NBA: 2014 Off-Season News and Discussion Thread
07-08-2014, 09:50 AM
#81
^^FWIW I think he is, but only because the real superstars (in both talent and notoriety) should be paid more.
He's on the second tier, but IMO, he's gotten much better than before. He's one of those guys you'll pay because it finishes your championship squad.
He's on the second tier, but IMO, he's gotten much better than before. He's one of those guys you'll pay because it finishes your championship squad.
07-08-2014, 10:29 AM
#82
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Bunch of pansies traveling to all these cities cus they are greedy fucks and all they want is the most money possible, just so they can go broke 5 years after they retire. For the love of the game 
The NBA needs to learn from the NHL. 99% of their offseason trades were done in 48 hours.
The NBA needs to learn from the NHL. 99% of their offseason trades were done in 48 hours.
07-08-2014, 10:43 AM
#83
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Bunch of pansies traveling to all these cities cus they are greedy fucks and all they want is the most money possible, just so they can go broke 5 years after they retire. For the love of the game
The NBA needs to learn from the NHL. 99% of their offseason trades were done in 48 hours.
The NBA needs to learn from the NHL. 99% of their offseason trades were done in 48 hours.
Using Anthony as an example, what he leaves on the table if he signs with Chicago is a big amount...even if the Lakers offer max $$$ he'd still leave a pile on the table. But, here's the rub...if he goes back to NY for the max, what room does that give the team to give him a contender again? Isn't this what the Knicks did to ACQUIRE him in the first place? They gutted the roster and NY was mired in mediocrity forever.
07-08-2014, 12:01 PM
#84
I don't think the NHL and NBA are comparable on many levels. Kobe/Lebron have been in the finals 12 of the last 14 years. Magic or Bird were in all the finals from the 80s (80-89).
MJ made a billion dollars, won 6, and continues to make money in and out of the league. It pays to have stars, so you pay your stars. If someone is willing to pay, its not their greed, its what the market is willing to bear...and the very top stars are still underpaid.
...and let's not be naive here. All professional sports are overpaid. They aren't curing cancer or bettering humanity. If NHL players don't want to get their fair share from their team as whole, thats on them.
MJ made a billion dollars, won 6, and continues to make money in and out of the league. It pays to have stars, so you pay your stars. If someone is willing to pay, its not their greed, its what the market is willing to bear...and the very top stars are still underpaid.
...and let's not be naive here. All professional sports are overpaid. They aren't curing cancer or bettering humanity. If NHL players don't want to get their fair share from their team as whole, thats on them.
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07-08-2014, 06:49 PM
#85
I'll believe it when I see it when some of the guys are saying "it's not about the money and about winning"...
Using Anthony as an example, what he leaves on the table if he signs with Chicago is a big amount...even if the Lakers offer max $$$ he'd still leave a pile on the table. But, here's the rub...if he goes back to NY for the max, what room does that give the team to give him a contender again? Isn't this what the Knicks did to ACQUIRE him in the first place? They gutted the roster and NY was mired in mediocrity forever.
Using Anthony as an example, what he leaves on the table if he signs with Chicago is a big amount...even if the Lakers offer max $$$ he'd still leave a pile on the table. But, here's the rub...if he goes back to NY for the max, what room does that give the team to give him a contender again? Isn't this what the Knicks did to ACQUIRE him in the first place? They gutted the roster and NY was mired in mediocrity forever.
Some will point to other players taking less money but everyone is different and in different situations those players (Duncan, Dirk)are in with winning franchises and they have confidence in their management. The Knicks even with PJ and Fish onboard have a long ways to go.
Melo was stuck in Denver hell for most of his career and he might never another chance to make this kind of money so he should take it while he can.
07-08-2014, 09:02 PM
#86
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Let's say Melo goes back to NY and doesn't take the max, there's no guarantee especially with Dolan as an owner that the Knicks could attract or sign good enough FA's to win a championship or even get close.
Some will point to other players taking less money but everyone is different and in different situations those players (Duncan, Dirk)are in with winning franchises and they have confidence in their management. The Knicks even with PJ and Fish onboard have a long ways to go.
Melo was stuck in Denver hell for most of his career and he might never another chance to make this kind of money so he should take it while he can.
Some will point to other players taking less money but everyone is different and in different situations those players (Duncan, Dirk)are in with winning franchises and they have confidence in their management. The Knicks even with PJ and Fish onboard have a long ways to go.
Melo was stuck in Denver hell for most of his career and he might never another chance to make this kind of money so he should take it while he can.
Suppose LeBosh takes Houston's stupid max offer and leaves the LeHeat...it could actually work out terrifically for the LeHeat because guess who'd step into LeBosh's old spot? Anthony. So, you'd gotta think Miami is praying that LeBosh is going to Houston...
Otherwise, maybe both LeBron and Anthony go to LA? Otherwise, if both of those two are not teaming up...the best place for Anthony is Chicago. Best fit and the team with the most pieces for him to win now.
But, again...I doubt it. Money talks...and he's leaving a pile on the table.
07-09-2014, 12:02 AM
#88
Not jumping into the discussion here, but I have to believe that taxes are also taken into account when a player calculates what they'll net as salary. Too big of a chunk of money not to. In that situation, NY and LA aren't as lucrative as the same deal in Miami. Perhaps the max deal in NY is worth the same as a deal in Miami, and the LA deal is less than both.
I know Dwight broke even going to Houston. Just saying...Melo to Miami is entirely possible.
I know Dwight broke even going to Houston. Just saying...Melo to Miami is entirely possible.
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07-09-2014, 12:09 AM
#89
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On paper. As a Bulls fan, I'm so jaded by the NBAs free agency that I do not see Anthony being in Chicago to even consider it. I don't think his selfish playing is conducive to Coach Thib's system.
07-09-2014, 01:30 AM
#90
I really don't believe Derrick Rose will ever be the same player he was before his injuries so if Melo went to Chicago most of the pressure would be on him and I think that's the opposite of what he wants.
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07-09-2014, 07:31 AM
#91
Team Owner
Today Riley will speak with Lebron in Vegas. Riley will pitch how Josh McBob, Grainger, Shabazz, and whoever else he thinks he can get will get him more rings. I doubt Gasol joins since he probably wants to get paid.
07-09-2014, 03:24 PM
#92
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He's going to re-sign with the Knicks. As expected.
07-09-2014, 09:29 PM
#93
Senior Moderator
@ Nets' $90M luxury tax: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/11...salary-cap-set
07-09-2014, 10:10 PM
#94
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Parsons signs with Mavs. Houston has 3 days to match.
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...al-sources-say
http://espn.go.com/dallas/nba/story/...al-sources-say
07-10-2014, 08:05 AM
#96
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We need a nice big, giant gong. Extra golden in color gong. So that we all can strike it.
07-10-2014, 11:36 AM
#98
I'm all for athlete empowerment, but make a damned decision already.
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07-10-2014, 12:23 PM
#99
Team Owner
He can do no right. He hasn't said a peep and has only met with the Heat face to face. Plus he's only been in Vegas and is going to Brazil for the Cup. The moratorium did just end this morning.
07-10-2014, 04:11 PM
#101
I shoot people
wait, Yummy got banned?
07-10-2014, 04:37 PM
#102
Who did he piss off?
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07-11-2014, 07:27 AM
#104
Team Owner
The most crucial part of the year and he's banned. FFFFFUUUUUUUU 
The crazy ex-girlfriend's
This one's funny
BREAKING: picture of #Cavs fans outside Lebron's house. http://t.co/KUUwJTUxiT
The crazy ex-girlfriend's
This one's funny
BREAKING: picture of #Cavs fans outside Lebron's house. http://t.co/KUUwJTUxiT
07-11-2014, 11:40 AM
#106
07-11-2014, 11:41 AM
#107
Another summer where James makes himself to story.
07-11-2014, 12:08 PM
#109
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Call me crazy/naive but I really liked the way he handled this. That letter was a nice touch. Happy for Cleveland. Nice to see a small city land the big fish.
Now kindly give Toronto Wiggins so he can come home too.
Now kindly give Toronto Wiggins so he can come home too.
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07-11-2014, 12:09 PM
#110
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Cleveland has Lebron back.
Although the Browns will probably continue to be a doormat, they now have Manziel and all the attention he brings.
Lots for sports fans in Cleveland to look up to. Congrats peeps!
Although the Browns will probably continue to be a doormat, they now have Manziel and all the attention he brings.
Lots for sports fans in Cleveland to look up to. Congrats peeps!
and yes yummy already has contacted me about this matter.
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07-11-2014, 12:19 PM
#114
07-11-2014, 12:20 PM
#115
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FUCK YEAH! WOOOOOOOOOOT! He's back!
You will note that this Cavs fan kept his Cavs avatar here even when the team tanked, even when they got the #1 pick for an unprecedented 3 out of the last four years, and I even went to the games, even the losing ones. I believed even then, and I (and most average Cleveland fans) were not that upset with LeBron.
Now, I'm going to find some season tickets. I f-ing DESERVE some winning basketball.
P.S. His SI letter completely absolves him of the sin he made with The Decision 4 years ago in my book. What a surprisingly humble letter.
FUCK YEAH! WOOOOOOOOOOT! He's back!
You will note that this Cavs fan kept his Cavs avatar here even when the team tanked, even when they got the #1 pick for an unprecedented 3 out of the last four years, and I even went to the games, even the losing ones. I believed even then, and I (and most average Cleveland fans) were not that upset with LeBron.
Now, I'm going to find some season tickets. I f-ing DESERVE some winning basketball.
P.S. His SI letter completely absolves him of the sin he made with The Decision 4 years ago in my book. What a surprisingly humble letter.
Last edited by neuronbob; 07-11-2014 at 12:23 PM.
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07-11-2014, 12:51 PM
#117
Team Owner
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FUCK YEAH! WOOOOOOOOOOT! He's back!
You will note that this Cavs fan kept his Cavs avatar here even when the team tanked, even when they got the #1 pick for an unprecedented 3 out of the last four years, and I even went to the games, even the losing ones. I believed even then, and I (and most average Cleveland fans) were not that upset with LeBron.
Now, I'm going to find some season tickets. I f-ing DESERVE some winning basketball.
P.S. His SI letter completely absolves him of the sin he made with The Decision 4 years ago in my book. What a surprisingly humble letter.
FUCK YEAH! WOOOOOOOOOOT! He's back!
You will note that this Cavs fan kept his Cavs avatar here even when the team tanked, even when they got the #1 pick for an unprecedented 3 out of the last four years, and I even went to the games, even the losing ones. I believed even then, and I (and most average Cleveland fans) were not that upset with LeBron.
Now, I'm going to find some season tickets. I f-ing DESERVE some winning basketball.
P.S. His SI letter completely absolves him of the sin he made with The Decision 4 years ago in my book. What a surprisingly humble letter.
JK 
07-11-2014, 12:54 PM
#118
Good for Lebron he learned some valuable lessons over the last 4 years I too like the way he handled this no one should be mad at him now. I feel for D-Wade because I he may not be able to make the same kind of money on his new contract. One domino has fallen lets see where the rest will.
07-11-2014, 12:57 PM
#119
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07-11-2014, 01:00 PM
#120
Itz JDM y0!
Originally Posted by Lebron James
When I left Cleveland, I was on a mission. I was seeking championships, and we won two. But Miami already knew that feeling. Our city hasn’t had that feeling in a long, long, long time. My goal is still to win as many titles as possible, no question. But what’s most important for me is bringing one trophy back to Northeast Ohio.
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