetes, the "Sports Doctors" never "saw" it. She now lives with her mom, in a one room house, like 8x10 on $33 per month, welfare.
08-14-2008, 06:44 PM
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As for the Archery programs, Chinese spectators need to have some basic manners. I was watching the finals the other day, those Chinese spectators were shouting and blowing whistles when the opponent team was up to shoot. 
08-14-2008, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
ANd once they're done China just throws them away. NBC News had a story on tonight about what China does. They put them in Government controlled schools and practice five or more hours a day. These are kid 4, 5, 6 years old. They are taken from their parents. The report says that the kids may see the parents a couple times a year.
They then showed a 33 yr old women who was on the Chinese Army Ski team at the age of thirteen, once she was done they dumped her, but not before almost letting her die. She has diabetes, the "Sports Doctors" never "saw" it. She now lives with her mom, in a one room house, like 8x10 on $33 per month, welfare.
They then showed a 33 yr old women who was on the Chinese Army Ski team at the age of thirteen, once she was done they dumped her, but not before almost letting her die. She has diabetes, the "Sports Doctors" never "saw" it. She now lives with her mom, in a one room house, like 8x10 on $33 per month, welfare.
08-14-2008, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by JS + TL
As for the Archery programs, Chinese spectators need to have some basic manners. I was watching the finals the other day, those Chinese spectators were shouting and blowing whistles when the opponent team was up to shoot.
08-14-2008, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by bud760
x2 You guys can't compare their weight to your skinny asian gfs or thicker caucasian gymnasts. These girls eat a totally different diet than american fast food.
08-14-2008, 08:53 PM
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We no cheat, this I pwomise you..
Beside, you American have VERY VERY rarge penis...
Beside, you American have VERY VERY rarge penis...
08-14-2008, 10:08 PM
#150
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US is just a sour loser.
The US gymnast have much more world medals + experience than the Chinese girls combined, yet the US team made more mistakes.
With all that experience + world medals,
the US team shouldn't have made those mistakes.
Hopefully tonight, the US gymnast will do well on their individual matches
The US gymnast have much more world medals + experience than the Chinese girls combined, yet the US team made more mistakes.
With all that experience + world medals,
the US team shouldn't have made those mistakes.
Hopefully tonight, the US gymnast will do well on their individual matches
08-14-2008, 10:09 PM
#151
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Originally Posted by 2000TaffetaTL
I really, really dislike China. Not just because they put lead on our childrens toys but because they pull shit like this all the time.
Can you give us some examples???
08-14-2008, 10:12 PM
#152
Lose or not, the supplied underage girls, that is against the rules. This was also mention after the first night of competition on Monday. No one is going to be able to prove it. Though the China Media reported that the one girl was 13 less than a year ago.
08-14-2008, 10:14 PM
#153
Originally Posted by taz98spin
Can you give us some examples???
Google Tiananmen Square, dog food recall, tire recall, more toy recalls. You might catch up.
08-14-2008, 10:19 PM
#154
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Originally Posted by taz98spin
US is just a sour loser.
The US gymnast have much more world medals + experience than the Chinese girls combined, yet the US team made more mistakes.
With all that experience + world medals,
the US team shouldn't have made those mistakes.
Hopefully tonight, the US gymnast will do well on their individual matches
The US gymnast have much more world medals + experience than the Chinese girls combined, yet the US team made more mistakes.
With all that experience + world medals,
the US team shouldn't have made those mistakes.
Hopefully tonight, the US gymnast will do well on their individual matches
There is no question the American women's team choked, but at least they played by the rules set before them.
08-14-2008, 10:21 PM
#155
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
Google Tiananmen Square, dog food recall, tire recall, more toy recalls. You might catch up.
And how might all those events tie into the your claims of China cheating at the Olympics??
08-14-2008, 10:22 PM
#156
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Originally Posted by pttl
Wrong. The US just wants the Chinese to follow the same rules that ALL the other countries do. They, the Chinese, are so pressured to look good in the eys of the world, they'll do anything to do so.
There is no question the American women's team choked, but at least they played by the rules set before them.
There is no question the American women's team choked, but at least they played by the rules set before them.
this is NOT about the US losing to the chinese or the US blaming the chinese.
the majority here are under agreement that the US choked.
it's about the chinese breaking the rules, and that's an issue whether they beat the US or japan or russia, etc.
08-14-2008, 10:24 PM
#157
Because they'll do anything to get what they want. Go read about what they do the the kids to get them in the programs for sports and what they do with them afterwards. Tiananmen Square is a perfect example of what they'll do if you don't do what they want.
08-14-2008, 10:25 PM
#158
People on the forum is taking this thread the wrong way..here's a break down why we mad:
We mad because there are age rules in the olympics, and China is in the spotlight because of their young gymnist.
We ARE not mad because we didn't win. That's not what we are arguing in this thread.
If we have rules and dont follow them, whats the point of having it in the first place?
We mad because there are age rules in the olympics, and China is in the spotlight because of their young gymnist.
We ARE not mad because we didn't win. That's not what we are arguing in this thread.
If we have rules and dont follow them, whats the point of having it in the first place?
