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Old 11-13-2019 | 03:11 PM
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So Kap is doing a tryout Saturday?
The NFL is a weird company.

First, a representative from the league called a select group of reporters last week and suggested they should be available on the following Tuesday for a worthwhile news development. The NFL wouldn’t say what it would be. Just that the reporters should be ready to share some breaking news. When the day arrived, the NFL called Kaepernick’s representatives for the first time in more than a year, instructing them that the league was willing to hold a private pro-day style workout for Kaepernick in Atlanta in four days. If he accepted, a memo would be sent to every NFL team inviting them to attend.

The league wouldn’t answer why it was suddenly making the offer. It wouldn’t say who came up with the idea. It wouldn’t say who would attend. And it wouldn’t say why the workout was roughly 96 hours away and on a Saturday when most NFL teams were preparing for a game.

But the NFL would say this: After nearly three years of waiting for this offer, Kaepernick had two hours to accept it.
Old 11-13-2019 | 03:39 PM
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Sounds about right. Where's the movie on this league?
Old 11-13-2019 | 05:10 PM
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Apparently teams were contacting the NFL before reaching out to Kaepernick or his agent

#collusion #butheremails #impeachGoodell
Old 11-13-2019 | 07:11 PM
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So a 32 year old QB that hasn't played the game since 2016 with one notable season under his belt holding a workout is a "worthwhile news development".

No issue with him getting a shot, but the NFL falling over themselves to promote it is disingenuous at best.
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Old 11-13-2019 | 09:17 PM
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Some have mentioned that he could be a suitable stand-in for the practice squad to emulate Lamar Jackson, though I doubt he would stoop to scout team level. Those guys are so important, but get paid peanuts.

CJ Beathard has some decent wheels, he had like a 60 yard run a couple of seasons ago. He did his best Wilson impression in preparation f or the last game, but hurt his back in the process
Old 11-13-2019 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Louder
So a 32 year old QB that hasn't played the game since 2016 with one notable season under his belt holding a workout is a "worthwhile news development".

No issue with him getting a shot, but the NFL falling over themselves to promote it is disingenuous at best.
The more you think about it, the stranger it seems.
Old 11-14-2019 | 03:55 PM
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No issue with him getting a shot, but the NFL falling over themselves to promote it is disingenuous at best.
It seems worse than disingenuous. It now seems like a sham attempt to make it look like Kaep doesn’t want an offer from the league.

Less than 48 hours after offering to engineer a hastily scheduled and seemingly half-baked “pro day” workout for Colin Kaepernick, the NFL appears to have given the quarterback ample reason to pull out of the event.

Multiple sources familiar with the talks between Kaepernick and the NFL have told Yahoo Sports that several elements of the Saturday workout in Atlanta — which was proposed by the league under a two-hour deadline for a decision on Tuesday — are already running into significant issues. Chief among them, according to sources:
  • The NFL has refused to provide a confirmed list of team attendees before the event, allegedly breaking a verbal commitment between the two sides that was reached before Kaepernick agreed to the workout. The league has denied making such a guarantee and refused to give a reason for why the list will not be provided, sources said.
  • As of Wednesday evening, no defined throwing script was provided to Kaepernick, despite the event being less than three days away. There was also no indication from the league who Kaepernick would be throwing to. Under typical pro day circumstances, a quarterback is aware of the receivers and running backs he will be working with, as well as a defined structure of the program to suggest how many throws and routes will be expected during the workout.
As of Wednesday night, those were all critical issues weighing on the workout — potentially to the point that the event could still fall apart before Saturday. As it stands, a handful of teams have acknowledged publicly that they hope to send a representative to the pro day.

Thus far, those teams include the Atlanta Falcons, Cincinnati Bengals, Dallas Cowboys, Denver Broncos, Detroit Lions, Miami Dolphins, New England Patriots, New York Giants, New York Jets, Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Washington Redskins.

Interestingly, sources from two of those attending teams told Yahoo Sports on Wednesday that they were caught by surprise by the Kaepernick workout and were not advised on why the NFL scheduled it on a short-notice Saturday afternoon. One team source added that as of Wednesday afternoon, there was still no determination on who would attend the event for the franchise.

“We haven’t been told [why],” one team source said of the last-minute timing of the workout. “Other than that [invitation memo] and what is being said about it [in the media], I guess we’re all on the same track with whatever is happening. It’s not normal, but we’re just going with it.”

A third team — which will not be attending the workout — said that Kaepernick isn’t in its plans and that if he ever is, the franchise would prefer to set up a private workout rather than attending something orchestrated by the NFL.
Old 11-14-2019 | 04:00 PM
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Old 11-14-2019 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Louder
So a 32 year old QB that hasn't played the game since 2016 with one notable season under his belt holding a workout is a "worthwhile news development".

No issue with him getting a shot, but the NFL falling over themselves to promote it is disingenuous at best.
Where are they promoting it? Nowhere, no press release, nothing from NFL offices. All information has been release by the players people.
Old 11-14-2019 | 06:46 PM
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Where are they promoting it? Nowhere, no press release, nothing from NFL offices. All information has been release by the players people.
NFL is coordinating it. Their announcing it promotes it. But I'm splitting hairs - the NFL is involved is my point. Their involvement is disingenuous. Its a publicity stunt or an attempt to make Kaep look bad. But really the entire thing boils down to - why? Why him? Why now? Why in this manner? Why sponsor it when if teams really had interest they know where to find him?
Old 11-14-2019 | 08:14 PM
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Where does the NFL promote anything outside of telling the media?
Old 11-14-2019 | 10:54 PM
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Wild ending. Myles Garret might be suspended for the year

I 1000% stand behind Pouncy punching him
Old 11-14-2019 | 11:14 PM
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Pouncy wasn't just punching. He was kicking at Garrett's head as Garret lay on the ground. Pouncy will probably be suspended for a period too.
Old 11-14-2019 | 11:28 PM
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Pouncy should get a statue and a raise
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Old 11-14-2019 | 11:47 PM
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Dafuq at Garrett.

What an idiot.
Old 11-15-2019 | 12:02 AM
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Garrett's been way too fired up this season and racking up the penalties. That was egregious though.
Old 11-15-2019 | 07:09 AM
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Figures with his shitty half squats he'd do something else stupid

Old 11-15-2019 | 07:14 AM
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Figures with his shitty half squats he'd do something else stupid

https://youtu.be/4TsyxR15HG8?t=57
That's not a squat, that's a bow.
I hope he enjoys the rest of his season sitting on his La-z-boy.
Old 11-15-2019 | 07:47 AM
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Wild ending. Myles Garret might be suspended for the year

I 1000% stand behind Pouncy punching him
Pouncey lost it after his QB was assaulted, I have no issue with him standing up for his QB. Garret is a dirty piece of

The Browns were headhunting all game, before the helmet incident, Rudolph had been hit in the head at least 5 or 6 times, not to mention the hits on Juju and Johnson
Old 11-15-2019 | 09:26 AM
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Garett, see you next year. Pouncy enjoy a few weeks off. Rudolph, what a bitch, don't try and rip off someone helmet and get mad when they do yours. Oh Garett's a bully LOL!!! Looks and act just like that punk ass bitch on the Penguins.
Old 11-15-2019 | 09:32 AM
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Garett, see you next year. Pouncy enjoy a few weeks off. Rudolph, what a bitch, don't try and rip off someone helmet and get mad when they do yours. Oh Garett's a bully LOL!!! Looks and act just like that punk ass bitch on the Penguins.

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Old 11-15-2019 | 09:38 AM
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LOL at the Garrett haters. Rudolf was the first person to grab anyone’s helmet.

James Harrison calling it assault with a deadly weapon.
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Originally Posted by Myles Garrett
“I made a mistake. I lost my cool. I regret it. It's going to come back to hurt our team. The guys who jumped into the scrum, I appreciate my team having my back, but it should have never got to that point. It's on me.


That is embarrassing. What I did was foolish, and I shouldn't have allowed myself to slip like that. That's out of character. But a situation like that where it's an emotional game, like Larry said, and I allowed myself to fall into those emotions with that last play and what happened.
What a thug.

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Everything was fine up until he hit him with the helmet. No problem ripping his helmet off after Mason initiated it but you definitely can't hit the dude with his own helmet
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Old 11-15-2019 | 09:55 AM
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I get that. I’m not defending Garrett. I haven’t been able to watch much of his pro play, and I’m aware he has quite a few unnecessary roughness penalties. What he did was stupid and deserves suspension. I think Rudolph was acting like a bitch too.


In the next five years I bet Garrett is in the same league as Clowney and Kearse. Dude is a freak of nature. Hopefully he learns from this mistake.
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This will have the Suh affect on him for the rest of his career
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It was a late hit, Garret had him pinned down long after the play, Rudolph was trying to get Garret off of him, and y'all want to blame Rudolph? Typical Jupy

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Everything was fine up until he hit him with the helmet. No problem ripping his helmet off after Mason initiated it but you definitely can't hit the dude with his own helmet
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Everything was fine up until he hit him with the helmet. No problem ripping his helmet off after Mason initiated it but you definitely can't hit the dude with his own helmet
Agree. I think what led up to it was football players behaving badly, but it should have ended there. You just can't take a very solid object and swing it at another guy's unprotected head.

Don't know that I agree with some commentators this AM that this should transition to assault. But Garrett took a huge, stupid risk. If he busted his head open with the hard side of that helmet, I think criminal charges start coming up. But that's what may have happened, not what actually did.

As for the rest of the game, boy these teams really don't like each other.
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Agree. I think what led up to it was football players behaving badly, but it should have ended there. You just can't take a very solid object and swing it at another guy's unprotected head.

Don't know that I agree with some commentators this AM that this should transition to assault. But Garrett took a huge, stupid risk. If he busted his head open with the hard side of that helmet, I think criminal charges start coming up. But that's what may have happened, not what actually did.
A.) He knew that Mason just came back from a concussion where a Raven's player left his feet and blasted him in the jaw and knocked him out cold (Not saying this should matter, but just that he knew about it)

B.) He obviously did it with intent to injure. What if he hit him in the temple with the helmet and killed him?

Definitely a stupid thing to do no matter how you look at it, unless your Jupy and want to blame the guy who got busted in the head with his own helmet....
Old 11-15-2019 | 10:38 AM
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For a brief moment, I almost forgot that Gregg “kill the head and the body will die” Williams wasn’t on the Browns anymore
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A.) He knew that Mason just came back from a concussion where a Raven's player left his feet and blasted him in the jaw and knocked him out cold (Not saying this should matter, but just that he knew about it)

B.) He obviously did it with intent to injure. What if he hit him in the temple with the helmet and killed him?

Definitely a stupid thing to do no matter how you look at it, unless your Jupy and want to blame the guy who got busted in the head with his own helmet....
Won't argue the history, but IMO that's giving Garrett maybe too much credit for a premeditated act. It was a very physical game on both sides. Garrett found himself in the middle of an incident that he should have backed down from. But yes, there was a lot of potential here for things to have ended much worse than they did. But I don't think that potential means Garrett should go to jail. Suspended for a long time - yes.

And we shouldn't look past the fact Pouncy kicking him in the head on the ground too. There's a lot of "what if" scenarios there too that end badly.
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Pouncey should be applauded for coming to the aid of his team member. I'd do that if I saw someone I cared about being ASSAULTED too with a weapon.
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— Browns DE Myles Garrett suspended without pay indefinitely, at least the rest of the season.
— Steelers OL Maurkice Pouncey suspended 3 games and fined
— Browns DL Larry Ogunjobi suspended one game and fined.
— Other players involved may be fined.
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I’ve read at least three reports saying Garrett ripped off Rudolph’s helmet and hit him in the head with it. No mention of Garrett walking/getting pushed 10 yards away from Rudolph and Rudolph going back after Garrett to confront him. Maybe he was just going back to ask Garrett to politely give his helmet back? We all know that’s not what happened.

My only point is that taking one action in an altercation and claiming assault isn’t how assault works. Rudolph was the first to try and rip off anyone’s helmet, and he also went after the guy that ended up “assaulting” him?

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People acting like Rudolph was an innocent victim of assault.



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