NBA: 2012 Off-Season News and Discussion Thread
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Well, he travelled for starters...
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I'm Down Right Fierce!
^ Hmm. You pretty much named the favorites.
If I HAD to pick a dark horse from the East: Philly.... and the Knicks look good on paper and Boston always looks good... old as hell, but good.
If I HAD to pick a dark horse from the East: Philly.... and the Knicks look good on paper and Boston always looks good... old as hell, but good.
#328
Was that Antonio Harvey?
Celtics and Spurs are always the old guys at the gym that are still good.
Denver's gonna be dangerous, but maybe not a contender. Clippers and Griz look interesting though.
I honestly think the East will have more competition than the west though, but they'll eventually get eaten alive like baby seals on shark week, by the Miami Heat.
One things for sure though....I can't wait for the season to start.
Celtics and Spurs are always the old guys at the gym that are still good.
Denver's gonna be dangerous, but maybe not a contender. Clippers and Griz look interesting though.
I honestly think the East will have more competition than the west though, but they'll eventually get eaten alive like baby seals on shark week, by the Miami Heat.
One things for sure though....I can't wait for the season to start.
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Was that Antonio Harvey?
Celtics and Spurs are always the old guys at the gym that are still good.
Denver's gonna be dangerous, but maybe not a contender. Clippers and Griz look interesting though.
I honestly think the East will have more competition than the west though, but they'll eventually get eaten alive like baby seals on shark week, by the Miami Heat.
One things for sure though....I can't wait for the season to start.
Celtics and Spurs are always the old guys at the gym that are still good.
Denver's gonna be dangerous, but maybe not a contender. Clippers and Griz look interesting though.
I honestly think the East will have more competition than the west though, but they'll eventually get eaten alive like baby seals on shark week, by the Miami Heat.
One things for sure though....I can't wait for the season to start.
i thought #40 was Elden Campbell.
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Elden wore 41, unless he forgot his jersey or put on Harvey's by accident, which I wouldn't put past him.
No hope for the Bulls Yum? I heard Scal's gonna be an assistant coach now?
No hope for the Bulls Yum? I heard Scal's gonna be an assistant coach now?
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They'll make the playoffs...but, not as a Top 2 seed.
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LeBugs LeBunny?
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I went to books n books @ museum of arts in ft laudy on Friday. Shit was 4 blocks down from what I heard. I have a photo of his signature but didn't want to post it because of people would love to forge that.
#340
Pretty cool pare. What was he like?
#342
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So I heard this morning on ESPN Radio that Matt Barnes is going to be a Clipper?
Like WTF... they have a gazillion people on their bench.
And I hope the Lakers do get Barbosa, cause Blake is a below avg pg.
Like WTF... they have a gazillion people on their bench.
And I hope the Lakers do get Barbosa, cause Blake is a below avg pg.
#343
The Clips have a TON of wings and guards now (Butler, Crawford, Hill, Billups, Bledsoe). Alot of quality there. I still think they need some bodies inside though. I kinda doubt Matt will get a ton of playing time.
I'm not sure Barbosa really wants to join the Lakers...as per usual, throwing the Lakers name in there is probably a bargaining move. Lakers could only sign him for the minimum, but he had a good showing in the Olympics, so I don't think he signs for that.
I'm not sure Barbosa really wants to join the Lakers...as per usual, throwing the Lakers name in there is probably a bargaining move. Lakers could only sign him for the minimum, but he had a good showing in the Olympics, so I don't think he signs for that.
#345
I think it was either used or is being kept in reserve...not sure. From what I understand though, unless they are only going to offer minimum to whomever they get.
#349
Drifting
Willie Green + Travis Leslie too. They are at a full 15 roster though, and walking a tight rope on the tax line, so I don't expect to hear much from the clippers until maybe the deadline. I guess they do have 9 guys in the back court (CP, Bled, Billups, Crawford, Willie Green, Leslie, Caron, Grant, and Barnes) which leave each spot like 3 deep. Definitely more balanced than last year, but yea the quality of players in the front court is pretty slim. They are really banking on odom being a good player again, but at least they're not counting on Brian Cook becoming a good player like they were going into last season.
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Aww KG has his feelings hurt.
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/...len-miami-heat
http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/...len-miami-heat
Kevin Garnett not talking to Ray Allen
Updated: September 28, 2012, 5:43 PM ET
By Chris Forsberg | ESPNBoston.com
WALTHAM, Mass. -- Boston Celtics center Kevin Garnett said he has not communicated with Ray Allen since the veteran guard signed with the rival Miami Heat this offseason -- and Garnett stressed it is his choice.
"I don't have Ray's number anymore," Garnett said at the Celtics' media day Friday. "I'm not trying to communicate. I'm just being honest with everybody in here. ... It's just what it is.
Pressed on why he cut off contact with Allen, Garnett added, "I choose not to. I choose -- that's a choice I personally made. I told you all, I'm very close to Ray. I know his family. I wish nothing but the best for him and his family. I'm just making a choice on my own. That's all."
Garnett, who signed a three-year, $36 million contract extension this offseason, suggested he was not upset with Allen's decision to leave the Celtics, but clearly wasn't thrilled with it after Boston reassembled its core after losing to Miami in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals.
"When a guy makes a decision based on him and his family, you can't ever get upset at that," Garnett said. "My personal feeling, I won't put into it. The only thing I'll say is I wish Ray the best. That's where it's at."
Paul Pierce, who along with Allen and Garnett made up the Celtics' Big Three, was surprised Allen left for Miami.
"I thought we would finish our careers together, me, Kevin, and Ray," Pierce said Friday. "It was very surprising, him going to Miami. But, you know Ray. He's a grown-up. He has to make a decision that he feels is best for his family, for himself. I wish he could have went to the Clippers if he was going anywhere. But he went to our Eastern Conference rivals. But as you all know, Ray likes to golf. Maybe that factored into his reasoning. Maybe he didn't like the golfing in Boston in the winter. Who knows?"
Garnett said he's more concerned about the guys on the Celtics' roster, not the ones off it.
"I'm focusing on (Jason Terry) and Courtney Lee, the new guys that are here," Garnett said. "I wasn't going to come here and answer a bunch of Ray Allen questions, I was going to answer one time and then focus on what's right here in this gym, what's present. And that's where I'm at."
Informed of coach Doc Rivers' suggestion that he wants the Celtics to beat the Heat, Garnett said he wouldn't focus on one team.
"It's not just the Heat, but everybody," Garnett said. "The goal here is to win (a championship). And whoever is in the way of that is in the way. If it's not Miami, if it's not whoever, it's the whole league. Obviously (the Heat) won it and they are the defending champions. I respect that. Along that road to the goal, whoever is in the way is in the way. It's not just one particular team."
Pierce said Garnett had told him he was toying with the idea of retirement last season, but Garnett laughed it off, saying he never used the word "retire" with Pierce. Garnett did give thought to hanging up his high-tops after last season.
"I did give it some real thought," Garnett said. "With free agency coming up, I didn't want to think about another team or anything like that. My retirement, obviously, would have been a personal decision, based on family and whatever reasons I have. My No. 1 reason for coming back, obviously, was Doc. Doc being here is huge; I enjoy playing for him. The guys, the city, the fans here are by far the best fans that I've ever been a part of.
"All that stuck with me, along with family motivation and other things of that such, and just still being able (to compete), too. You want to be in position to still contribute, to still give something. I don't know how (Celtics president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) talked me into three years, but I'm enjoying my journey here. I know that sounds lame and kinda cheesy, but coming here and preparing, doing what I love, all those put together, is why I'm here."
Updated: September 28, 2012, 5:43 PM ET
By Chris Forsberg | ESPNBoston.com
WALTHAM, Mass. -- Boston Celtics center Kevin Garnett said he has not communicated with Ray Allen since the veteran guard signed with the rival Miami Heat this offseason -- and Garnett stressed it is his choice.
"I don't have Ray's number anymore," Garnett said at the Celtics' media day Friday. "I'm not trying to communicate. I'm just being honest with everybody in here. ... It's just what it is.
Pressed on why he cut off contact with Allen, Garnett added, "I choose not to. I choose -- that's a choice I personally made. I told you all, I'm very close to Ray. I know his family. I wish nothing but the best for him and his family. I'm just making a choice on my own. That's all."
Garnett, who signed a three-year, $36 million contract extension this offseason, suggested he was not upset with Allen's decision to leave the Celtics, but clearly wasn't thrilled with it after Boston reassembled its core after losing to Miami in Game 7 of the Eastern Conference finals.
"When a guy makes a decision based on him and his family, you can't ever get upset at that," Garnett said. "My personal feeling, I won't put into it. The only thing I'll say is I wish Ray the best. That's where it's at."
Paul Pierce, who along with Allen and Garnett made up the Celtics' Big Three, was surprised Allen left for Miami.
"I thought we would finish our careers together, me, Kevin, and Ray," Pierce said Friday. "It was very surprising, him going to Miami. But, you know Ray. He's a grown-up. He has to make a decision that he feels is best for his family, for himself. I wish he could have went to the Clippers if he was going anywhere. But he went to our Eastern Conference rivals. But as you all know, Ray likes to golf. Maybe that factored into his reasoning. Maybe he didn't like the golfing in Boston in the winter. Who knows?"
Garnett said he's more concerned about the guys on the Celtics' roster, not the ones off it.
"I'm focusing on (Jason Terry) and Courtney Lee, the new guys that are here," Garnett said. "I wasn't going to come here and answer a bunch of Ray Allen questions, I was going to answer one time and then focus on what's right here in this gym, what's present. And that's where I'm at."
Informed of coach Doc Rivers' suggestion that he wants the Celtics to beat the Heat, Garnett said he wouldn't focus on one team.
"It's not just the Heat, but everybody," Garnett said. "The goal here is to win (a championship). And whoever is in the way of that is in the way. If it's not Miami, if it's not whoever, it's the whole league. Obviously (the Heat) won it and they are the defending champions. I respect that. Along that road to the goal, whoever is in the way is in the way. It's not just one particular team."
Pierce said Garnett had told him he was toying with the idea of retirement last season, but Garnett laughed it off, saying he never used the word "retire" with Pierce. Garnett did give thought to hanging up his high-tops after last season.
"I did give it some real thought," Garnett said. "With free agency coming up, I didn't want to think about another team or anything like that. My retirement, obviously, would have been a personal decision, based on family and whatever reasons I have. My No. 1 reason for coming back, obviously, was Doc. Doc being here is huge; I enjoy playing for him. The guys, the city, the fans here are by far the best fans that I've ever been a part of.
"All that stuck with me, along with family motivation and other things of that such, and just still being able (to compete), too. You want to be in position to still contribute, to still give something. I don't know how (Celtics president of basketball operations) Danny (Ainge) talked me into three years, but I'm enjoying my journey here. I know that sounds lame and kinda cheesy, but coming here and preparing, doing what I love, all those put together, is why I'm here."
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The LeHeat win this year's Title yet?
#354
Bought tickets to see Houston @ Dallas here next month. It's pre-season game though, so I'm not expecting Dirk, Lin, or the others to be playing big numbers, but it should still be enjoyable.
#355
Everyone agree with the ESPN's NBA rankings?
I think they have it pretty right, give or take.
But a player's ranking doesn't really tell you anything past stats, IMO. It isn't tennis, or golf....its a team sport.
Originally Posted by ESPN
1 Lebron
2 Durant
3 Dwight
4 CP3
5 Rose
6 Kobe
7 K Love
8 Wade
9 Westbrook
10 D Will
2 Durant
3 Dwight
4 CP3
5 Rose
6 Kobe
7 K Love
8 Wade
9 Westbrook
10 D Will
But a player's ranking doesn't really tell you anything past stats, IMO. It isn't tennis, or golf....its a team sport.
#356
I think Lin will play, IMO. He's been out for awhile, so he's probably itching, and being new, he probably wants more reps with his new teammates and for his coach Rick Adelman.
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Still on that #NoTimeforSleep bandwagon?
Nice take good pics.
Of course Kobe-fanatics are going to hate that D-rose is higher than Kobe, but other than that yea i can agree with that.
I wonder with Adelman can he can work in his system, if not do the rockets try to get D'Antoni?
I wonder with Adelman can he can work in his system, if not do the rockets try to get D'Antoni?
#360
Agreed on Rose and K Love. If he wasn't injured, he's my #3 for sure (and probably the best pound for pound player in the NBA). But because he's injured, I think he's rated a tad high. Kobe's at 5 for me....he can't carry an offense by himself anymore, but he's still Kobe.
By the same token as DRose, I think Dwight is too high as well since he was injured when it counted (end of season and playoffs).
By the same token as DRose, I think Dwight is too high as well since he was injured when it counted (end of season and playoffs).