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Old 04-02-2012, 02:14 PM
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Is this really news, much less a NFL thread post worthy?
Eh, just decided to slap it in here instead of starting up a thread. Pretty sad what has become of the guy.
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Besides, it will be discussion-worthy when the Bengirls inevitably sign him.
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New Nike NFL uniforms released today. Can't wait to see them. Supposedly the Seahawks have a new color or shade of (green?turquoise?)

EDIT: Looks bluer


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Appears the Seahawks are the only team to get much of a makeover barring more detailed pictures
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the new Nike Jersey's looks funky don't like at all still like the reeboks
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The helmets are neat.
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Aren't the helmets the same? And made by Riddel?
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^^I think so but I believe Nike owns the design. Because they changed the design on some helmets (Carolina Panthers)
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The neon green trim around the Seahawks uni's are kind of weird. I like how the Panther helmet takes over most of the side now.
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Originally Posted by DIZAZNDOOD320
the new Nike Jersey's looks funky don't like at all still like the reeboks
aside from the fabric and fit, they look pretty much identical
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Greg Williams is a POS coach. Espn released the audio on his bounties
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my middle school coach used to tell us to put people to sleep/ in their grave etc...
the terrible part of that entire speech was all in the last 30-45 seconds when he started targeting specific body parts. THAT i think is shitty.

but do people really think pre-game/half time speeches consist of "try harder" and "you can do it" ?

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Krama is a bitch trying to go after Niners

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d...headline_stack
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@ Williams...and I wonder if this is a big-time to Sean's appeal?
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Probably. The rams probably feel like shit hiring this guy, but feel better that he can't work for them
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Originally Posted by asianspec
Probably. The rams probably feel like shit hiring this guy, but feel better that he can't work for them
Don't think so...
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Originally Posted by Yumcha
@ Williams...and I wonder if this is a big-time to Sean's appeal?
What do you mean ? That was already stated as such.
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yea he was already indefinitely suspended.

he'll never coach again.
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yea he was already indefinitely suspended.

he'll never coach again.
wish they can lock him up for the shit he has done
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Originally Posted by DIZAZNDOOD320
wish they can lock him up for the shit he has done
That recording is very incriminating but I'm not certain he committed an offense for which he could be prosecuted.

Changing gears back to the new uniforms, they appear more evolutionary than revolutionary.
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Old 04-05-2012, 08:12 PM
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the new Seahawks unis make them look like some sort of arena football team
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Originally Posted by DIZAZNDOOD320
wish they can lock him up for the shit he has done
What? Told someone to go out and hit someone really hard?
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Originally Posted by jupitersolo
What? Told someone to go out and hit someone really hard?
Hitting someone hard is ok but to injured someone that's fucked up
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IMHO, the ACL comment was the clincher. Ringing someone's bell on purpose is fair game....especially on a WR. Honestly -- and maybe I'm just a relic -- most of this banter is normal football defense speak. I've watched enough NFL channel when they go back to the 60s (and prior) where guys were actually biting each other in the pile. (I wonder when the NFL will change to NTFL, maybe even become coed.)
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the new Seahawks unis make them look like some sort of arena football team
I think they copied too much off the Oregon uniforms
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Originally Posted by F23A4
IMHO, the ACL comment was the clincher. Ringing someone's bell on purpose is fair game....especially on a WR. Honestly -- and maybe I'm just a relic -- most of this banter is normal football defense speak. I've watched enough NFL channel when they go back to the 60s (and prior) where guys were actually biting each other in the pile. (I wonder when the NFL will change to NTFL, maybe even become coed.)
As a football player up to my college days thats normal football speak. Its an intense game and those are the kinda coaches you love because they get you fired up. Now the ACL comment was overboard. But hitting someone as hard as you can is the point of the game. NFL is definitely going to become softer game sometime in the future.

Also i actually think this may have helped Payton's appeal as he wasn't in the room while this was happening. But I do understand it happened under his watch. I dont think he should be gone the whole season though, maybe half (8 games) Williams career is pretty much done.
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NFL UPHOLDS SAINTS' SUSPENSIONS OVER BOUNTY PROGRAM

NEW YORK -- Sean Payton now knows for certain he won't be coaching in 2012.

And the New Orleans Saints must figure out whether Bill Parcells or someone else is best suited to take over a team seeking its fourth straight trip to the playoffs.

NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell on Monday rejected the Saints' appeals of their unprecedented punishment stemming from the league's investigation of the club's bounty system. The program offered cash bonuses for big hits that knocked targeted opponents out of games or hurt them enough that they required help getting to the sideline.

In addition to upholding Payton's suspension, which begins next Monday and runs through the Super Bowl -- in New Orleans next season -- Goodell also upheld suspensions of eight games for general manager Mickey Loomis and six games for assistant head coach Joe Vitt, along with a $500,000 fine for the franchise and the loss of second-round draft picks this year and next.

Loomis, who declined comment Monday, and Vitt begin their suspensions after the preseason ends.

The Saints case represents perhaps the starkest example yet of the sea change that the NFL has undergone since medical research and media reports on the long-term damage suffered by football players through concussions began to gain attention a few years ago.

While former players say off-the-books incentives have been around for years, and current players say the tough talk about getting after specific opponents happens in locker rooms throughout the NFL, Goodell responded to the Saints case by handing out stern penalties.

Former defensive co-ordinator Gregg Williams, who left the Saints after last season to join the St. Louis Rams, ran the bounty program and has been suspended indefinitely. He did not appeal.

Goodell said in a statement if Payton, Loomis and Vitt "embrace the opportunity and participate in a constructive way," he would consider reducing the financial penalties on them. While none of them has been fined, each will lose significant amounts while not being paid their salaries during the suspensions.

Goodell also "would consider whether there are factors that would support modifying the forfeiture of the team's 2013 second-round draft choice."

The commissioner's latest decision could open the way for the Saints to coax Parcells -- Payton's mentor since their days together in Dallas -- out of retirement.

Parcells, a Hall of Fame finalist who turns 71 in August, has said he would consider coaching the Saints if asked to help his former protege. Payton and Loomis played golf with the former NFL coach during NFL meetings in south Florida last month to talk to him about the team's predicament.

Payton's suspension was supposed to begin April 1, but he was allowed to continue working while his appeal was pending, delaying plans to select an interim coach.

If the Saints decide to hire an interim coach from outside the organization, as would be the case with Parcells, the club also would have to interview a minority candidate to comply with the NFL's "Rooney Rule."

Parcells, who won two Super Bowls with the New York Giants and took the New England Patriots to a Super Bowl, has not coached since retiring from the Cowboys after the 2006 season, though he then worked in Miami's front office.

The Saints also could decide to promote from within the current staff.

There are three strong candidates among Saints assistants to take over as interim coach: offensive co-ordinator Pete Carmichael, defensive co-ordinator Steve Spagnuolo and offensive line coach Aaron Kromer. Payton expressed confidence in the abilities of his assistants to compensate for his absence, but also has voiced some misgivings about saddling those coaches with additional responsibilities.

Vitt also could be a candidate to step in, as he did briefly last season when Payton broke his leg, once his suspension ends.

Loomis will be able to oversee the draft and handle other roster moves. When the preseason concludes, he will serve his suspension for failing to put a stop to the bounty system in a timely way.

With all the uncertainty, Payton had been working long hours at the Saints' suburban New Orleans headquarters trying to cram as much planning for 2012 into whatever time he had left.

Payton has said he laid out plans for the off-season training program and the beginning of training camp, up until the Saints play Arizona in the Hall of Fame game Aug. 5 in Canton, Ohio.

The NFL has said Williams' bounty system, which ran from 2009 through 2011, offered cash payments of $1,500 for "knockouts," in which an opposing player was knocked out of a game, or $1,000 for "cart-offs," in which an opponent needed help off the field. The league has said the bounty pool grew as large as $50,000, reaching its height in the 2009 season, when New Orleans won its only Super Bowl.

The investigation also found that Payton initially lied to league investigators about the existence of a bounty program and instructed his defensive assistants to do the same. It also found that Loomis did not do enough to put a stop to the enterprise after he was informed the league was looking into it in early 2010.

Payton twice apologized for his role in the bounty program, saying he takes "full responsibility" for allowing it to flourish.

The NFL has said as many as 27 players also could be sanctioned in the scandal, but it is not yet clear when that might happen, creating additional uncertainty for New Orleans and some teams that have signed former Saints defensive regulars as they tried to build their 2012 rosters.

Suspensions could be coming for players -- Goodell set a precedent last season when he suspended Lions defensive tackle Ndamukong Suh for two games for stomping on an opponent, and Steelers linebacker James Harrison one game for a flagrant tackle that gave Browns quarterback Colt McCoy a concussion.
Absolutely the right call. Head coach bears responsibility for everything that goes on with the team.
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Oh boy!!

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Well, when it rains, it pours on the Saints.
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Buh-Bye Saints.
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02-04 were such advantageous years for us

whatever they heard through this device, wasnt a big help lol

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Belicheat part deux?
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Originally Posted by F23A4
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Well, when it rains, it pours on the Saints.
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Buh-Bye Saints.
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02-04 were such advantageous years for us

whatever they heard through this device, wasnt a big help lol
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Belicheat part deux?
This is ESPN grand standing again, until they release the information and the source, it's bullshit.


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