NFL: 2014 Season News and Discussion Thread
#881
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I will say I think Dez Bryant is an idiot most of the time...but, he had a right to be pissed for that reversal.
Per the commentators, these are the same refs that made that call against Megatron...
Per the commentators, these are the same refs that made that call against Megatron...
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Ground caused an incomplete pass. He was going down to the ground. He needed to have control. Sorry Cowboys live and die by the refs.
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#887
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Wow - I run some errands and come back to Indy 21, Den 13. Did not expect that.
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I'm not much on defending some of these guys but this one wasn't on him. Every play, each of his receivers were smothered. There was no depth all season behind A.J. Green...high school WRs could run faster and better routes.
I would like to see Lewis gone and Hue Jackson (OC).
I would like to see Lewis gone and Hue Jackson (OC).
After this latest lose against the Colts, does anyone thing Manning is going to retire?
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Just can't win those playoff games
Big game losses piling up
I see why the Colts took Luck
Super Bowl watched from my couch
Maybe I should just retire
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There's talk John Fox's job is in jeopardy now. There are many free agents and possibly other new coaching staff. Peyton may want to hang up the cleats........
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But if you are Denver, how much are you going to throw at one more run?
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Oh, and the 12th Big Foot.
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Bryant definitely got robbed on that overturned call. That rule is fugging stupid, taking 3 steps and reaching for the end zone isn't a football move? And since when can the ground cause a fumble? Stupid rule change. (I hate Dallas, but couldn't believe they overturned that)
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Bryant definitely got robbed on that overturned call. That rule is fugging stupid, taking 3 steps and reaching for the end zone isn't a football move? And since when can the ground cause a fumble? Stupid rule change. (I hate Dallas, but couldn't believe they overturned that)
Bullshit
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What is horrifying is that if the cards play out poorly, it will be a Fackers/Belicheats Superbowl.
Holy, if my choice was Green Bay or the Cheaters and death is not an option...
<--- Biggest Indy and Seattle fans this weekend.
Holy, if my choice was Green Bay or the Cheaters and death is not an option...
<--- Biggest Indy and Seattle fans this weekend.
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Pats is an easy choice if the other choice is the Packers.
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Bryant definitely got robbed on that overturned call. That rule is fugging stupid, taking 3 steps and reaching for the end zone isn't a football move? And since when can the ground cause a fumble? Stupid rule change. (I hate Dallas, but couldn't believe they overturned that)
Why is no one talking about the obvious FB moves he made while he was in possession of the ball? Ridiculous call.
I'm not saying Dallas would have won the game. But it would certainly have made it exciting.
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Bryant definitely got robbed on that overturned call. That rule is fugging stupid, taking 3 steps and reaching for the end zone isn't a football move? And since when can the ground cause a fumble? Stupid rule change. (I hate Dallas, but couldn't believe they overturned that)
I saw the same call played out in regular season game this year.
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I thought that Dez was reaching for the end zone too, but I'm not sure that constitutes a "football move common to the game".
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I am indifferent to Dallas winning or losing. The thing that really bothers me about THAT play is how me maintained possession in bounds. At the moment the ball touched the ground, he had control of it. He temporarily lost control but regained it without it ever touching the ground again or going out of bounds. If you are trying to make the catch and the ball touches the ground without possession, I understand. If you catch the ball, make a few moves, hit the ground, and LOSE the ball, I understand. If you are in the process of completing the catch, someone dislodges the ball, and you go out of bounds before regaining control, I understand that too.
I don't understand why the ground is any different than a player in this scenario. If a player hits you immediately after a catch, you lose the ball, and regain possession in bounds without it hitting the ground outside of your possession, its a catch 10 times out 10. There wouldn't be a question. However, when the ground dislodges the ball and you catch it again, what is the difference? The ref is part of the field. If you run into the ref and lose control but regain it, is it incomplete? I don't see that getting overturned.
The rule is iffy to begin with, but the major issue I have is that he still had the ball at the end of the play. IMO, the play should have been a touchdown since he finished the play in the end zone. If you don't buy that, then the ground caused a fumble and the play was dead at the one. In any case, he maintained possession throughout the play, and that is why the call is wrong. Just my .
I don't understand why the ground is any different than a player in this scenario. If a player hits you immediately after a catch, you lose the ball, and regain possession in bounds without it hitting the ground outside of your possession, its a catch 10 times out 10. There wouldn't be a question. However, when the ground dislodges the ball and you catch it again, what is the difference? The ref is part of the field. If you run into the ref and lose control but regain it, is it incomplete? I don't see that getting overturned.
The rule is iffy to begin with, but the major issue I have is that he still had the ball at the end of the play. IMO, the play should have been a touchdown since he finished the play in the end zone. If you don't buy that, then the ground caused a fumble and the play was dead at the one. In any case, he maintained possession throughout the play, and that is why the call is wrong. Just my .
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I'm also not sure there was enough on the replay to overturn the call made on the field.
#908
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Packers haven't won in Seattle since 2009. I don't think it's a slam dunk by any stretch of the imagination, but I think of it this way: if each team plays an "average" game, Seattle wins (a close one). If Seattle plays extraordinary and Green Bay is average, Seattle wins. If Green Bay plays extraordinary and Seattle average, Green Bay wins.
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Packers haven't won in Seattle since 2009. I don't think it's a slam dunk by any stretch of the imagination, but I think of it this way: if each team plays an "average" game, Seattle wins (a close one). If Seattle plays extraordinary and Green Bay is average, Seattle wins. If Green Bay plays extraordinary and Seattle average, Green Bay wins.
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The rule is iffy to begin with, but the major issue I have is that he still had the ball at the end of the play. IMO, the play should have been a touchdown since he finished the play in the end zone. If you don't buy that, then the ground caused a fumble and the play was dead at the one. In any case, he maintained possession throughout the play, and that is why the call is wrong. Just my .
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I think he was just falling to the ground. It was his body's momentum that carried him forward I didn't see any football moves after catching ball and before the ground knocked it loose.
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I'm sure Mrs. Twig would love that...