View Poll Results: Who will win the NBA Championship?
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NBA: 2009 Playoffs Thread
#1164
can't blame on KB, if you are not right up in his face, you won't get elbow, those are accident, not intentional and it happen all the time in NBA whether you agree or not. KB plays clean, no dirty, so don't hate.
#1165
Bows were being thrown all game. Howard's all bows to the chest, and midsection of Pau, Bynum, etc.
Face it, its the finals. They finally let them play in the second half. Put it this way, if it had been Rondo that got 'bowed, Perk or Big Baby would have made sure Kobe felt it next time. Welcome to the finals Jameer....Alston should be playing anyways.
Face it, its the finals. They finally let them play in the second half. Put it this way, if it had been Rondo that got 'bowed, Perk or Big Baby would have made sure Kobe felt it next time. Welcome to the finals Jameer....Alston should be playing anyways.
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#1167
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#1168
What Would Don Draper Do?
#1169
^^LOL.
Bows are thrown the whole game. The ones you see always depend on what team's glasses you're wearing.
Bows are thrown the whole game. The ones you see always depend on what team's glasses you're wearing.
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#1171
I shoot people
elbow are common in Muay Thai too
#1172
Bows are bad, body or head, accidental or not. A bow to Jameer's head is a bow to Howard's midsection, and really, the offensive player is allowed a reasonable area of movement. It isn't Kobe's fault that Jameer ran at him, and that well, he's short.
I think you play within the limits of what they're giving you (and they weren't calling anything).
I'm also of the opinion that the Magic's biggest mistake was letting Nelson play in that fourth, to make those plays and those decisions. Jameer writhing around after the play was REALLY stupid, and yes, I've had my nose broken twice and have had a couple of black eyes from bows, that I've played through. IMO, Rafer would have been much more ready to make better decisions, in that instance and at the end of regulation (foul Fisher when he crossed half court). Jameer should have never been put in that position.
#1173
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i love stan van gundy, i think his candidness is great when other coaches in all sports just sideskirt pretty much everything on every topic. wtf is he doing playing jameer though?? i feel like the lakes pulled this one out of their ass and thought the magic had the game the whole way. it's just blown oppurtunities showing the inexperience of the magic.
#1174
because that dude nelson too short thus that where his face got hit. imagine if you put kb, ariza, walton on howard, they would get face elbow too. use common sense people
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Anyone notice the guy waiving the USSR & American flags behind the Laker bench? What was that all about?
Anyway, all Dwight Howard had to do was make one of two free throws and he blew it. I hate to say it... but it's over for Orlando... especially with Van Gundy at the helm.
Oh, and I do not think Pietrus. He's pretty important to Orlando and with them having their backs against the wall, I can't see the NBA sitting him now...
Anyway, all Dwight Howard had to do was make one of two free throws and he blew it. I hate to say it... but it's over for Orlando... especially with Van Gundy at the helm.
Oh, and I do not think Pietrus. He's pretty important to Orlando and with them having their backs against the wall, I can't see the NBA sitting him now...
#1177
What Would Don Draper Do?
i think orlando will win game 5, and LA will wrap it up at home.
and i bet kobe will hug the championship trophy while he's crying and his dad is consoling him.
and i bet kobe will hug the championship trophy while he's crying and his dad is consoling him.
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#1179
Do you even play basketball? If youre gonna play D that close, youre gonna get hit. Thats why players wear mouthpieces. I have been a recepient to a few of those elbows to the face in my league games. Thats the risk of playing D that close. People who think that thats an offensive foul is fukin retarded. Nelson straight ran into Kobe's elbow. Dont even compare it to Pietrus' dirty foul. He didnt even try to go for the ball. Go Tragic!<!-- / message -->
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#1181
did anyone else find it ironic that 2 euros got into it at the end of the game (Pau and Pietrus). I snickered a little at 2 euro guys getting tough.
#1183
Suzuka Master
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#1185
^^good. I don't think it was right what he did, but I've seen worse than that.
#1186
What Would Don Draper Do?
Do you even play basketball? If youre gonna play D that close, youre gonna get hit. Thats why players wear mouthpieces. I have been a recepient to a few of those elbows to the face in my league games. Thats the risk of playing D that close. People who think that thats an offensive foul is fukin retarded. Nelson straight ran into Kobe's elbow. Dont even compare it to Pietrus' dirty foul. He didnt even try to go for the ball. Go Tragic!<!-- / message -->
yes some elbows are accidental and happens as a result of what you've mentioned: close D, accidental contact, etc. it happens.
but don't be so naive. competitive players, kobe included, will do what they can to gain an advantage, whether it's intentional or not and whether it's called or not.
what i'm trying to say is, there's a difference between accidental contact and deliberate elbows, which kobe has done. hell, even "good guys" like bruce bowen throw cheapshots.
but i'm not going to debate the nelson call because i really don't remember the replays. all i'm saying is, don't be so naive and think that all elbows thrown are accidental.
the ONLY way that could be topped was if it was morrison vs. redick.
so if jones wasn't even gonna be suspended for that, no way air france would and should. then again, the nba's all
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they shot themselves in the foot and deserved to lose.
i assume you're a long time bball fan so we've all seen much worse in the 80s and 90s. the rules now are for pansies.
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Victory favors the aggressor, not the ones complaining about rules or calls.
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i've been playing ball whether it's pickup or organized since like 2nd grade.
yes some elbows are accidental and happens as a result of what you've mentioned: close D, accidental contact, etc. it happens.
but don't be so naive. competitive players, kobe included, will do what they can to gain an advantage, whether it's intentional or not and whether it's called or not.
what i'm trying to say is, there's a difference between accidental contact and deliberate elbows, which kobe has done. hell, even "good guys" like bruce bowen throw cheapshots.
but i'm not going to debate the nelson call because i really don't remember the replays. all i'm saying is, don't be so naive and think that all elbows thrown are accidental.
yes some elbows are accidental and happens as a result of what you've mentioned: close D, accidental contact, etc. it happens.
but don't be so naive. competitive players, kobe included, will do what they can to gain an advantage, whether it's intentional or not and whether it's called or not.
what i'm trying to say is, there's a difference between accidental contact and deliberate elbows, which kobe has done. hell, even "good guys" like bruce bowen throw cheapshots.
but i'm not going to debate the nelson call because i really don't remember the replays. all i'm saying is, don't be so naive and think that all elbows thrown are accidental.
So who's down for a an Acurazine meet at the Victory Parade?
#1189
hell, even "good guys" like bruce bowen throw cheapshots.
#1191
That was crazy. When Bynum, Odom, and Gasol had 2 fouls each in the 2nd, they had Farmar, Sasha, Walton, Powell and Mbenga in at some point. Not sure if all were in together, but at least 4 of them were in together at one time with a starter.
#1192
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Orlando by 4?
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#1193
That was crazy. When Bynum, Odom, and Gasol had 2 fouls each in the 2nd, they had Farmar, Sasha, Walton, Powell and Mbenga in at some point. Not sure if all were in together, but at least 4 of them were in together at one time with a starter.
bowen does have a reputation as being a dirty player, but when i said "good guy," i meant off the court.
#1194
I shoot people
while yeah... the Lakers might lose tomorrow so they can wrap it up at home... I can see them taking care of business tomorrow.. especially with Kobe... He wants this sooooooooooooooo bad, probably doesn't care if it's at home or in Orlando. It's to make up for last year, and also to stuff it down Shaq's throat.
#1195
Safety Car
Kobe elbowed the shit out of Mike Bibby during a playoff game during the LA-SAC rivalry and the rets didn't call shit! I think that was the game that piece of shit Tim Donahe was officiating.
#1196
Safety Car
Lebron & Shaq together in Cleveland??
The ESPN sports ticker just said the Cavs are in trade talks with the Suns for Shaq.
#1199
I shoot people
yeah, for those of you that just voted for the Lakers in the last 2 days, you're bunch of pansies
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