NBA Discussion Thread
#164
Originally Posted by GTKrockeTT
might as well give them the title. if van exel is as clutch as he is in big games come playoff time....
and they were already unstoppable with all their guys from last year returning. we can only hope those old guys break down late in the season!
#169
I wonder whats gonna happen to the hornets this season.. they probablly wont play a home game this season and mabye ever again in NO since they were the highest on the relocation list anyway
#170
Probably do like the Saints and consider Baton Rouge in LSU. I heard the Saints are considering San Antonio (Benson, the owner, owns a practice facility there), Baton Rouge at LSU, or Birmingham (UAB field).
#171
Originally Posted by Doom878
Probably do like the Saints and consider Baton Rouge in LSU. I heard the Saints are considering San Antonio (Benson, the owner, owns a practice facility there), Baton Rouge at LSU, or Birmingham (UAB field).
#172
I heard a rumor that Minnesota and the Lakers are talking sign and trade for Spreewell. Doesn't he know its more expensive to feed his family here in SoCal?
jlukja, who is a Lakers fan but hates Spree.
jlukja, who is a Lakers fan but hates Spree.
#175
Originally Posted by BEETROOT
Guy I work with bought 4 suns season tickets for just him and his wife. Will sell me the extra tickets for any/every game $10 under face value per ticket
i think the suns had the worst offseason out of any team this year
#176
I'm pulling for the Bulls and Gordon since I follow all my ex-Uconn players.
I like watching the heat they are a fun team to watch too. I don't know if all that postseason movin and shuffling is gonna hurt or help them. Gary Payton is pretty damn old and didn't do much with Boston or LA and getting rid of Damon Jones?
Nothing around here excites me at all, the Knicks suck and the Celtics are boring as are the Nets.
I like watching the heat they are a fun team to watch too. I don't know if all that postseason movin and shuffling is gonna hurt or help them. Gary Payton is pretty damn old and didn't do much with Boston or LA and getting rid of Damon Jones?
Nothing around here excites me at all, the Knicks suck and the Celtics are boring as are the Nets.
#177
Originally Posted by Arram
i think the suns had the worst offseason out of any team this year
the sonics didnt do too hot either other than keep ray allen, and the Twolves signed a TON of nobodys
#182
Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
Anyone know if da bulls resigned Curry?
#184
Details of the Curry trade:
Bulls trade Curry to Knicks
Chandler: 'I'm sad to see him go'
By Andrew Seligman
The Associated Press
October 3, 2005, 10:34 PM CDT
The Bulls agreed to trade center Eddy Curry to the New York Knicks on Monday, ending a contentious negotiation in which the Bulls insisted the restricted free agent take a DNA test over a heart problem.
The Bulls also sent veteran center Antonio Davis to the Knicks, who traded away forwards Tim Thomas, Michael Sweetney and Jermaine Jackson. Several draft choices also changed hands in the deal, according to an executive in the Eastern Conference who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The trade was expected to be finalized Tuesday.
In making the announcement, an obviously frustrated Bulls general manager John Paxson did not specify what the Bulls got in return and did not field questions.
"We will have an announcement tomorrow morning," Bulls public relations director Sebrina Brewster said Monday night. "All we can say right now is we traded Eddy to the Knicks."
Knicks spokesman Jonathan Supranowitz said the team declined comment on Paxson's announcement.
The Bulls had insisted that Curry take a DNA test to determine whether he's susceptible to a potentially fatal heart problem. Curry, who missed the final 13 games of the regular season and the playoffs after experiencing an irregular heartbeat, balked, saying it violated his privacy.
"I would never put a player on the floor in a Chicago Bulls uniform if I didn't do everything in my power to find out all the information that was available," Paxson said. "You can debate genetic testing 'til you're blue in the face. But from what I know, from what I've learned over the last six months, that test could have helped us determine the best course of action."
Curry, drafted right out of high school, averaged a career-high 16.1 points in his fourth NBA season.
The standoff stemmed from a benign arrhythmia that caused Curry to miss the final 13 games of the regular season and the playoffs.
Several prominent cardiologists cleared Curry to play, but Barry Maron, a world-renowned specialist in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, suggested the DNA test.
Paxson has said he understands the privacy issues involved but insisted the Bulls do not have an ulterior motive; they simply do not want a situation similar to those of former Boston Celtics guard Reggie Lewis or Loyola Marymount star Hank Gathers -- players with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy who collapsed and died.
Paxson, speaking during the team's media day, told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next 50 years if he failed the genetic test.
"So he would have an above-average lifestyle that would put him in a position that most other people aren't in," Paxson said. "Our intention through that whole process was to show him that we did care about him and that we were concerned about his well-being."
Trade rumors involving Curry had heated up over the past week, and the Knicks were said to be willing to take on Curry without making him submit to a DNA test.
His acquisition gives the Knicks two new centers to begin the season after free agent Jerome James was signed to a five-year, $30 million deal in the offseason.
Sweetney had been slated to be New York's starting power forward, and Thomas was expected to start at small forward. The Knicks now have an added measure of depth along their front line, and the departure of Thomas could clear the way for newly acquired guard Quentin Richardson to see some minutes at small forward.
Curry's agent, Leon Rose, did not return calls seeking comment Monday.
Paxson said he resented insinuations that the Bulls were on a sort of witch hunt, trying to find information on Curry.
The general manager started by asking reporters to "let me ramble a minute." After a long pause, he said, "This has been about as uncomfortable and unusual a situation I could ever imagine. We've attempted from Day 1 to do the right thing, and I'm absolutely confident that we have in every way we went about it. And in a lot of ways we've met resistance in trying to gather all the information we feel we need."
About three minutes later, Paxson said, "From a basketball standpoint, I understand what I'm doing. But I have an obligation to this organization and the people I work for to do the right thing. And I did the right thing. That's all I've got to say."
Then, he walked away from the table.
That Curry and the Bulls parted was not shocking, given the tone of the negotiations.
Curry played a major role as the Bulls won 47 games and reached the playoffs for the first time since 1998 -- when Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen led them to their sixth NBA title.
"It's tough," said power forward Tyson Chandler, who re-signed with the Bulls for six years during the offseason. "I'm sad to see him go."
Copyright © 2005, The Associated Press
Bulls trade Curry to Knicks
Chandler: 'I'm sad to see him go'
By Andrew Seligman
The Associated Press
October 3, 2005, 10:34 PM CDT
The Bulls agreed to trade center Eddy Curry to the New York Knicks on Monday, ending a contentious negotiation in which the Bulls insisted the restricted free agent take a DNA test over a heart problem.
The Bulls also sent veteran center Antonio Davis to the Knicks, who traded away forwards Tim Thomas, Michael Sweetney and Jermaine Jackson. Several draft choices also changed hands in the deal, according to an executive in the Eastern Conference who spoke on condition of anonymity.
The trade was expected to be finalized Tuesday.
In making the announcement, an obviously frustrated Bulls general manager John Paxson did not specify what the Bulls got in return and did not field questions.
"We will have an announcement tomorrow morning," Bulls public relations director Sebrina Brewster said Monday night. "All we can say right now is we traded Eddy to the Knicks."
Knicks spokesman Jonathan Supranowitz said the team declined comment on Paxson's announcement.
The Bulls had insisted that Curry take a DNA test to determine whether he's susceptible to a potentially fatal heart problem. Curry, who missed the final 13 games of the regular season and the playoffs after experiencing an irregular heartbeat, balked, saying it violated his privacy.
"I would never put a player on the floor in a Chicago Bulls uniform if I didn't do everything in my power to find out all the information that was available," Paxson said. "You can debate genetic testing 'til you're blue in the face. But from what I know, from what I've learned over the last six months, that test could have helped us determine the best course of action."
Curry, drafted right out of high school, averaged a career-high 16.1 points in his fourth NBA season.
The standoff stemmed from a benign arrhythmia that caused Curry to miss the final 13 games of the regular season and the playoffs.
Several prominent cardiologists cleared Curry to play, but Barry Maron, a world-renowned specialist in hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, suggested the DNA test.
Paxson has said he understands the privacy issues involved but insisted the Bulls do not have an ulterior motive; they simply do not want a situation similar to those of former Boston Celtics guard Reggie Lewis or Loyola Marymount star Hank Gathers -- players with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy who collapsed and died.
Paxson, speaking during the team's media day, told reporters the Bulls had offered Curry $400,000 annually for the next 50 years if he failed the genetic test.
"So he would have an above-average lifestyle that would put him in a position that most other people aren't in," Paxson said. "Our intention through that whole process was to show him that we did care about him and that we were concerned about his well-being."
Trade rumors involving Curry had heated up over the past week, and the Knicks were said to be willing to take on Curry without making him submit to a DNA test.
His acquisition gives the Knicks two new centers to begin the season after free agent Jerome James was signed to a five-year, $30 million deal in the offseason.
Sweetney had been slated to be New York's starting power forward, and Thomas was expected to start at small forward. The Knicks now have an added measure of depth along their front line, and the departure of Thomas could clear the way for newly acquired guard Quentin Richardson to see some minutes at small forward.
Curry's agent, Leon Rose, did not return calls seeking comment Monday.
Paxson said he resented insinuations that the Bulls were on a sort of witch hunt, trying to find information on Curry.
The general manager started by asking reporters to "let me ramble a minute." After a long pause, he said, "This has been about as uncomfortable and unusual a situation I could ever imagine. We've attempted from Day 1 to do the right thing, and I'm absolutely confident that we have in every way we went about it. And in a lot of ways we've met resistance in trying to gather all the information we feel we need."
About three minutes later, Paxson said, "From a basketball standpoint, I understand what I'm doing. But I have an obligation to this organization and the people I work for to do the right thing. And I did the right thing. That's all I've got to say."
Then, he walked away from the table.
That Curry and the Bulls parted was not shocking, given the tone of the negotiations.
Curry played a major role as the Bulls won 47 games and reached the playoffs for the first time since 1998 -- when Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen led them to their sixth NBA title.
"It's tough," said power forward Tyson Chandler, who re-signed with the Bulls for six years during the offseason. "I'm sad to see him go."
Copyright © 2005, The Associated Press
#186
Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
fucking BULLSHIT!!!
Well, a decent scoring bigman is hard to come by and the Bulls traded one away. However, with his heart condition, the team was in a quandary. I don't know if Paxson had any choice...
#187
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Well, a decent scoring bigman is hard to come by and the Bulls traded one away. However, with his heart condition, the team was in a quandary. I don't know if Paxson had any choice...
#188
Originally Posted by teg_to_bike
yeah, there is no point keeping him around if you don't know when he can play and when he cant. It ruins the team chemistry.
I think it's the best for the Bulls. Besides, I think they have the tools to be a pretty competitive team anyhow with Gordon, Hinrich, et al...
#191
I would have done the same thing Paxson did. If I'm paying someone tens of millions of dollars, I'd wanna make sure that he can play and is worth every penny throughout the contract. Curry is just a little bitch. He hasn't even been that good for Chicago as they thought he would be. Yes he has had some great games, but sometimes he couldn't do shit against the better centers. He would explode at the beginning of a game and sometimes not even play in the last 2 quarters. I always liked Tyson better because he always seemed to give everything. IMO, someone with Curry's attitude about working out and comming in overweight to camp doesn't deserve a multi million contract, let alone someone with heart problems.
#193
Just out of curiousity are the new Bulls players out of contracts soon? Maybe they're also freeing cap space.
I think Curry was going to be great if it weren't for the heart thing. He may still be productive but his game could go down a notch like Zo's. Unfortunately, he wasn't as good as Zo in his prime.
I think Curry was going to be great if it weren't for the heart thing. He may still be productive but his game could go down a notch like Zo's. Unfortunately, he wasn't as good as Zo in his prime.
#195
Originally Posted by Doom878
Just out of curiousity are the new Bulls players out of contracts soon? Maybe they're also freeing cap space.
I think Curry was going to be great if it weren't for the heart thing. He may still be productive but his game could go down a notch like Zo's. Unfortunately, he wasn't as good as Zo in his prime.
I think Curry was going to be great if it weren't for the heart thing. He may still be productive but his game could go down a notch like Zo's. Unfortunately, he wasn't as good as Zo in his prime.
#196
Originally Posted by Doom878
Just out of curiousity are the new Bulls players out of contracts soon? Maybe they're also freeing cap space.
I think Curry was going to be great if it weren't for the heart thing. He may still be productive but his game could go down a notch like Zo's. Unfortunately, he wasn't as good as Zo in his prime.
I think Curry was going to be great if it weren't for the heart thing. He may still be productive but his game could go down a notch like Zo's. Unfortunately, he wasn't as good as Zo in his prime.