NBA Discussion Thread
#1241
Kobe will pass to other teammates...and that stat is probably misleading. Lebron gets to pass to whom? Smush Parker? Lamar Odom?
Lebron gets to pass to Ilguaskas....not much defensively, but a pretty good 2nd option.
Also, I wouldnt want Lebron leading my 4th quarter comeback.....that guy is gonna need to man up or figure out how to play in crunch time.
Lebron gets to pass to Ilguaskas....not much defensively, but a pretty good 2nd option.
Also, I wouldnt want Lebron leading my 4th quarter comeback.....that guy is gonna need to man up or figure out how to play in crunch time.
#1242
Originally Posted by cmark
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/statis...ts&season=2006
lebron 6.6 assists per game #11 of 50
kome 4.7 assists per game #28 of 50
lebron 6.9 rebounds per game
kome 5.4 rebounds per game
looks like lebron is more of a team player to me
lebron 6.6 assists per game #11 of 50
kome 4.7 assists per game #28 of 50
lebron 6.9 rebounds per game
kome 5.4 rebounds per game
looks like lebron is more of a team player to me
Field Goal Percentage:
Lebron 48.0%, #36
Kobe 44.8, #65
Free Throw Percentage:
Lebron 72.6%, #106
Kobe 83.9%, #26
Turnovers:
Lebron 3.3topg, #5
Kobe 3.1topg, #12
Steals:
Lebron 1.58spg, #15
Kobe 1.78spg, #8
Looks like Kobe is the more complete player to me
#1246
Originally Posted by jlukja
Lets add a few more pertinent stats:
Field Goal Percentage:
Lebron 48.0%, #36
Kobe 44.8, #65
Free Throw Percentage:
Lebron 72.6%, #106
Kobe 83.9%, #26
Turnovers:
Lebron 3.3topg, #5
Kobe 3.1topg, #12
Steals:
Lebron 1.58spg, #15
Kobe 1.78spg, #8
Looks like Kobe is the more complete player to me
Field Goal Percentage:
Lebron 48.0%, #36
Kobe 44.8, #65
Free Throw Percentage:
Lebron 72.6%, #106
Kobe 83.9%, #26
Turnovers:
Lebron 3.3topg, #5
Kobe 3.1topg, #12
Steals:
Lebron 1.58spg, #15
Kobe 1.78spg, #8
Looks like Kobe is the more complete player to me
#1247
kome? never heard that before, i can see why....and moo said exactly what i was going to. whenever people talk about assists, no one ever mentions that you need good players to pass to if you are going to get assists. just because lamar odom acts like a fucking caveman who just discovered fire when someone throws him the ball, doesnt mean kobe doesnt pass.
lebron is shoot first pass second kinda guy more than kobe IMO. kobe does what he can to win, lebron does it to look good, and fails.
lebron is shoot first pass second kinda guy more than kobe IMO. kobe does what he can to win, lebron does it to look good, and fails.
#1248
Originally Posted by cmark
I don't think the differences in these stats support your argument very well.
#1249
for what it's worth, yes, i know Kobe is an awesome player. there's no denying that. would i want him to take a game winning shot? sure. if i was a GM, would i want him to be the player i build around? no.
#1250
i wouldnt take anyone besides kobe to build my franchise around. duncan is probably a close second. lebron has already accomplished the best thing he will do his whole career, which was the all star mvp, that ballhog
Last edited by slayer202; 03-01-2006 at 05:06 PM.
#1253
Originally Posted by cmark
for what it's worth, yes, i know Kobe is an awesome player. there's no denying that. would i want him to take a game winning shot? sure. if i was a GM, would i want him to be the player i build around? no.
(I like Garnett, but he doesnt inspire his team. Lebron is doing well, but he is not clutch. Tim Duncan is the most fundamentally sound, imagine if Kobe were that sound fundamentally.)
#1256
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Cool. Worried I offended you...
But, now I have no comeback...
But, now I have no comeback...
#1260
Originally Posted by Yumchah
Yeah? How many Championship trophies your Warriors have, punk?
#1264
Originally Posted by Yumchah
How's that smog right now?
How's the skiing? Ill be up this weekend.....okay, we better quit. This is one of those official threads.
#1268
Originally Posted by GTKrockeTT
i'd take lebron over kobe to start a franchise...taking in consideration their age. heck, i'd probably take wade over kobe too.
sky's the limit for these youngsters.
sky's the limit for these youngsters.
#1270
Who would you guys start?
Big lineup
PG Billups - most experienced, shoots 3s (problem last Olympics) and good D
SG Kobe - experienced, complete, Wade on his heels though
SF Marion - the Matrix gets boards, plays D, does it all
PF Brand - the best PF since Amare was hurt and Duncan isn't playing
C Stoudamire- he better 100% pre injury or Miller since he's the only true center
Small lineup
PG Billups
SG Wade
SF Kobe or Lebron if Kobe doesn't play the 3 that well
PF Marion
C Stoudamire
Big lineup
PG Billups - most experienced, shoots 3s (problem last Olympics) and good D
SG Kobe - experienced, complete, Wade on his heels though
SF Marion - the Matrix gets boards, plays D, does it all
PF Brand - the best PF since Amare was hurt and Duncan isn't playing
C Stoudamire- he better 100% pre injury or Miller since he's the only true center
Small lineup
PG Billups
SG Wade
SF Kobe or Lebron if Kobe doesn't play the 3 that well
PF Marion
C Stoudamire
#1271
Originally Posted by moomaster_99
What is kobe now? 27? 9 years of experience.....and couple of rings makes up for some youth......
#1272
Originally Posted by GTKrockeTT
i said "to start a franchise." this is a forward looking statement. if you had to ask me who i'd take this year or the next two, it would be kobe...no doubt.
#1273
Originally Posted by moomaster_99
I understand that....I wouldnt take wade or lebron.....Id take Chris Paul....he obviously is the next true PG......hes already taken Oklahoma City farther as a rookie than Lebron has in 3 years....
and, in my opinion, you should change you handle to coocoomaster_99 taking chris paul over wade or lebron.
#1275
Originally Posted by GTKrockeTT
i said "to start a franchise." this is a forward looking statement. if you had to ask me who i'd take this year or the next two, it would be kobe...no doubt.
#1276
Originally Posted by GTKrockeTT
farther where? they haven't made the playoffs yet.
and, in my opinion, you should change you handle to coocoomaster_99 taking chris paul over wade or lebron.
and, in my opinion, you should change you handle to coocoomaster_99 taking chris paul over wade or lebron.
Good PGs and Centers are the hardest position to fill on a team. I could find a Wade or Lebron easier than finding a Chris Paul.
Oh yeah...any team can make the playoffs in the East.
Last edited by moomaster_99; 03-02-2006 at 12:59 PM.
#1277
Originally Posted by moomaster_99
Good PGs and Centers are the hardest position to fill on a team. I could find a Wade or Lebron easier than finding a Chris Paul.
That's why Shaq was the most dominant player for so long...
#1278
Originally Posted by Yumchah
True. Actually, I think a good big man is even harder to find than a PG...
That's why Shaq was the most dominant player for so long...
That's why Shaq was the most dominant player for so long...
#1279
Originally Posted by moomaster_99
That lazy ass could have 10 rings if he actually learned how to play or even shoot 60% from the FT.
same thing if tony parker learned to shoot a jumper
btw, kinda off topic, i really hate how shaq gets every fucking call from the refs. it is crazy seeing the kinda stuff he gets away with
#1280
Originally Posted by slayer202
imagine if he could hit a shot from more than 3 feet away from the basket
same thing if tony parker learned to shoot a jumper
same thing if tony parker learned to shoot a jumper