NFL: 2011 Off-Season News and Discussion Thread
03-22-2012, 09:10 AM
#201
Watched Baylor's proday last night. Jeebus! RG3 is a beast. If the Colts take him I'm going to be pissed. How pissed will depend on what I see tonight while watching Stanford's proday with Andrew Luck. I can't believe I am actually complaining about getting Andrew luck in this year's draft. Its awesome! 
I guess thats what happens when you havent had a franchise QB in over 20 years. HTTR! 
I guess thats what happens when you havent had a franchise QB in over 20 years. HTTR!
03-22-2012, 09:17 AM
#202
Watched Baylor's proday last night. Jeebus! RG3 is a beast. If the Colts take him I'm going to be pissed. How pissed will depend on what I see tonight while watching Stanford's proday with Andrew Luck. I can't believe I am actually complaining about getting Andrew luck in this year's draft. Its awesome! I guess thats what happens when you havent had a franchise QB in over 20 years. HTTR!
I guess thats what happens when you havent had a franchise QB in over 20 years. HTTR!
03-22-2012, 10:00 AM
#203
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It will be interesting to see what happens to the Saints players who participated in the bounty program...
03-22-2012, 12:59 PM
#204
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Bears sign Michael Bush, formerly of the Raiders.
What's the word on this guy? Good? Bad? So-so?
What's the word on this guy? Good? Bad? So-so?
03-22-2012, 01:23 PM
#205
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yes because sean peyton could be confused with a verb or simple noun if not capitalized right?
Payton knew it was happening and didn't stop it. I say he deserves Williams' punishment.
we arent even talking cheap shots... just hard hits
the whole thing is a circus... Roger is saving his own ass... not acting for the greater good of the game.
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03-22-2012, 01:28 PM
#207
Payton and Williams both, hell all TEAMS were told not to do this. And the Saints and coaching staff was told three years ago to stop, this was on top of the NFL telling all teams to stop. Also Payton lied to the NFL about it even happening. Just as Mike Vick lied to the NFL about his dog fighting.
Get over the fact that it is "your" team.
03-22-2012, 01:31 PM
#209
He was a good player at Louisville and can shine if given the chance. He's a RB that needs the ball more to shine more. If used here and there, he might be good, here and there.
03-22-2012, 01:32 PM
#210
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But, here's hoping he can run. Still, Chicago needs some help on the O-line if you ask me. Getting a WR (abeit a basketcase in Marshall) was a start.
03-22-2012, 01:32 PM
#211
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Seriously, I must ask again: Why are so many WRs basketcases?
03-22-2012, 01:36 PM
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03-22-2012, 01:37 PM
#214
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03-23-2012, 05:10 AM
#216
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Regarding Bountygate, Ronnie Lott and Tony Dorsett have chimed in:
To Hall of Fame defensive back Ronnie Lott, the thousands of dollars New Orleans Saints players were paid under their bounty system from 2009-11 is not all that different from the helmet stickers handed out at lower levels of the game.
Little rewards for big plays are as much a part of football as runs and passes."I never played the game to take away somebody's livelihood. Have I hurt people? Yes. I got paid to make interceptions. I got paid to cause fumbles. And I got paid to make big hits," said Lott, who was with the 49ers, Raiders and Jets during his NFL career from 1981-94.
"It goes back to when I was 10. Somebody said that if you did one of those things, you would get a sticker on your helmet. In college, they gave you that recognition if you did well," Lott said in a telephone interview Monday. "So, no. I'm not really surprised by it." LINK
Hall of Fame tailback Tony Dorsett, who, like Turley, is a former player suing the NFL and its teams, wonders what all the fuss is about.
"I think a little bit too much is being made out of it, personally," Dorsett said. "If it was me, and I'm a defensive player, and I'm playing against the Dallas Cowboys, and Tony Dorsett happens to be one of their best players, it would be to our best advantage to get him out of the game. If it's within the rules of tackling and contact, so be it. I don't think it's that big of a deal. ... They're not telling a guy to mangle somebody or kill somebody. It's: 'Get him out of the game.'"
But football is a brutal sport where being hard...HARD, vicious (and ideally effective) hitter is usually rewarded via contract anyway. Any bounty is just an added incentive.
But don't worry; emasculation is the new masculine in America. I'm getting a little tired of seeing contact sports become bitchified!!
To Hall of Fame defensive back Ronnie Lott, the thousands of dollars New Orleans Saints players were paid under their bounty system from 2009-11 is not all that different from the helmet stickers handed out at lower levels of the game.
Little rewards for big plays are as much a part of football as runs and passes."I never played the game to take away somebody's livelihood. Have I hurt people? Yes. I got paid to make interceptions. I got paid to cause fumbles. And I got paid to make big hits," said Lott, who was with the 49ers, Raiders and Jets during his NFL career from 1981-94.
"It goes back to when I was 10. Somebody said that if you did one of those things, you would get a sticker on your helmet. In college, they gave you that recognition if you did well," Lott said in a telephone interview Monday. "So, no. I'm not really surprised by it." LINK
Hall of Fame tailback Tony Dorsett, who, like Turley, is a former player suing the NFL and its teams, wonders what all the fuss is about.
"I think a little bit too much is being made out of it, personally," Dorsett said. "If it was me, and I'm a defensive player, and I'm playing against the Dallas Cowboys, and Tony Dorsett happens to be one of their best players, it would be to our best advantage to get him out of the game. If it's within the rules of tackling and contact, so be it. I don't think it's that big of a deal. ... They're not telling a guy to mangle somebody or kill somebody. It's: 'Get him out of the game.'"
But football is a brutal sport where being hard...HARD, vicious (and ideally effective) hitter is usually rewarded via contract anyway. Any bounty is just an added incentive.But don't worry; emasculation is the new masculine in America. I'm getting a little tired of seeing contact sports become bitchified!!
03-23-2012, 07:44 AM
#217
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I agree with the above. I think the discrepancy in the Saints' case though was knocking Favre out of that game. IMO either way he was getting knocked the fuck out "bounty" or not.
03-23-2012, 07:46 AM
#218
Equating a sticker to thousands of dollars, not working. Bitchifing contact sports, not happen. They are still hitting has hard as ever. The players get paid a check and they get paid big $$$ if they are big players, that's the reward.
03-26-2012, 09:51 AM
#220
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the one thing that stuck out in my head is that it is sad they need incentive to knock somebody the fuck out.
as a defensive player, it should be in their DNA to destroy the man with the ball in the first place, its why its a multi-billion dollar business. people like big hits.
as a defensive player, it should be in their DNA to destroy the man with the ball in the first place, its why its a multi-billion dollar business. people like big hits.
03-26-2012, 10:27 AM
#221
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But, am I wrong to think Favre deserved to get knocked out? 
03-26-2012, 10:34 AM
#223
the one thing that stuck out in my head is that it is sad they need incentive to knock somebody the fuck out.
as a defensive player, it should be in their DNA to destroy the man with the ball in the first place, its why its a multi-billion dollar business. people like big hits.
as a defensive player, it should be in their DNA to destroy the man with the ball in the first place, its why its a multi-billion dollar business. people like big hits.
03-26-2012, 02:07 PM
#225
Parcells has stated that he has not been contacted by anyone about the job.
03-26-2012, 02:09 PM
#226
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Payton will ask LeBron to coach the Saints. 
03-26-2012, 02:37 PM
#227
^ How many superbowls will the LeSaints win? Not one, not two, not three...
03-26-2012, 02:55 PM
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03-26-2012, 02:55 PM
#230
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03-26-2012, 03:25 PM
#231
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03-26-2012, 03:38 PM
#232
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03-27-2012, 09:38 AM
#233
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hold the phones.
link http://www.wbrz.com/news/payton-migh...sion-appealed/
Payton might be allowed to coach if suspension appealed
Posted: Mar 27, 2012 8:49 A.M.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell might allow Sean Payton to coach the Saints if he appeals his season-long suspension for his role in the team's bounties program. Goodell said today at the league meetings in Palm Beach, Fla., that should Payton appeal, he "probably" would let him continue coaching after April 1, when the suspension is to begin. Payton's agent said Monday "no decisions have been made about an appeal."
Meanwhile, former NFL coach Bill Parcells says he's spoken to the suspended head coach but adds that no one from the team has talked to him about coaching the Saints this year. Parcells says that Payton has spoken to him about how to handle the season. The Saints have yet to announce their future coaching plans.
Posted: Mar 27, 2012 8:49 A.M.
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell might allow Sean Payton to coach the Saints if he appeals his season-long suspension for his role in the team's bounties program. Goodell said today at the league meetings in Palm Beach, Fla., that should Payton appeal, he "probably" would let him continue coaching after April 1, when the suspension is to begin. Payton's agent said Monday "no decisions have been made about an appeal."
Meanwhile, former NFL coach Bill Parcells says he's spoken to the suspended head coach but adds that no one from the team has talked to him about coaching the Saints this year. Parcells says that Payton has spoken to him about how to handle the season. The Saints have yet to announce their future coaching plans.
03-28-2012, 01:56 PM
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04-02-2012, 01:47 PM
#238
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Leaf Arrested for Burglary
I think the Bengals should sign him to a developmental contract.
ormer NFL quarterback Ryan Leaf was arrested again on Monday and is accused of committing another burglary two days after he posted bail on charges that he broke into a friend's home and stole prescription painkillers, a drug task force commander said.
Leaf has been jailed in the Cascade County Detention Center and is facing new charges of burglary, theft and two counts of criminal possession of dangerous drugs. He also is being detained on a probation violation.
"It's based on a burglary that happened yesterday afternoon after he bailed out," Central Montana Drug Task Force Commander Chris Hickman said Monday.
A call to Leaf's publicist was not immediately returned Monday.
The new charges are in addition to burglary, theft and drug possessions charges he faces from his arrest on Friday. Hickman declined to detail the allegations against Leaf regarding the latest burglary.
Leaf has an initial court appearance scheduled for Monday afternoon in which he will hear the charges against him.
Bond has been set at $101,000 for the burglary, theft and drug charges, but the probation violation charge does not carry a bond so Leaf cannot be released from jail, Hickman said.
The probation violation is related to a plea agreement Leaf made in Texas after being accused in 2009 of burglarizing a player's home while he was a quarterbacks coach for Division II West Texas A&M. An investigation turned up that Leaf had obtained nearly 1,000 pain pills from area pharmacies in an eight-month span.
His plea agreement gave him 10 years of probation. Randall County District Attorney James Farren said he planned to file a motion Monday to revoke Leaf's probation.
Leaf was arrested Friday after a monthlong investigation that started with a tip that Leaf had been receiving small, rattling c.o.d. packages worth $500 or more once or twice a week.
A search of Leaf and his pickup truck turned up 28 oxycodone pills, a narcotic for which Leaf does not have a prescription, Hickman said. The label on an empty prescription bottle also found in Leaf's golf bag was made out to an acquaintance, who told police that Leaf entered his house without permission on Thursday and stole the pills.
Hickman said authorities believe Leaf may have broken into other homes over the past 1 1/2 years in search of prescription drugs and is asking those victims to come forward.
Leaf has not returned calls or text messages seeking comment and a message left at his parents' phone number was not returned. He released a statement through his publicist after his first arrest on Friday that says he has "made some mistakes and have no excuses" but that he is "confident that there will be further understanding when the facts are revealed."
Leaf, a former standout quarterback for Washington State, was the No. 2 pick in the 1998 draft behind Peyton Manning. But Leaf flamed out as quarterback for the San Diego Chargers, gaining a reputation as one of the biggest busts in NFL history
Last year, Leaf had surgery to remove a benign tumor from his brain stem and later underwent additional radiation treatments.
On March 21, Leaf told an Associated Press reporter in an email exchange that he had struggled through treatments and had an MRI scheduled for the end of the month, but "I'm doing/feeling much better and am excited for the rest of 2012."
Leaf has been jailed in the Cascade County Detention Center and is facing new charges of burglary, theft and two counts of criminal possession of dangerous drugs. He also is being detained on a probation violation.
"It's based on a burglary that happened yesterday afternoon after he bailed out," Central Montana Drug Task Force Commander Chris Hickman said Monday.
A call to Leaf's publicist was not immediately returned Monday.
The new charges are in addition to burglary, theft and drug possessions charges he faces from his arrest on Friday. Hickman declined to detail the allegations against Leaf regarding the latest burglary.
Leaf has an initial court appearance scheduled for Monday afternoon in which he will hear the charges against him.
Bond has been set at $101,000 for the burglary, theft and drug charges, but the probation violation charge does not carry a bond so Leaf cannot be released from jail, Hickman said.
The probation violation is related to a plea agreement Leaf made in Texas after being accused in 2009 of burglarizing a player's home while he was a quarterbacks coach for Division II West Texas A&M. An investigation turned up that Leaf had obtained nearly 1,000 pain pills from area pharmacies in an eight-month span.
His plea agreement gave him 10 years of probation. Randall County District Attorney James Farren said he planned to file a motion Monday to revoke Leaf's probation.
Leaf was arrested Friday after a monthlong investigation that started with a tip that Leaf had been receiving small, rattling c.o.d. packages worth $500 or more once or twice a week.
A search of Leaf and his pickup truck turned up 28 oxycodone pills, a narcotic for which Leaf does not have a prescription, Hickman said. The label on an empty prescription bottle also found in Leaf's golf bag was made out to an acquaintance, who told police that Leaf entered his house without permission on Thursday and stole the pills.
Hickman said authorities believe Leaf may have broken into other homes over the past 1 1/2 years in search of prescription drugs and is asking those victims to come forward.
Leaf has not returned calls or text messages seeking comment and a message left at his parents' phone number was not returned. He released a statement through his publicist after his first arrest on Friday that says he has "made some mistakes and have no excuses" but that he is "confident that there will be further understanding when the facts are revealed."
Leaf, a former standout quarterback for Washington State, was the No. 2 pick in the 1998 draft behind Peyton Manning. But Leaf flamed out as quarterback for the San Diego Chargers, gaining a reputation as one of the biggest busts in NFL history
Last year, Leaf had surgery to remove a benign tumor from his brain stem and later underwent additional radiation treatments.
On March 21, Leaf told an Associated Press reporter in an email exchange that he had struggled through treatments and had an MRI scheduled for the end of the month, but "I'm doing/feeling much better and am excited for the rest of 2012."
04-02-2012, 01:59 PM
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04-02-2012, 02:08 PM
#240
Is this really news, much less a NFL thread post worthy?